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Old 11-16-2024, 07:01 AM   #1
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Default The Real Reason(s) The Left Lost

It is my belief that the election results were less about the politicians, Trump, Biden and later on Harris . . .and more about rejecting the overall agenda of the progressive left.

One key indicator of this was the number of Moslem voters in Michigan who did not vote for Democrats. This says to me that these were people who felt less strongly about supporting the Palestinians in Gaza and more strongly about opposing the presence of biological males in their daughter's locker-room.

The really weird aspects of the progressive agenda also brought the other demographic groups of middle America to the Republican side, those "uneducated" folks who make up that portion of the population that does the work in our cities and on our farms, in the auto repair shops and factories, those folks who bring food to our tables or who cook it, the people who care for us in clinics and hospitals. These folks who make it all happen every day.

These are people who know who is or is not a woman. these are people who have a good handle on what is right and what is wrong . . .and they viewed the agenda of the progressive left as profoundly wrong.
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Old 11-16-2024, 07:54 AM   #2
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The left has certainly jumped the shark with wokeism and the subversive gender stuff.

But it's not just that. They ignored their original working class base, imported "new future Democrats" from the third world, undermining existing working class citizens.

The left party (Dems) has become the party of the rich. Look at California, which is fully controlled by Democrats: it's a state of the super rich and their servants, the middle class has been leaving by the millions. Housing prices, regulations and taxes are out of control.

The left has come to love war, it's surreal to see Neocons on the left's bandwagon.

So these are some of the reasons they lost. They're out of touch with the voter and with common sense.
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Definitely about policy. If it weren't for the totally negative lame stream media stories on Trump Republicans would have probably gotten 60% of the popular vote.
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Old 11-16-2024, 04:47 PM   #4
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Victor Davis Hanson

...“I don’t think the left have any idea — this new left — how despised they are by the majority of people. They don’t understand the more they talk about ‘the Republican Party has been hijacked,’ the party, 94% of the Republican Party are happy where it is now,” Hanson said.

“It’s the party that’s changed, the Democratic Party. It’s the one that’s hemorrhaging, because it doesn’t even look like anything close to the old Democratic Party. It’s a full-blown, neo-socialist, anarchist party,” Hanson concluded...
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...“I don’t think the left have any idea — this new left — how despised they are by the majority of people. They don’t understand the more they talk about ‘the Republican Party has been hijacked,’ the party, 94% of the Republican Party are happy where it is now,” Hanson said.

“It’s the party that’s changed, the Democratic Party. It’s the one that’s hemorrhaging, because it doesn’t even look like anything close to the old Democratic Party. It’s a full-blown, neo-socialist, anarchist party,” Hanson concluded...
... And their past voters are ABANDONING them. ...

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Republicans are largely inept at governing, but savants at vilifying opponents. Many Republican voters have a visceral hatred of Mr. Biden and that, along with the persistence of high prices, doomed Kamala Harris’s candidacy.


Not my words, excerpted from a letter in the NYT.
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Republicans are largely inept at governing, but savants at vilifying opponents. Many Republican voters have a visceral hatred of Mr. Biden and that, along with the persistence of high prices, doomed Kamala Harris’s candidacy.


Not my words, excerpted from a letter in the NYT.
Oh, but the Dems are so great at governing, ok gotcha
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Oh, but the Dems are so great at governing, ok gotcha
At a federal level absolutely.
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At a federal level absolutely.
I don't think expanding bureaucracy is governing. It's cancer. How has ever burgeoning bureaucracy benefitted the governed?

Nominally the purpose of government should be to benefit its citizens, not itself.
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I don't think expanding bureaucracy is governing. It's cancer. How has ever burgeoning bureaucracy benefitted the governed?

Nominally the purpose of government should be to benefit its citizens, not itself.
You are right. But neither is kowtowing to unfettered capitalism and greed. Which is the type of thing that happens under republican deregulation and tax cuts.
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Why They Lost?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKBJoj4XyFc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM0sIdoDeNU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZr7EzZxWFU

'Nuff said . . .and all from Democrats.
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Old 11-17-2024, 05:17 PM   #12
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One key indicator of this was the number of Muslim voters in Michigan who did not vote for Democrats.
Powerful video of Imam Belal Alzuhairi endorsing President Trump
"I Believe God Saved His Life to Save the Lives of Others"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk32U2MXuTQ
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Democrats lost because they went full woke.
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Democrats lost because they went full woke.
Thinking that’s why the Democrats lost is as stupid as thinking that the Republicans won because they went fully racist and homophobic.
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Well . . .no. The Republicans won because they were not weird. The mainstream folks do not largly buy into the whole LGBTQ thing. This weirdness aversion is even stronger when it comes to the trans gender agenda.

Whatever the Republicans are in your view, they are less woke-weird than the Domocrats . . .and that made the diffeence in my view.
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