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Old 03-02-2019, 10:27 PM   #1
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Red face Onion agencies

I'm new so sorry if the questions seem repetitive but I did not find anything about that.


First, are there any onion hobbyist site or within the I2P network?



Also, are there any privacy aware agency or with reputation of security?

For example, do they log? what encryption they use? who are them and where their server is located ?
do their third party partner respect their privacy measures?
how much PII they require and what measures they have against tracking/fingerprinting?
etc etc).

It is safe for both hobbyist and providers?

Lastly, how can I know my information will not be compromised if/when I give my PII to them?
In general, how and why you trust them?

Not really trying to make a argument/distrusting them just genuinely curious about my options.

Thank you
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Old 03-03-2019, 03:24 PM   #2
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What is an 'Onion agency'?
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Old 03-03-2019, 03:29 PM   #3
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What is an 'Onion agency'?
Yeah, I was scratching my head on that one too.

I suspect it has something to do with government agencies, but then again what do I know?
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Old 03-03-2019, 06:09 PM   #4
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https://www.vidaliaonions.com/history/


I could be wrong but ?
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Old 03-04-2019, 01:30 AM   #5
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I was under the impression that TOR was common sense here since normally you want to hide the hobby of LE, spouses, coworkers, family members, etc. Onions are basically websites only accessible through the tor browser. Itself a anonymity communication network that helps protect your privacy. https://www.torproject.org/
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Old 03-04-2019, 02:29 AM   #6
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Part of the issue is the target client for most agencies is not a guy who is using the TOR browser or onion sites. They are 50-65 executives/professionals who still struggle with their gmail account.

I know in Silicon Valley there are bunches of escorts there who cater to Tech Execs and I am certain there are "onion agencies" there and New York. But random ones in randoms cities...I doubt it.
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Old 03-04-2019, 09:08 AM   #7
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B3 is correct about folks, an amazingly large amount, that barely know how to turn a computer on.
When I was back on my old turf last summer I was highly entertained when a stripper showed a guy how an atm worked. Apparently, after he got divorced, his rw work admin just took care of everything.
The gal wasn't just using his card, he was right there, and she was explaining how bank networks worked and all that.
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Several of my exbfs do not even own atm or debit cards. In Houston, it is still very common to go to the bank once a week and get a stack of 100s and to have that and a credit card.
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I’m sure onion “agencies” exist but I wouldn’t want to be associated with it.

Edit: If I were a tech executive, I’d probably have a well paid staff member to procure the ladies but otherwise, it’d be VPNs, burner accounts, secured chat programs like Ricochet, and pay in Monero. Probably not going to find any agency that secured unless you’re willing to fork over big money.
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I'd be worried they were peddling a lot more than pussy...
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I’m sure onion “agencies” exist but I wouldn’t want to be associated with it.

Edit: If I were a tech executive, I’d probably have a well paid staff member to procure the ladies but otherwise, it’d be VPNs, burner accounts, secured chat programs like Ricochet, and pay in Monero. Probably not going to find any agency that secured unless you’re willing to fork over big money.
You mean multiple VPNs nested with VMs workstations and TOR (And transparent proxies, like Squid), right?. Kovri if you are privacy paranoid. But that's on your side. The moment you give your PII (name and address for ex) to them for screening, you have absolutely no way of knowing what they're going to do with it. I saw some of these sites don't even use basic SSL encryption(!) Sure, no eavesdropping. But can you trust them? that's the point. how can I know my information will not be compromised once they get it?
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Old 03-04-2019, 08:12 PM   #12
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I don't mean this to be rude, but you are probably in the wrong "hobby."

Some amount of knowledge of personal info on both sides is precisely what keeps people safer.

Do you really want someone coming to you or going to her where there is absolutely no information exchanged and total anonymity? That scares the fuck out of me on either side. That's how people end up dead and vanished.

And to add on that these are people engaging in God knows what on the dark web...oh hell no.
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Old 03-05-2019, 02:16 AM   #14
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Sounds pretty sketchy to me!
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Old 03-05-2019, 10:54 AM   #15
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A few solutions:

1)A is a independent provider. Both agree to meet using ricochet or any instant chat with OTR.

Hobbyist gives his info - provider A screen him.

Assuming the websites(using the best TLS implementations up to date) she uses for screening is secure - or at least, seems to respect your privacy.
Both win

Problem: Screening website logs you.
Also if LE subpoenaed for the info of 1 criminal/predator will also leak the information of all other johns.

MITM attacks, or worse like sharing your info with third parties(marketers and data miners).

Why the questions on my first post.

2) Agency B is found on TOR or I2P network. Both on clearnet and darknet agrees on B trustworthiness.

Screening inside TOR/I2P, payment through Monero or Kovri.

Meeting takes places on public locations for safety first. Both win.

Problem: possible scammer agency. That's a price I'm more willing to take than info leaks.

EDIT: The picture media portraits of Darknet is pretty much baloney.
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