Gentlemen, I respect all of you, so I'm not trying to start an argument here. Rather, I'm trying to understand why you feel like you do. I'm pro choice, but abortion doesn't affect my preference in candidates. Rather it actually is the "economy stupid", as oilfieldace puts it. I vote with my pocket book in mind, first and foremost.
My cousin is a Republican/Libertarian, like me (it runs in the family), who might have voted for Trump in 2016 if Gary Johnson had't been running. She thought favorably of Trump until the post 2020 election shenanigans. In this election however, she voted a straight Democratic ticket. The sole reason was the abortion issue. She's mad as hell and has marched in a couple of protests. I believe this issue, abortion, really holds back the Republican Party.
Also, as the Waco Kid has noted several times, if you assume children are likely to vote like their parents, the legalization of abortion has resulted in millions fewer Democrats populating the country. This is an electoral advantage for Republicans.
My question, why do you believe abortion is immoral, in the early stages of pregnancy? Why do you believe it's equivalent to murder?
My thoughts -- I took a couple of biology classes in college, so I'm an expert, just like my friend adav8s28! I don't believe there's much difference between a human embryo and a frog embryo. And up to 12 weeks anyway, I'm not sure why it's necessarily more immoral to get an abortion than to kill a dog.
As to religious reasons, the Bible doesn't have much to say about this. My cousin has researched this a bit, and can spout Biblical verses that could justify the practice. I just googled "Biblical verses abortion" and one of the first things that came up was this, written by people who are obviously pro life, and deeply religious,
https://www.biblestudytools.com/topi...bout-abortion/
Ironically, a couple of these passages are the same as what my cousin quoted. I'll repeat them here. And I think I agree with her. Apparently Hebrews were using poisons to try to determine whether fetuses were the product of adultery. If they were, the poisons would cause the woman to miscarry. That is, Hebrew priests were performing chemical abortions, presumably sanctioned by God.
Numbers 5:27-28
27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse.
28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.
Numbers 5:19-22
19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you.
20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”—
21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the LORD cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell.
22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.” “ ‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”
Well it isn’t the economy stupid
