Older Guy with ld

[farmer111]

Just thought someone might give an old man some insight on how to have some fun without disappointing a lady provider.
Viagra no longer works so oral is now my thing. Does most of the providers experience this or is it just me who is ashamed to admit it. Should I let the lady know in advance of my limitation? I am up near the Ok border so don't have much activity here. Pm if you like. What u think?

[Grace Preston]

Some of my favorite gents haven't had an erection since the Reagan administration. There is plenty of fun to be had without a ride on the baloney pony.

I would make it known up front-- because some ladies may not be on the same wavelength.. but you should have no trouble finding yourself some fun!!

[alaine]

Come to DALLAS...Happy to take care of you.

Alaine/ED expert

[ZorahMatta]

Be upfront about it to give the provider a chance to get creative so both of you can have all the great fun that sex can provide without requiring an erect penis

[suiram77]

Originally Posted by farmer111

Just thought someone might give an old man some insight on how to have some fun without disappointing a lady provider.
Viagra no longer works so oral is now my thing. Does most of the providers experience this or is it just me who is ashamed to admit it. Should I let the lady know in advance of my limitation? I am up near the Ok border so don't have much activity here. Pm if you like. What u think?

The code line in your post that's funny to me is DISAPPOINTING A LADY PROVIDER!!

I think it's interesting and sad that your concern will be making sure a provider is pleased sexually by you. This is the hobby buddy, so you making sure a provider cum or enjoyed the sex or not should be the last of your worries. Maybe you don't realize, but we are paying them to get us off not the other way around Mr. Farmer. If a guy is able to actually make a provider cum and it was real then ok great, but it should never be your main goal or focus to get them off.

The hobby is mainly for the hobbyist and the women are the providers that provide a service like a business. You don't go to a fast food restaurant and be concern about are you a good customer and is McDonald's happy with you right?? Lol. That's just backwards to me, and a providers donation for her time is her Big O. Think about it like this, if every provider judge all her clients based on rather if he really got her off or he was good in bed or not, and that determines if she see him again, then I can guarantee you 95 percent of the providers will be starving.

There are some women who can cum super easy and most men can get them off, but they want be the majority. This is where the IOP comes in, to make the man feel like a man and that he performed well. Some women have better IOP than others and that can determine how many clients they see on a residual basis.

There are a few guys here I'm sure that can just flat out perform and actually get most women off, and rather if it's because they are more hung, skilled or just have more experience in performing is the reason or not, I personally will never concern myself with my performance with a provider.

Speaking of myself I don't have the biggest Dick or even a big dick for that matter lol, and I'm sure I have went behind some guys that was hung that saw the same provider I saw, but I didn't go into the session saying omg I wonder what she will think and I hope my performance Is good. I don't give a fuck, sorry, but I'm not in the hobby to see who I can get off this shit is business. If there is any provider I have ever seen that didn't cum or enjoy my performance then ok sorry but I paid you for your time and that was the whole point of us meeting period.

For me it's all about her service, her skills, and enjoying her company nothing else. That is exactly what I'm paying for, once I leave I can careless what she thought or think of me in bed. It's none of my business what a person thinks of me, they can find someone who cares to listen or Better yet that's what the powder room is for hahahahah

We keep forgetting that this shit is a business a fun great one for both parties, but yet still a business.

Just my 3 cent and honest opinion good luck buddy

[Guest113018-1]

Originally Posted by farmer111

Just thought someone might give an old man some insight on how to have some fun without disappointing a lady provider.
Viagra no longer works so oral is now my thing. Does most of the providers experience this or is it just me who is ashamed to admit it. Should I let the lady know in advance of my limitation? I am up near the Ok border so don't have much activity here. Pm if you like. What u think?

As someone who also suffers from ED, not so much getting an erection as keeping it once the condom goes on. As someone who always enjoyed daty in my RW relationships, when I first started the hobby I didn't give much thought to giving oral, only receiving. A couple of providers quickly changed my mind on that. When I first started hobbying I didn't have much problems, probably from the excitement of doing something or someone new. As time went on I began having trouble keeping it up while wearing a condom. Luckily I saw a few independent ladies that didn't seem to mind my limitations. Then I found the studios where you are sometimes limited to L1 or L2 and daty is also welcome most of the time. Even now, as I have found some pills that work well enough for me to successfully engage in FS about 50% of the time sometimes I just go and enjoy the oral activities without the pressure that FS brings. While I don't really concern myself much whether they actually have the big "O" I am more concerned with the IOP. When a provider acts like she gets into the session, that's what drives me. I have in my p411 profile that I do have ED and my main goal is to enjoy all the oral pleasures they we can give each other. So yes, letting your prospective companion know up front about your limitations will aid in finding the right provider and weed out those that would rather engage in FS or not deal with ED issues.

[Xyz9999]

I have issues due to age, weight & health issues. When meeting a new provider I always set the expectation that I will want a session focused on kissing, touching, mutual oral, etc. I want to give her the chance to tell me that she will like or not like that kind of session. So far I've been lucky enough to only have one bad date where the provider said she would but didn't. Do your research, be upfront with the partner & you will be fine.

[suiram77]

Originally Posted by golforfish

As someone who also suffers from ED, not so much getting an erection as keeping it once the condom goes on. As someone who always enjoyed daty in my RW relationships, when I first started the hobby I didn't give much thought to giving oral, only receiving. A couple of providers quickly changed my mind on that. When I first started hobbying I didn't have much problems, probably from the excitement of doing something or someone new. As time went on I began having trouble keeping it up while wearing a condom. Luckily I saw a few independent ladies that didn't seem to mind my limitations. Then I found the studios where you are sometimes limited to L1 or L2 and daty is also welcome most of the time. Even now, as I have found some pills that work well enough for me to successfully engage in FS about 50% of the time sometimes I just go and enjoy the oral activities without the pressure that FS brings. While I don't really concern myself much whether they actually have the big "O" I am more concerned with the IOP. When a provider acts like she gets into the session, that's what drives me. I have in my p411 profile that I do have ED and my main goal is to enjoy all the oral pleasures they we can give each other. So yes, letting your prospective companion know up front about your limitations will aid in finding the right provider and weed out those that would rather engage in FS or not deal with ED issues.

I feel what you saying golforfish and you should always make sure you find the right provider for you and yes the IOP has to be there for most men. It's always good to let them know if Its something you rather focus on in a session. Rather you have a flat tire or not, a big D or not, can perform well or not, I say just take all that pressure off yourself and go relax and enjoy her company and "HER" services.

A great provider that's worth her salt can and will make any man feel great regardless of his limitations, because again they are here to provide a service for you and to make sure you leave happy, which is the whole point of the business arrangement. I say every guy should free their minds of what will she think, or how will They perform, and If they will last in bed or not, and just go enjoy yourself it's all for you/us, it's why we pay.

[~Ze~]

Originally Posted by suiram77

The code line in your post that's funny to me is DISAPPOINTING A LADY PROVIDER!!

I think it's interesting and sad that your concern will be making sure a provider is pleased sexually by you. This is the hobby buddy, so you making sure a provider cum or enjoyed the sex or not should be the last of your worries. Maybe you don't realize, but we are paying them to get us off not the other way around Mr. Farmer. If a guy is able to actually make a provider cum and it was real then ok great, but it should never be your main goal or focus to get them off.

Just because your motive in the hobby is to use women here like a product does NOT mean that is what every other man here wants out of their time with a lady.

Originally Posted by suiram77

The hobby is mainly for the hobbyist and the women are the providers that provide a service like a business. You don't go to a fast food restaurant and be concern about are you a good customer and is McDonald's happy with you right?? Lol. That's just backwards to me, and a providers donation for her time is her Big O.

But yet you DO have it ingrained in you to be a pleasant customer, even at Mc Donalds. Do you waltz in and kick your shoes off and put them up on the table? Do you leave trash laying around and not clean up after yourself? I mean, you seem like the type that might, but gawd I hope not. Mc Donalds might not have to "be happy" with me, but I bet they will kick me the fuck out if I misbehave.

Originally Posted by suiram77

Think about it like this, if every provider judge all her clients based on rather if he really got her off or he was good in bed or not, and that determines if she see him again, then I can guarantee you 95 percent of the providers will be starving.

Reputation and kindness get you in my door, but if your ass ever wants to make it a second round in the repeat visit terms, part of my standards are that we get along physically. Hell, I don't think I even fully relax til at least the 3rd time with a fella. Yeah, getting me off with your tongue is almost always a requirement in my book. Not always, but it DOES count for me. Wanna know what I cooked for dinner? Betcha my ass ain't starving.

Originally Posted by suiram77

There are some women who can cum super easy and most men can get them off, but they want be the majority. This is where the IOP comes in, to make the man feel like a man and that he performed well. Some women have better IOP than others and that can determine how many clients they see on a residual basis.

If you think IOP will get a lady much farther than 2 or three dates with a guy, buddy, you are fooling yourself. It MAY work fine once or twice, but once you get to the REAL intimacy of this, it is totally impossibru to fake.

Originally Posted by suiram77

There are a few guys here I'm sure that can just flat out perform and actually get most women off, and rather if it's because they are more hung, skilled or just have more experience in performing is the reason or not, I personally will never concern myself with my performance with a provider.

Originally Posted by suiram77

Speaking of myself I don't have the biggest Dick or even a big dick for that matter lol, and I'm sure I have went behind some guys that was hung that saw the same provider I saw, but I didn't go into the session saying omg I wonder what she will think and I hope my performance Is good. I don't give a fuck, sorry, but I'm not in the hobby to see who I can get off this shit is business. If there is any provider I have ever seen that didn't cum or enjoy my performance then ok sorry but I paid you for your time and that was the whole point of us meeting period.

I don't even... this makes me want to vomit.

Originally Posted by suiram77

For me it's all about her service, her skills, and enjoying her company nothing else. That is exactly what I'm paying for, once I leave I can careless what she thought or think of me in bed. It's none of my business what a person thinks of me, they can find someone who cares to listen or Better yet that's what the powder room is for hahahahah

Continue on with trating a women like a product... -_-

Originally Posted by suiram77

We keep forgetting that this shit is a business a fun great one for both parties, but yet still a business.

Just my 3 cent and honest opinion good luck buddy

Yeah, your opinion is skewed by your narrow way of thinking. Perhaps if you pulled the baseball bat our of your ass you might actually start to enjoy your time here.



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And in other news-

I personally feel that if a person is gentle and honest about their physical limitations, whatever they may be, they can find ways to enjoy themselves outside of the "norm". Clearing your mind of expectations by being upfront, honest and finding a provider that understands and is compassionate is a MAJOR part of it.


P.S.S. - this is the shit that happens when you fuckers lemme have a double gin and tonic. -_-

[FunInDFW]

Outta nowhere a wild



appears!

[suiram77]

Originally Posted by ~Ze~

Just because your motive in the hobby is to use women here like a product does NOT mean that is what every other man here wants out of their time with a lady.




But yet you DO have it ingrained in you to be a pleasant customer, even at Mc Donalds. Do you waltz in and kick your shoes off and put them up on the table? Do you leave trash laying around and not clean up after yourself? I mean, you seem like the type that might, but gawd I hope not. Mc Donalds might not have to "be happy" with me, but I bet they will kick me the fuck out if I misbehave.





Reputation and kindness get you in my door, but if your ass ever wants to make it a second round in the repeat visit terms, part of my standards are that we get along physically. Hell, I don't think I even fully relax til at least the 3rd time with a fella. Yeah, getting me off with your tongue is almost always a requirement in my book. Not always, but it DOES count for me. Wanna know what I cooked for dinner? Betcha my ass ain't starving.





If you think IOP will get a lady much farther than 2 or three dates with a guy, buddy, you are fooling yourself. It MAY work fine once or twice, but once you get to the REAL intimacy of this, it is totally impossibru to fake.







I don't even... this makes me want to vomit.





Continue on with trating a women like a product... -_-





Yeah, your opinion is skewed by your narrow way of thinking. Perhaps if you pulled the baseball bat our of your ass you might actually start to enjoy your time here.



-------------------------

And in other news-

I personally feel that if a person is gentle and honest about their physical limitations, whatever they may be, they can find ways to enjoy themselves outside of the "norm". Clearing your mind of expectations by being upfront, honest and finding a provider that understands and is compassionate is a MAJOR part of it.


P.S.S. - this is the shit that happens when you fuckers lemme have a double gin and tonic. -_-

I was going to comment until I saw the handle Ms Bat Shit Crazy

Child please Bye Lucy!!!!!! Duces

[2short@desky]

Originally Posted by farmer111

Just thought someone might give an old man some insight on how to have some fun without disappointing a lady provider.
Viagra no longer works so oral is now my thing. Does most of the providers experience this or is it just me who is ashamed to admit it. Should I let the lady know in advance of my limitation? I am up near the Ok border so don't have much activity here. Pm if you like. What u think?

I can relate to your post with the utmost empathy. I've noticed some changes in myself, evolving from being able to have instant wood just gazing at a very nice revealing rack in a grocery store to not being able to do anything whatsoever on DEMAND. Now, I enjoy the company more than ever, if the IOP is good, the convo is good, and the Lady is subtle and gentle....meaning she acts like the Lady she is and approaches the entire meeting in a laid back emotional engagement more than a sex act, Little Boy comes around, not to the same level as my youth obviously, or the same staying power....and he hates condoms, but he does make himself known. So the operative word here for me and maybe you is DEMAND. If you put yourself in a situation where DEMAND of having a woody is a high priority, it's never going to happen. You and I may be old school, as I think of any woman, especially one that goes through the process of looking appealing to me and willing to lay next to me regardless of the reason (money) deserves my utmost respect. SHE is a LADY, and my gentleman manners prevail.

We can't fuck everything that walks anymore, and don't even care to. So when I consider my own attributes and desires, I came to realize that my selection process had to be finely tuned to achieve a satisfactory outcome. Satisfactory having a very broad brush. The emotional engagement means a lot, and ironically, it does also to the ladies from what I have found. It seems to me that they wish to have a higher value than being labeled as a hooker or prostitute...the ones I've been with anyway...even though it's known that it's simply a monetary transaction. So what happens is a shift in expectations from the Lady as her appreciation for your respect of her matures somewhat, she starts to think that maybe this meeting isn't all about what's between her legs...that's secondary. Works for me and her. To do this though, I came to realize that I had to screen ladies that were more my age, meaning MILFS with a few exceptions, at least an hour meeting to enable emotional connect, and highly reviewed IOP. Most of the ladies I see now are the same age as my kids...late 30's and early 40's, and all of them have been amazingly patient, compassionate, and very pleasurable in many more ways than one. I salute them all, wonderful gals.

[Hercules]

"Ride on the baloney pony"?

[FireKitten]

Smdh about some of this.

It is good to let the lady know if it's a problem. The ladies here ARE about trying to please the man. If the anticipated event is that eventually she will get him off, or rather quickly, depending on the lady, that is a disappointment to not have that happen, or even planned to happen.

It's not a requirement, but a little research on both sides, can avoid some awkward meetings. Most ladies in the older range, understand and are fine with concentrating on other things, as long as she likes daty, and intimacy, especially if she's aware that's how the time will be spent.

It's not unusual. A bit of warning gives her a chance to respond, if she is not the lady for you, and be better attuned in how to spend the time together, if you agree to visit.

[Grace Preston]

Originally Posted by Hercules

"Ride on the baloney pony"?

Between everything myself and Ze had to say.. THAT's what you picked up?? :P