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Old 11-19-2012, 01:49 AM   #1
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Default The Wall Of Hate: Israel's Unquenchable Thirst For Palestinian Land And Resources & The REAL Reason For The Assault In Gaza?

The Wall Of Hate

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Old 11-19-2012, 03:36 AM   #2
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Palestinian vs. Israeli conflict is the "chicken or the egg" scenario ...

... if one desires to base the conversation on U.N. resolutions and agreements the one ought to begin with the first agreements as a foundation and move forward ...

... if one desires to base the conversation on the history of thousands of years .. then one must first establish the factual truth of that history, as opposed to tales passed on by generations until finally reduced to writing with the slant of the particular author's background and beliefs ...

... if one desires to base the conversation on the current circumstances, then one must determine who fired the first round in this latest salvo ....

Before the U.S. (and/or its citizens) starts passing judgment on the Israelis vs. the Palestinians by suggesting the Palestinians 'were there first," there ought to be some careful examination of our own history of "settlements" and the "solutions" implemented to accomplish those efforts.

Particularly if one lives in Texas.

It was not too long ago that "Palestinians" entered Israel on work permits to enjoy the benefits derived from a thriving and productive economy and thereby have opportunities that were not so available in their own communities. That relatonship facilitated bombings and other violence in Israel. We have had the same circumstance across our Southern border in Texas for years .. had that relationship allowed bombings and imported violence then it would have been stopped (our choice). The Southwestern states are not being faced with that growing reality. Our relations with Mexico would deteriorate rapidly if the Mexican govenrment allowed gangs from political parties in Mexico to launch rockets into the communities along the border on the U.S. side. Our government is entitled to stop the shelling and rockets.
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:12 AM   #3
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Exclamation Long Conflict

The conflict with Arabs and Israelis has been going on since before I can remember.

I doubt these people even know why they're fighting anymore and a long string of US President's have tried to break the cycle, but none have succeeded.

. . . It's like talking sense to two angry pit bulls!
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Now that you have identified yourself as a terrorist I'm hoping you are in C R...
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Palestinian vs. Israeli conflict is the "chicken or the egg" scenario ...

... if one desires to base the conversation on U.N. resolutions and agreements the one ought to begin with the first agreements as a foundation and move forward ...

... if one desires to base the conversation on the history of thousands of years .. then one must first establish the factual truth of that history, as opposed to tales passed on by generations until finally reduced to writing with the slant of the particular author's background and beliefs ...

... if one desires to base the conversation on the current circumstances, then one must determine who fired the first round in this latest salvo ....

Before the U.S. (and/or its citizens) starts passing judgment on the Israelis vs. the Palestinians by suggesting the Palestinians 'were there first," there ought to be some careful examination of our own history of "settlements" and the "solutions" implemented to accomplish those efforts.

Particularly if one lives in Texas.

It was not too long ago that "Palestinians" entered Israel on work permits to enjoy the benefits derived from a thriving and productive economy and thereby have opportunities that were not so available in their own communities. That relatonship facilitated bombings and other violence in Israel. We have had the same circumstance across our Southern border in Texas for years .. had that relationship allowed bombings and imported violence then it would have been stopped (our choice). The Southwestern states are not being faced with that growing reality. Our relations with Mexico would deteriorate rapidly if the Mexican govenrment allowed gangs from political parties in Mexico to launch rockets into the communities along the border on the U.S. side. Our government is entitled to stop the shelling and rockets.
Numbers indicate Israel’s economy slowing down, heading for possible recession

The Case for Palestinian Workers Re-entering Israel's Labor Force
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:49 PM   #6
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See, if someone kept sending rockets toward you would you just sit there and take it? Fuck no! Israel is defending itself from the recent attacks by Hamas.
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Now that you have identified yourself as a terrorist I'm hoping you are in C R...

As you quoted no one, I assume you are calling those that side with Hamas terrorists.


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See, if someone kept sending rockets toward you would you just sit there and take it? Fuck no! Israel is defending itself from the recent attacks by Hamas.
Pretty much. Israel has every right to defend itself. Living under constant siege as they do, I think they practice restraint.
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See, if someone kept sending rockets toward you would you just sit there and take it? Fuck no! Israel is defending itself from the recent attacks by Hamas.
You may want to do a little more research on the subject!
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I like Ron Paul, but I don't think he is the be all - end all authority on Israel. I will admit that I am a Zionist, because the Jews are allowed to have a nation. No one in Europe after WWII wanted to take them in- that is to say back to their own homes and lands. Ever heard of Masada? Ever heard of the Temple of David. Ever heard of Judea? It's their land. They, albeit reluctantly, are willing to share it. The Israelis didn't start the shelling, but they will finish it.
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I like Ron Paul, but I don't think he is the be all - end all authority on Israel. I will admit that I am a Zionist, because the Jews are allowed to have a nation. No one in Europe after WWII wanted to take them in- that is to say back to their own homes and lands. Ever heard of Masada? Ever heard of the Temple of David. Ever heard of Judea? It's their land. They, albeit reluctantly, are willing to share it. The Israelis didn't start the shelling, but they will finish it.
How will they finish it?
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:56 PM   #11
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As you quoted no one, I assume you are calling those that side with Hamas terrorists.


The innocent people in Israel and in Gaza, I'm on their side!

Strange thing though... Did Israel create Hamas... it's been reported in Israeli and the international press, etc.
As the US created Al Qaeda.
The powers that be in America still use, fund and praise Al Qaeda.
If you don't have a real enemy, create one.
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That's up to the Hamas agressors isn't it.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:11 AM   #13
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I will admit that I am a Zionist,...
No disrespect intended but your more like a "Porch Zionist"...
The real Zionists that live in America (the bankers) control the economy/monetary policy and have destroyed both.
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The real Zionists that live in America (the bankers) control the economy/monetary policy and have destroyed both.
At least there is now a basis for comprehending your reason for being pro-Hamas....

... pro-Iran ... pro-Al Qeada ... your point is taken ....

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http://news.msn.com/world/clinton-to...se-fire-builds

Clinton-Who-Lets-You-Hang-Out-To-Dry-And-Die is on her way to sit down with the Israelis.

Israelis: If she will let her own people die, what will she do for us?

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