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Old 01-22-2024, 11:10 PM   #1
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Default Ballots Cast Without Proof Of Citizenship ‘Exploded’ After Lawfare Crippled Arizona Election Laws

About 1,700 people in Arizona voted in 2018 with a federal-only ballot. Two years later, the number grew to 11,600 individuals.

After Arizona officials signed a consent decree agreeing to let voters who failed to provide proof of U.S. citizenship on their state voter application forms vote in federal elections anyway, Arizona saw an “explosion” of voters casting federal-only ballots. The soaring numbers coincide with millions of illegal immigrants flooding into the United States.
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In 2022, the Republican-led legislature passed two election integrity bills aimed at ensuring citizenship at the polls. As the Arizona Free Enterprise Club summarized, House Bill 2492 requires county recorders to reject any application for state voter registration that does not include documentary proof of citizenship. The bill also requires proof of citizenship to vote in presidential elections.
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, Fontes and his leftist predecessor, now-Gov. Katie Hobbs, have failed to do critical voter list maintenance. More than a dozen Arizona counties appear to be in violation of Section 8 of the (NVRA), which mandates states keep accurate and current voter rolls for elections for federal office.

AZ Free News reported last year that in two quarterly reports issued to the state legislature, the secretary of state’s office noted that it had received reports of more than 78,200 potentially invalid voters. The numbers included more than 1,300 individuals “who admitted to not being a citizen on a jury questionnaire”; and north of 23,600 people “who admitted to not being a resident of a county on a jury questionnaire.”
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“Election integrity means counting every lawful vote and prohibiting any attempt to illegally cast a vote,” Ducey wrote in a letter to Hobbs.

The left attacked, almost immediately. Several challenges making the usual hysterical claims of “voter suppression” were filed by roughly 20 far-left plaintiffs
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Legal observers say the case, which has already involved the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit and the U.S. Supreme Court
on ancillary matters, is destined for appeal.
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Meanwhile, Fontes, Arizona’s secretary of state, released an updated election manual in late December. The manual, created by Democrats for Democrats, thumbs its nose at the election integrity laws, allowing, among other things, voter registration applicants failing to provide proof of U.S. citizenship to vote in federal races.
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Old 01-22-2024, 11:45 PM   #2
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When it comes to voter fraud, this is one of my biggest concerns - voting by non-citizens.

Many states allow illegal immigrants to obtain driver's licenses. When they go down to the DMZ, they're asked if they also want to register to vote. Remember all those motor-voter drives? I always figured they're required to show proof of citizenship (e.g. a valid birth certificate) to register to vote. Now that's been waived? And in Arizona?

That's fucked up. Once they're on the voter registration rolls, nobody ever goes back and checks whether or not they are bona fide citizens. The Dems scream "racist" whenever anyone suggests many registered voters may be non-citizens. So it becomes impossible to prove - or even gauge the dimensions of the problem.
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Old 01-23-2024, 12:02 AM   #3
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When it comes to voter fraud, this is one of my biggest concerns - voting by non-citizens.

Many states allow illegal immigrants to obtain driver's licenses. When they go down to the DMZ, they're asked if they also want to register to vote. Remember all those motor-voter drives? I always figured they're required to show proof of citizenship (e.g. a valid birth certificate) to register to vote. Now that's been waived? And in Arizona?

That's fucked up. Once they're on the voter registration rolls, nobody ever goes back and checks whether or not they are bona fide citizens. The Dems scream "racist" whenever anyone suggests many registered voters may be non-citizens. So it becomes impossible to prove - or even gauge the dimensions of the problem.

in kalifornica they automatically are enrolled as voters.


allowing illegals to vote is one of the left's many threats against democracy
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Old 01-23-2024, 01:03 AM   #4
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About 1,700 people in Arizona voted in 2018 with a federal-only ballot. Two years later, the number grew to 11,600 individuals.

After Arizona officials signed a consent decree agreeing to let voters who failed to provide proof of U.S. citizenship on their state voter application forms vote in federal elections anyway, Arizona saw an “explosion” of voters casting federal-only ballots. The soaring numbers coincide with millions of illegal immigrants flooding into the United States.
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In 2022, the Republican-led legislature passed two election integrity bills aimed at ensuring citizenship at the polls. As the Arizona Free Enterprise Club summarized, House Bill 2492 requires county recorders to reject any application for state voter registration that does not include documentary proof of citizenship. The bill also requires proof of citizenship to vote in presidential elections.
.
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, Fontes and his leftist predecessor, now-Gov. Katie Hobbs, have failed to do critical voter list maintenance. More than a dozen Arizona counties appear to be in violation of Section 8 of the (NVRA), which mandates states keep accurate and current voter rolls for elections for federal office.

AZ Free News reported last year that in two quarterly reports issued to the state legislature, the secretary of state’s office noted that it had received reports of more than 78,200 potentially invalid voters. The numbers included more than 1,300 individuals “who admitted to not being a citizen on a jury questionnaire”; and north of 23,600 people “who admitted to not being a resident of a county on a jury questionnaire.”
.
.
“Election integrity means counting every lawful vote and prohibiting any attempt to illegally cast a vote,” Ducey wrote in a letter to Hobbs.

The left attacked, almost immediately. Several challenges making the usual hysterical claims of “voter suppression” were filed by roughly 20 far-left plaintiffs
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Legal observers say the case, which has already involved the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit and the U.S. Supreme Court
on ancillary matters, is destined for appeal.
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Meanwhile, Fontes, Arizona’s secretary of state, released an updated election manual in late December. The manual, created by Democrats for Democrats, thumbs its nose at the election integrity laws, allowing, among other things, voter registration applicants failing to provide proof of U.S. citizenship to vote in federal races.
Reading you guys posts are better than watching comedy central. Seriously...

Rice Paper, dead people voting, non citizen, automatic registered, count the votes, recount the votes, count the votes from people who never counted a vote in there life again, my sides are sore from laughing so much.


Berry, who are these people, we need names. With all the facts you get you have to have there names and addresses with all of those facts. 11,600 you have to give us some names and addresses out all of those fake votes. Lindsey Graham had ONE dead persons vote name after Jan 6th take over.

That many votes they have to be published every where. The FBI, Arizona voting authority has to have names published on every telephone pole in Arizona.

Please I can't take it no more with the reports of the reports of the reports. LOL You guys are adults, give it a break. Well just in case, LOL.

Preparing to lose again I see. I understand. STOPPING THE STEAL!!!! You guys and Trump himself couldn't take another lose. There has to be a reason other than he is uncapable.
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Old 01-23-2024, 07:41 AM   #5
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Lining up the excuses for fielding the worst candidate in the history of politics.

This thread is baseless.
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Old 01-23-2024, 10:32 AM   #6
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Yssup, try to stay on topic. This thread is about non-citizens being allowed to vote in Arizona.

Do you think that is a good idea? Do you think people who have entered our country illegally and haven't even applied for citizenship should be given the right to vote? Seriously?

Do they allow it in Texas where you live? Why or why not?
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Noncitizens can only vote in LOCAL elections in a few states, NOT FEDERAL elections. But I'm sure this fact won't stop trump and his cult from lying about it, like it's an actual problem

https://www.verifythis.com/article/n...b-60731adc8bca
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Old 01-23-2024, 11:45 AM   #8
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Reading you guys posts are better than watching comedy central. Seriously...

Rice Paper, dead people voting, non citizen, automatic registered, count the votes, recount the votes, count the votes from people who never counted a vote in there life again, my sides are sore from laughing so much.

Cody, please post your actual evidence that you have that show this is not happening and the story is not accurate.

Facts and evidence matter. I posted the actual news story. If you are going to question it, please post actual evidence to the contrary

And do you think illegals who have entered our country illegally and haven't even applied for citizenship should be given the right to vote?
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Old 01-23-2024, 11:57 AM   #9
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Cody, please post your actual evidence that you have that show this is not happening and the story is not accurate.

Facts and evidence matter. I posted the actual news story. If you are going to question it, please post actual evidence to the contrary

And do you think illegals who have entered our country illegally and haven't even applied for citizenship should be given the right to vote?
Just more lies and bullshit from the far-right conspiracy theories extremists. Zero proof... never is, just whining, crying, and complaining.
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Old 01-23-2024, 12:20 PM   #10
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Just more lies and bullshit from the far-right conspiracy theories extremists. Zero proof... never is, just whining, crying, and complaining.
While you are not Cody, thank you for confirming that you too have NO actual evidence to show this is not happening.

So now that we know the story that federal ballots are being cast without proof of citizenship by illegals is exploding in Arizone is accurate, do you support illegals / non US citizens voting in our federal elections? yes or no?
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