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Will Kamala Harris Be Banned from the Ballot in 2024?
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Will Kamala Harris Be Banned from the Ballot in 2024?
She obviously incited insurrection. Heck, the evidence is "self-executing" under the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution - so there's no requirement for her to be tried and convicted. We just need a few states to have the balls to kick her off the ballot!
Back in 2020 while she was running for Veep, her words of incitement led to widespread violence in our major cities including Minneapolis, Portland, Seattle, and New York. Insurrectionists burned down police stations, torched businesses and federal courthouses, and even set up so-called "autonomous zones" where the duly elected authorities were stripped of power and the insurrectionists took over.
All of this occurred with the active encouragement and support of the Democratic candidate for Vice President, Kamala Harris. But hey, don't take my word for it. Here are her own words:
“They’re not going to stop. This is a movement, I’m telling you. They’re not going to stop and everyone beware, because they’re not going to stop. They’re not going to stop before Election Day in November and they’re not going to stop after Election Day. Everyone should take note of that on both levels. They’re not going to let up and they should not and we should not.”
Kamala even encouraged people to send money to a fund (the "Minnesota Freedom Fund") set up to bail out those violent insurrectionists! This helped the violent insurrectionists get out of jail quickly - so they could participate in MORE violent insurrections!
I'm confident all the lefties in this forum who advocate banning Trump from multiple state ballots (without any due process, trial or conviction) will be logically consistent and agree that Kamala Harris should face similar legal sanctions for her role in inciting violent insurrections.
"fight like hell, or your not gonna have a country, or trial by combat!"
Did she ever say she condones violence or anything like that? NO.
Did she call it anything other than a protest? NO.
Did she ask for people to take up physical arms or be violent? NO.
Did she ask or support people breaking the laws then or now? NO.
The difference between a protest- and a violent mob, or an outright riot, is pretty significant. And if you are supporting a riot, you've got a problem. I don't see that she did anything like, that but rather just said that after MANY black deaths, that she said BLM protestors should protest, but she's never said she was supportive of violence prior, in the moment, or afterwards.
Trump not only suggested that those who attended on Jan 6," Fight Like Hell", but he also said he supported those patriots afterwards, after they breached the capital, after officers were injured, after someone was shot and killed, and still up to today when MANY more officers have suffered injuries, some leading to death and disfigurement and a shitload of PTSD. The differences are more than a small difference.
They are like calling a hurricane a windy day. - while it's true, the magnitude of the situation is vastly different. And lets not forget that one is a march in a state/ states subject to state crimes if any violence broke out, vs. one that was at the US CAPITAL to stop an official proceeding- a Federal crime.
These are apples and oranges. Show us something where Kamala said, yes I support violence or the like....and I'll change my opinion.
And if there is such a post, then I would agree that she should remove herself from election.
I love it when MAGA uses the tit-for-tat doctrine. Shows a distinct lack of creativity and intelligence. Just another attempt to take the heat off their führer. Losers.
I love it when MAGA uses the tit-for-tat doctrine. Shows a distinct lack of creativity and intelligence. Just another attempt to take the heat off their führer. Losers.
I love it when the left ignores the way they are guilty of everything they accuse their opponents of doing. Shows a distinct lack of self-awareness and integrity.
"If it wasn't for DOUBLE STANDARDS, the Democrats would have no standards at all!"
Did she ask or support people breaking the laws then or now? NO.
Hmm... Kamala urged everyone to donate money to the so-called Minnesota Freedom Fund set up to bail out violent protesters. You don't generally go to jail and need to be bailed out unless you were caught breaking the law.
So the answer is YES, Kamala DID support people breaking the law.
And lets not forget that one is a march in a state/ states subject to state crimes if any violence broke out, vs. one that was at the US CAPITAL to stop an official proceeding- a Federal crime.
Hmmm... In Portland, Kamala's antifa pals set fire to the Federal Courthouse and disrupted that Court's ability to conduct business for weeks!
This thread is nothing more than people taking a looking glass at what someone said to try to warp it into something that serves their agenda. Sure lets ban Harris because she's a democrat and said something you don't like!
Literally any politician or candidate that tells you to go out and protest something, or to go out to vote, is not inciting an insurrection.
Would the same be true if someone made a poorly edited video of any previous president saying, from multiple sentences or even speeches that contain the words 'democrat' 'republican' 'all' 'kill' and 'the'? Because that sure sounds like what's going on here. People are hearing what they want to here and interpreting what she is saying how they want to interpret it.
Sure, the extremists can make sense of someone telling people to go out and protest, to exercise their first amendment right as people being told to go out and maim and kill the opposition to get what you want.. wait hold on, they actually tried to do this in J6th. . . . . but that isn't what they are saying, nor is it what they are meaning
She never promoted violence by innuendo or directly. Trump did, and so did all the people who he presented on stage. It was his show. A shit show. A diaper ridden clown shoes wearing dipshit MAGA show.
ASKING TO BAIL SOMEBODY OUT IS NOT A CRIME. It doesn't even suggest that the nature of he behavior is supported. Its asking to get those who are being held, to be able to get out- be it for continued protest, or for seeking counsel, or going to work. Lots of choices on why it's done. But KAMALA never said go out and break the law, or burn things, or do anything other than protest. If those people did break laws, it was not tied to her words. She never said anything remotely like that. Being that she is a minority herself, she at most had said getting into "good trouble"- a tribute to John Lewis and the Sit ins, or marches similar to what happened in the 60's etc. None of which is illegal, unless police request to disburse, and even then it's usually peaceful, unless the police don't like some uppity minority standing up for their constitutional rights. MAGA's don't like that- they hate it when people who are eligible to vote, do so without having to drive 100 miles or across county lines or produce 38 forms of ID including a decoder ring that shows they are member of the GOP...
HOWEVER- INCITING SOMEBODY TO VIOLENCE IS a CRIME. - inciting fights, Inciting combat, inciting the stoppage of federal processes and proceedings are crimes. And the Donnie Dumpster Fandango Dancers certainly said all those things. SEE THE DIFFERENCE?
She never promoted violence by innuendo or directly. Trump did...
That's your OPINION, eye. It's not something that has been established or proven in a court of law. It's neither obvious nor self-evident that Trump crossed the line and promoted violence. And Kamala likewise deserves to be presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Look, I've said before I think Trump's post-2020 election behavior was disgraceful. I'm not defending it. What I AM defending is the Constitutional right of every citizen to due process. You can't short-circuit this stuff merely because you hate someone and want to keep him/her off the ballot. That's removing one of the key legal guard-rails of our democracy. The end does NOT justify the means. In a few years, Trump will be gone. Will your Constitutional rights to due process be gone as well?
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But KAMALA never said go out and break the law, or burn things, or do anything other than protest...
And neither did Trump. At his Jan. 6th rally he urged his supporters to "peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard". Remember how the Democrats edited out that part of his speech during his second impeachment hearing?
Of course I see some differences between Harris' "incitement" and Trump's "incitement". Are they significant or determinative enough to warrant disparate treatment under the 14th Amendment or any other law against "insurrection"?
I say no. Either prosecute both of them - or neither of them. Consistency matters. Equal treatment under the law matters. "Justice is blind" matters. Due process matters.
Will Kamala Harris Be Banned from the Ballot in 2024?
