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Throbbing Metal · 07-13-2010, 04:40 PM

I've been a lurker here for awhile and today I set up my first appointment in Austin. I've "hobbied" overseas but never in the US. I ran into an issue with my first Austin appointment which raised a few questions for me. I thought I'd post here and see what y'all have to say.

I contacted a provider (she advertised on eccie a couple days ago) on her preferred email address as her ad directed. The ad did not request sending screening data so I expected that her response would. Or that she'd at least want to speak on the phone with me. But no. She set the appointment and gave me her incall address, and her phone number, just like that, via email. The only information she had about me was a yahoo email address. I'm having second thoughts about seeing her because that seems more than a bit reckless to me. Perhaps she's a security concern, I don't know. But I thought I'd get some of your perspectives about this. Maybe I'm making a mountain out of a molehill.

Here's a little more detail. The provider in question has been a local provider for over a year based on various reviews and threads. She was listed as at least one person's ATF in a thread on that subject in co-ed awhile back. So she's not a newbie.

Guys (more so to men with an established career and family), would you see a provider who didn't screen? I mean nobody likes the hassle right? Does it provide some mutual security or is it all to the beneift of the provider? Do I have anything to fear in this scenario?

Ladies, what would you tell a friend who was thinking about seeing a provider who didn't screen - not even the least amount?

I haven't named the provider because I'm not sure doing so is worthwhile or within board guidelines. Please advise.

Dick Diamond · 07-13-2010, 05:12 PM

OH NO

levibob56 · 07-13-2010, 05:19 PM

REM
Yes it could be a concern. i've been Oked before but she knew me from this board.
She had already read some of my posts and kind of knew of me. You are on your own on this one. Hell email her back and ask her if this is her MO! Ask her why she OKed you.
You do not have anything to lose but the session.

LadiesFan · 07-13-2010, 05:23 PM

damn.... the ladies just can't win... We bitch when they screen too much, and we bitch when they don't screen at all

Maybe she just got your e-mail address confused with someone she has already seen. I would contact her again and volunteer your references, this way, if she did get you confused, she won't have a WTF moment when she opens the door and finds your there instead of the gent she is expecting.

LF

Whispers · 07-13-2010, 05:27 PM

This "hobby" is the Oldest Profession in the history of the world....

Personally.... I've played around for over 30 years now....

Screening has not been around all that long and is not practiced by the vast majority of ladies and Agencies that engage in this business outside of the Internet.... In any major city of the US you can find a flyer, back of a paper, craigslist or back page, pick up the phone, order a lady and 30 minutes to an hour later shes at your door..... Screening happens in person in the old fashioned way....

I see it as more of an internet thing....

The old fashioned, two people get together, someone gets comfortable has been around a hell of a lot longer.... and is used a lot more.... Outside of ladies you meet on boards like this.....

Personally I don't screen, won't provide my personal information to anyone, won't jump through hoops of any kind.... too many ladies, like you have found, simply do not require it, and when they do, there are ways around it in some cases.

I also never bring money in an envelope or place an envelope anywhere for anyone.... I never discuss money or services or anything of the sort....I do nothing to put myself at risk and should the lady I'm with suggest anything I am uncomfortable with I leave........

I think the vast majority of answers you will get here, online, will suggest you not see her.....

You may get a few different answers if you ask the question in the Locker Room...... In Coed a Lot of folks are afraid to rile other folks up and it taints the response.....

You may find as it is closer to the appointment that she "forgot" or for some reason thought you were someone else and wants to screen you then....

Some might suggest that if it was a Lady KNOWN to have screened that all of a sudden is not that you should be concerned that her account may be compromised and you could walk into some sort of a setup.....

So how you handle it will ultimately depend on YOUR level of expertise in these situations as well as how comfortable you are in handling yourself....

For those of us that do not screen..... It's an everyday thing.....

Good Luck...

Throbbing Metal · 07-13-2010, 05:48 PM

That was a valid idea but since she wrote she can't wait to meet me in one of her emails I think we're safe there won't be a WTF moment.

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Originally Posted by LadiesFan

Maybe she just got your e-mail address confused with someone she has already seen. I would contact her again and volunteer your references, this way, if she did get you confused, she won't have a WTF moment when she opens the door and finds your there instead of the gent she is expecting.

LF

Sensual Sophia · 07-13-2010, 05:53 PM

Well if she's been regularly reviewed on the board, you can be fairly certain she's not a cop or a thief. While the remote possibility exists that LE has hijacked her account, it is just that, remote. APD puts very little time into escort busts. Mainly they focus on SW and occasionally do a CL round-up or bust a spa/studio. Elaborate stings involving infiltration of existing provider accounts are not the way they go about things. But there's always a first time for everything.

Personally, I would be worried because lack of screening is a sign of poor judgment, and sometimes a sign of desperation. You have to wonder about a provider who can't handle this basic task. And the lack of security in her life, could possibly lead to trouble for you. She could have creeps stalking her (not that it's a woman's fault when she gets stalked) and you could end up in a weird situation. Years ago a provider let a hobbyist fix her computer. He turned out to be a stalker type and he looked up her client's info and began harassing her other clients. Or she could get busted with your number in her cell phone. But even if that did happen, I doubt LE would do anything with your info.

I think the risk to you is small. But the risk to her is great. If I were in your shoes, I'd see her but I would mention that her lack of screening made me nervous and that I considered bailing because of it. I would also point out that not screening is a ticking time bomb.

You might ask her to visit the powder room so her fellow providers can regale her with our tales of busts, beatings, rapes, stalkers, robbers, etc.

And THANK YOU so much for NOT MENTIONING HER NAME. That could make her a target for the psychos.

Throbbing Metal · 07-13-2010, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Whispers

Some might suggest that if it was a Lady KNOWN to have screened that all of a sudden is not that you should be concerned that her account may be compromised and you could walk into some sort of a setup.....

So how you handle it will ultimately depend on YOUR level of expertise in these situations as well as how comfortable you are in handling yourself....
Good Luck...

A setup...hadn't considered that. Damn, now you've raised my paranoia level.

Well, if the men don't speak their mind in co-ed, it seems from a long thread whose contents I couldn't understand that the ladies will. Or at least some of 'em.

But maybe it's like you say - Maybe more providers do it than are willing to admit. In that case, this thread is going to be kinda dull and uninformative.

Throbbing Metal · 07-13-2010, 06:05 PM

Recklessness is exactly my concern except you've incorporated practical examples to put things into perspective whereas I had only a general feeling. Thank you!

In a way it seems that this gal is doing even less screening than a streetwalker. At least a SW can tell a driver to move along if she doesn't like what she sees. This gal is willing to open the front door on her duplex to a complete stranger for a 10 pm or later appointment. It's disturbing.

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Originally Posted by Sensual Sophia

Personally, I would be worried because lack of screening is a sign of poor judgment, and sometimes a sign of desperation. You have to wonder about a provider who can't handle this basic task. And the lack of security in her life, could possibly lead to trouble for you. She could have creeps stalking her (not that it's a woman's fault when she gets stalked) and you could end up in a weird situation.

Guest120311-2 · 07-13-2010, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by REM

Recklessness is exactly my concern except you've incorporated practical examples to put things into perspective whereas I had only a general feeling. Thank you!

In a way it seems that this gal is doing even less screening than a streetwalker. At least a SW can tell a driver to move along if she doesn't like what she sees. This gal is willing to open the front door on her duplex to a complete stranger for a 10 pm or later appointment. It's disturbing.

To each her own, but I find it disturbing as well!
Tess

AidanRedd · 07-14-2010, 03:43 AM

Hell, even I would NEVER give my apt or room # out without at least hearing their voice on the phone. REM isn't a known enough name or have the post history to get that either.

Budman · 07-14-2010, 06:45 AM

I don't think it is nearly as uncommon as many believe. I've seen several well known and reviewed providers with absolutely no screening. One time the only attempt at screening was when I had arrived at the incall she ask me what my handle was on ASPD. I could have used any handle I wanted because that was the end of the screenig process. The lack of screening by a provider is much more of a concern for her safety as opposed to the hobbyist. If you are seeing a well known provider you have already screened her via reviews and recommendations.

Baloney Pony · 07-14-2010, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sensual Sophia

Well if she's been regularly reviewed on the board, you can be fairly certain she's not a cop or a thief.

Howdy, Folks!

Just remember - things change.

As to becoming a cop - unlikely, but I know for a fact it *can* happen(lady I knew did become a police officer; fortunately, I wasn't a client of hers either before or after she made the career move).

Becoming a thief?

Could certainly happen...

The economy is still in the dumper, no matter what anyone says. We are incredibly blessed in Austin, on the whole, but...we are not totally immune. Some folks are really having hard times.

*Always* play safe in The Hobby, and if yer gut tells you "no," don't think with The Little Head OR The Big Head - go with the gut.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...t-second-brain

bestoralntexas · 07-14-2010, 12:47 PM

well, screening means jack shit if LE is intent on you being busted. From experience I speak.
People meaning providers and hobbyist will roll, employment verification is easily maneuvered, in any form, so far P411 is ok with there system, but as far as all the crap providers use as a safety net...will only make them feel safer.
She was going with her best screening tool..INSTINCT! and she will learn to sharpen it.. My two cents

AidanRedd · 07-14-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sensual Sophia

Well if she's been regularly reviewed on the board, you can be fairly certain she's not a cop or a thief.

Not true Sophia, this board has knowingly let a regularly reviewed provider be on the board that works with the Austin Police Department.

Not to mention, another well known provider that was even a mod at one time is a thief and can't be trusted either.