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Lucky LaRue · 06-17-2014, 08:26 PM

I have a question and concern. A new provider with no reviews and no verification ( IE P411 or Date Check ) No other providers to vouch for her to breakout? I have always been leery of "TOFTT". Why would a provider not be screened with P411. My experience with them was easy and painless. I had no provider vouches when I was screened and have several vouches today. Is there huge fees involved with this screening that a provider might not be able to afford when starting out? I would think this type of screening would come back to you a hundred times more.! ?

Guest052616 · 06-17-2014, 08:31 PM

i think with 411 she has to have at least 2 references from 2 hobbyist with a certain amount of okays? Something like that... ive been there for some time and dont quite remember.. but she does have to be verified....and i dont think we have fees.

Alyssa Marie · 06-17-2014, 09:12 PM

Yup, we have to be verified either through established gentlemen or if we have reviews on other sites. This is why some girls do review specials, just can bite them in the rear if the person doesn't write the review or takes a long time to write it.
We don't have any fees unless we want to buy extra points to use for various things on the site.
Were you verified through your work? That's how gents get in without a provider ref.. For us to be verified by our work we have to have some "proof."
Hopefully someone will take the dive soon and she will be able to enjoy this crazy lifestyle that we all chose to live.

Xx

Cpalmson · 06-17-2014, 10:56 PM

It cuts both ways. For guys breaking into the hobby, girls are suspect of them. These guys have to seek out newbie friendly providers. I think girls break into the hobby a little differently than do the guys. For guys, they actually seek out getting into the hobby or at least seek out a P4P arrangement. I don't think the girls seek out becoming providers-- i.e. I don't think the wake up one day and say, "hey, I want to sell my body for sex as a career choice." I think the ladies get into the hobby via the back door or the side door. Some may need the money. They know a guy who will front them a little cash for a roll in the sack. He tells her about some friends that would also help out. After being UTR, the girl may lose her inhibitions and seek becoming a "known" provider. Then there are the strippers who figure selling sex is just a step further than shaking their money maker. Also, there are those who are coerced into the lifestyle, but these girls are not the ones who become the type of providers we see on ECCIE or P411.

Now, for us guys, we need to help these unverified girls. I consider myself to be a newbie friendly client. I actually like helping new girls get started. If I see a new girl trying to get established, I will pretty much see her if she is willing to offer the services I want and/or offer a review special which for me really isn't a price discount but instead more time i.e. 2 hours for the price of 1. After all, I want plenty of time to sample her wares in order to write an in depth review

Solitaire · 06-26-2014, 01:38 AM

It takes time and patience.

Its been a few years since I was verified thru both P411 and Date-Check, so I dont remember exactly, but I know on one or both I sat in some probationary limbo for a month or two. I also had a site on the now gone Escorts.com. I built rapport with potential clients on the now gone ASPD. Eventually one guy from DC met with me and gave me a reference there, and another found me on E.com and gave me a review, which if I remember right took care of me on P411.

A clean, concise, and articulate website goes far... as a matter of fact, after being gone for 5 years, my website was the first thing I worked on, before reinstating the verification sites. And I still had to wait about a month for an appt. All the sites I was on previous are gone, as are my past reviews.

And of course she should know, absolutely NO negotiating ANYTHING by PM, email, text or phone.. EVER!

Good Luck to her!

Solitaire · 06-26-2014, 01:43 AM

Ok, I went back and re-read your original question. Sorry I misunderstood.

If the lady is new, she may not know about it.

If she is seasoned, some ladies have pulled out of P411 due to various concerns that you can search and read about.

Best is to ask the lady why she doesn't use it.

Eva Damita · 06-27-2014, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Solitaire

Ok, I went back and re-read your original question. Sorry I misunderstood.

If the lady is new, she may not know about it.

If she is seasoned, some ladies have pulled out of P411 due to various concerns that you can search and read about.

Best is to ask the lady why she doesn't use it.

Superb advice! Believe it or not, it took me to work as an exotic dancer to discover this board and that boards existed...and I provided before dancing. Great thread !

Lucky LaRue · 06-27-2014, 10:12 PM

Well good news. This Lady was able to secure a P411 account after I sent her an invite and recommendation on P411. She is happily on her way to a new career. Thank you all for the input.

Lucky LaRue · 06-27-2014, 10:42 PM

Oh yes. Alyssa Marie I totally missed your question and yes I was. My employer gave me the green light to enjoy life. LOL