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05-05-2021, 10:45 PM
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Join Date: May 20, 2017
Location: Kansas City
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Is Free Speech dead in America?
Ever heard the saying, if one innocent man is in prison then all of us are in prison. Different variations on the theme. If one child is hungry..., if one person is denied healthcare..., and so on.
So now I ask you, if one man is denied free speech then none of us have free speech. If that one man was a president of the United States then we are all doomed. If they can take away his right to speak then none of us are safe. Ask Stephen Crowder, Ben Shapiro, Tim Pool, Joe Rogan, or Alex Jones. All of them have been kicked off, suspended, demonetized, or shadow banned because of what they said about something that the left does not want you to think about.
If I was a cartoonist, I draw a cartoon of a fresh grave with a tombstone that says, "Free Speech, 1781-2021" and the grave diggers would be Zuckerberg, Dorsey, Spiegel, and all the other tech billionaires.
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05-05-2021, 11:46 PM
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Join Date: Dec 30, 2009
Location: Only minutes from downtown
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Not dead..just thawed out in the sink
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05-06-2021, 12:02 AM
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AKA Admiral Waco Kid
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: The MAGA Zone
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Originally Posted by matchingmole
Mumbles Biden mumbling about slurred freedom of speech
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thank you valued poster
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05-06-2021, 01:42 AM
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BANNED
Join Date: Feb 3, 2021
Location: Smithville
Posts: 586
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Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn
Ever heard the saying, if one innocent man is in prison then all of us are in prison. Different variations on the theme. If one child is hungry..., if one person is denied healthcare..., and so on.
So now I ask you, if one man is denied free speech then none of us have free speech. If that one man was a president of the United States then we are all doomed. If they can take away his right to speak then none of us are safe. Ask Stephen Crowder, Ben Shapiro, Tim Pool, Joe Rogan, or Alex Jones. All of them have been kicked off, suspended, demonetized, or shadow banned because of what they said about something that the left does not want you to think about.
If I was a cartoonist, I draw a cartoon of a fresh grave with a tombstone that says, "Free Speech, 1781-2021" and the grave diggers would be Zuckerberg, Dorsey, Spiegel, and all the other tech billionaires.
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You describe metaphors and pretend they are absolutes. Did you notice no one you mentioned is filing a suit? Because none of them are being denied free speech. You're not a cartoonist, you're just a cartoon.
You have just summed yourself up.
You have no right to be on facebook. You have no right to speech on eccie. You have no right to be on any electronic media.
How many times do you have to be corrected?
Privately owned platforms can deny service to any one.
You think because you and your ilk want to be on any given platform you can be. Don't worry, eccie won't kick you off for lying. Because you're nobody. They (privately owned media) hold others (somebodies/public figures/others) to a different standard.
We get it. You don't understand what being denied free speech is. At this point, it's obvious you'll never understand.
None of your "friends" know either. It suits their purpose/ narrative to not stop you from leading with your chin.
Since that would be disingenuous to pretend you weren't wrong, they can't define it either.
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05-06-2021, 01:46 AM
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Account Frozen
Join Date: Aug 8, 2020
Location: Ding Dong
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Dude, that's like saying AT&T or Motorola have the right to shut off your cell phone service because of your political beliefs lol.
I don't know the significance of a company being privately owned. I think that just influences stocks and stuff.
Why would you defend YouTube and Twitter censoring independent content to promote corporate media?
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05-06-2021, 02:47 AM
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Join Date: May 20, 2017
Location: Kansas City
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Originally Posted by VerySkeptical
You describe metaphors and pretend they are absolutes. Did you notice no one you mentioned is filing a suit? Because none of them are being denied free speech. You're not a cartoonist, you're just a cartoon.
You have just summed yourself up.
You have no right to be on facebook. You have no right to speech on eccie. You have no right to be on any electronic media.
How many times do you have to be corrected?
Privately owned platforms can deny service to any one.
You think because you and your ilk want to be on any given platform you can be. Don't worry, eccie won't kick you off for lying. Because you're nobody. They (privately owned media) hold others (somebodies/public figures/others) to a different standard.
We get it. You don't understand what being denied free speech is. At this point, it's obvious you'll never understand.
None of your "friends" know either. It suits their purpose/ narrative to not stop you from leading with your chin.
Since that would be disingenuous to pretend you weren't wrong, they can't define it either.
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I was waiting for someone like you.
Private platforms can deny service...what about the bakers who did not want to make gay wedding cakes? The courts have decided that private businesses DO NOT have the right to deny service.
Public figures are held to a different standard...what standard are you talking about? Facebook, Twitter, and others do not publish that standard. They put forth a rather ambiguous framework of behavior that they violate themselves frequently.
I'm not on Facebook or Twitter. The only social media site that I frequent is ECCIE. I am still passed about my recent banning for the following reasons; my words were nearly identical to a couple of democrat representatives. We're they censored on other sites? Nope, but I get banned. I use a turn of phrase that is, admittedly, archaic but in my opinion not an attack on anyone. Standards have to be open and available for anyone. After all, what happens if we all leave? ECCIE only exists if we participate.
I'm tired of trying to explain common sense to a flock of sheep. I'm going to go to bed. We can agree that you are a uncommon fool.
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05-06-2021, 03:40 AM
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Account Frozen
Join Date: Aug 8, 2020
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VerySkeptical defends censorship because it's of people he doesn't like.
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05-06-2021, 03:55 AM
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Join Date: Jan 16, 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 51,038
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Is Free Speech dead in America?
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No.
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05-06-2021, 07:01 AM
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Join Date: Jul 7, 2010
Location: Dive Bar
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Free speech is discouraged on FB, Twitter, YouTube and others. They are confining themselves to libtard circle jerks while their revenues go down. Brilliant!!! As most libtard strategies are. Meanwhile, other platforms are popping up. GAB, Telegram, Parler, Rumble and others. And they are growing rapidly.
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05-06-2021, 07:27 AM
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Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: Clarksville
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And ECCIE?
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05-06-2021, 07:35 AM
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Join Date: Jan 18, 2010
Location: texas (close enough for now)
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the left is trying heartily to end free speech
their attempts go under different guises
first it was hate speech
something as innocent as saying you were voting for trump on college campuses was hate speech
now its devolved into stopping "disinformation"
which in practice means, stopping anything we disagree with
the left doesn't want free speech, they want managed speech, where they manage all speech
where they can manage speech, they manage kids minds
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05-06-2021, 07:37 AM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: Clarksville
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I think we should all want TRUE speech.
Apparently you disagree with that, liberty lovers.
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05-06-2021, 07:39 AM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Jul 7, 2010
Location: Dive Bar
Posts: 42,779
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
I think we should all want TRUE speech.
Apparently you disagree with that, liberty lovers.
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Turn off your TV and start looking for it.
BAHAHAHAHAQQQQISH
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05-06-2021, 07:43 AM
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Join Date: Jan 18, 2010
Location: texas (close enough for now)
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
I think we should all want TRUE speech.
Apparently you disagree with that, liberty lovers.
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the left has never valued truth ever, or at least since the left grew to such an extent there became a left
it is not a leftist value
their truth is a "my truth" and an expedient and situational truth
here's a taste of their ideas...from the brookings instiotute
1. Governments should promote news literacy and strong professional journalism in their societies.
2. The news industry must provide high-quality journalism in order to build public trust and correct fake news and disinformation without legitimizing them.
3. Technology companies should invest in tools that identify fake news, reduce financial incentives for those who profit from disinformation, and improve online accountability.
4. Educational institutions should make informing people about news literacy a high priority.
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05-06-2021, 07:46 AM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Jul 7, 2010
Location: Dive Bar
Posts: 42,779
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Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought
the left has never valued truth ever, or at least since the left grew to such an extent there became a left
it is not a leftist value
their truth is a "my truth" and an expedient and situational truth
here's a taste of their ideas...from the brookings instiotute
1. Governments should promote news literacy and strong professional journalism in their societies.
2. The news industry must provide high-quality journalism in order to build public trust and correct fake news and disinformation without legitimizing them.
3. Technology companies should invest in tools that identify fake news, reduce financial incentives for those who profit from disinformation, and improve online accountability.
4. Educational institutions should make informing people about news literacy a high priority.
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YR thinks Russian Collusion was the TRUTH!!!!!!!
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