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Old 01-15-2020, 08:32 PM   #1
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Old 01-16-2020, 05:55 PM   #2
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bloomberg is an idiot. he cant/wont win in the south!
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Yeah Bloombutt wants to restore Odumbocare so he sure isn't getting my vote .....
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Bloomberg is a complete idiot.
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We'll see.
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Wanna make a little wager there Stiki? Ima betting on Trump.
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He might take a couple Northeast States, but nationwide, heh.
I guess we'll see how much he spends.
But maybe this will get other low rankings to drop out.
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He might take a couple Northeast States, but nationwide, heh.
I guess we'll see how much he spends.
But maybe this will get other low rankings to drop out.
Kudos on posting the cartoon, it's fucking hilarious!

His strategy looks a little more nuanced than that - tossing off Iowa and New Hampshire and focusing instead on battleground states for Super Tuesday. He's out there, including in Texas, pressing the flesh while other Dem candidates focus on Iowa and New Hampshire, and with a focus on conservative and moderate Dems:

https://www.tpr.org/post/michael-blo...-super-tuesday

"...Cal Jillson, a political science professor at Southern Methodist University, thought that was a risky strategy. He pointed out that Bloomberg has essentially ignored the first four primaries and caucuses and instead is gambling big on Super Tuesday in California and Texas.

""His bet is that he didn't have the time or really the personality or interest to do the kind of retail campaigning that is required, in both Iowa and New Hampshire," Jillson explained. "But he did have the money to spend big on television and other kinds of advertising to try to enter the fray on Super Tuesday and win some of those big states, or at least do very, very well.”

"Jillson said Bloomberg is looking for voters in Texas who haven’t had a champion in a long time.

"“His entry at this point is into the ... traditional wing of the Democratic Party," he said. "They're sort of all [U.S. Sen.] Lloyd Bentsen, [President] Lyndon Johnson, [Texas Gov.] John Connally -- moderate to conservative Democrats to the extent that they still exist. He has shown no real strength, that I'm aware of, among Hispanics and blacks. He'll have to build some.”"


Personally, I think that will be tough, given Bloomberg's close association with stop and frisk in New York:

https://www.newsweek.com/bloomberg-d...pinion-1474523

But he may peel off a few older, whiter, wealthier voters suffering from Trump fatigue.
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Old 01-18-2020, 12:46 PM   #9
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/17/polit...020/index.html

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Why Donald Trump is so obsessed with Michael Bloomberg

Michael Bloomberg appears to be living rent-free in President Donald Trump's head.

In just the last four days, the President has tweeted four times about the former New York City mayor and current candidate for the 2020 Democratic nomination.

The amount of attention Trump is paying Bloomberg is wholly outsized when compared to the former mayor's current standing in the race. Bloomberg is running fifth in Real Clear Politics average of national polls on the 2020 Democratic primary and is non-existent in the first four states to vote. (Bloomberg is effectively skipping those states due to his late entry into the race.)

So, what gives? Why is Trump so obsessed with Bloomberg? Four major reasons:

1) Bloomberg is very, very rich: According to Forbes, Bloomberg is the eighth richest person in America, with a net worth north of $53 billion. Trump, for his part, clocks in at 275th, with a net worth of just over $3 billion. Trump uses wealth as a measuring stick of success and importance. And he is all too aware that Bloomberg is significantly richer than him.

2) Bloomberg is spending his money: It's not just that Bloomberg is a lot richer than Trump. It's that, despite the fact that he hasn't been running for president long, Bloomberg is spending tons of money to boost his campaign. ... "Note to self: The ads hitting the President's health care record are working," tweeted Bloomberg adviser Howard Wolfson on Friday morning. "Run more."

3) Bloomberg is a New Yorker: Trump, although he no longer is an official resident of New York, still thinks of the the state -- and New York City, in particular -- as home. His demeanor, his approach to business and politics -- it's all very much rooted in being a New Yorker. That Bloomberg is not only on Trump's home turf but spent more than a decade as the city's mayor irks the President to no end.

4) Bloomberg is a businessman: Trump has made no secret of his disdain for politicians. And his admiration and love for successful businessmen. Bloomberg is, without question, a hugely successful businessman. And as I mentioned above, a very rich one. Which means Trump can't dismiss him as some loser lifetime politician.

Add up all those factors and you can see why the President is spending time picking on the height of someone who isn't a top-tier candidate for the nomination. (Sidebar: The President of the United States is picking on someone's height.) This isn't about Bloomberg's poll numbers. This is about Trump feeling threatened by someone who he can't dismiss as poorer or less successful than him. And since those are the only ways in which Trump measures himself against, well, everyone, he can't get Bloomberg out of his head.
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Lost me right there.

Yet another liberal hack at CNN peddling a 20 lb load of excrement in a 10 lb sack.
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So basically a cop-out instead of a counter-argument? How predictable.
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So basically a cop-out instead of a counter-argument? How predictable.
Liberty affords me the option to decide many things for myself. For some, liberty means they can copy-pasta other peoples thoughts. To each their own...
Best 'ol Mini-Mike will accomplish is to toss a bunch of cash into others coffers.
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Old 01-19-2020, 12:15 PM   #13
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Best 'ol Mini-Mike will accomplish is to toss a bunch of cash into others coffers.
Bloomberg's goal is to unseat Trump, and he's pledged support for the Democratic nominee. Time will tell if that support includes tossing a bunch of cash into others' coffers.
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Bloomberg's goal is to unseat Trump, and he's pledged support for the Democratic nominee. Time will tell if that support includes tossing a bunch of cash into others' coffers.
No need to guess or wait. According to Mini-Mike, that is his plan. Interesting platform plank that Mini-Mike shares with the entire Socialist party (trying to be kind by not calling them the more correct term - Communists) "goal is to unseat Trump". Remember when a political party had goals of doing good works and had policies and ideals? Now it's just Orange Man bad. That's all they got. Plus Creepy Uncle Joe. And Ye olde, tried and true, plank of FREE STUFF, if all else fails.
Or you could ask some New Yorkers about Mini-Mike. Not many fans there.
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Old 01-20-2020, 04:13 PM   #15
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So basically a cop-out instead of a counter-argument? How predictable.
You cant argue with stupid! Who wants to read such dribble?
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