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Old 09-13-2014, 10:02 PM   #1
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Wednesday, April 6, 2011

Advice for Guys who Hire Backpage Escorts
I thought I would start a blog to advise Guys on dealing with Backpage Escorts, especially if you feel you have been scammed, cheated, or didn't get what you paid for and how you can get even.

First, you should ask her what she services she does or won't do when you call her. Don't be disrespectfull, don't be crude or rude but be direct and make sure she is going to do the things you expect her to do.

The Second thing to do is to get her to agree to the full time your paying for. If its a half hour, hour, 2 hours whatever, get her to agree to it over the phone. Then before you pay her, have her agree again to the full amount of time your paying for. Then set your timer on your cell phone or her phone or a clock in the room so there is no disagreement when the time is up. The room depends on the situation. If she coming to your hotel room fine. If it's your place or hers thats fine too. But if you meet at a hotel, then she pays for the room. Why...because she can use it for future clients. If you pay for the room, then make sure she agrees to take it out of her fee if she gets the room key and future use of the room.

The third thing you should do is save the webpage with the ad. In Internet Explorer just click page-then save as-then choose Webpage HTML Only. If your not comfortable doing that, you can always use a screen grabber program such as ScreenHunter, which will save your computer screens content to a .jpg picture. Ads can be pulled at any time. By saving the page or doing a screengrab, you have all the information from the ad for future reference. If she calls you and its a different phone number then the one you called, save that one too...you might need it

Always bring your own condoms...Most girls don't bring that many with. The reason they don't, is if you break the 3 condoms she brought...it's over if you didn't bring any more regardless of your agreement. Girls will not continue without condoms. You should bring the right size that fits you. Cause if it comes off she gonna wanna stop. I always bring at least 4..more if its for a couple hours or multiple girls at a time. Those thing break real easy when you having fun.

Have you ever met with an escort, exchanged money and then she says I don't do blowjobs...which most of us usually start out with. I can tell you from experience that when a girl starts out by saying "I don't do blowjobs".it's only going to go downhill there. The next thing she is going to tell you is she doesn't do this position or that postion or she only does doggie. The only things an escort should be refusing to do when she charges $150, $200, $250 or more per hour is to refuse to allow you to perform oral sex ON HER or ANAL, which is extra if she does it at all.. Always find out before you exchange the money. Although it's probably not gonna work, you could try to ask for your money back before things get started. Or try to renegotiate. Don't make a gigantic scene but do be firm. If she refuses and you proceed, Which most of us are going to do anyways,...be carefull. At least your forewarned.

Another warning sign is your there and things start going and she talks all the time and doesn't seem very attentive. Or she is all matter of fact and dosen't seem into it. If you don't hear any enthusiasm, fake or not... your probably gonna be dissatisfied. Typically girls that do that are trying to bring something up. Some way to get you to cut it short. She will come up with some excuse like...I need a bus ticket so my cousin can come to town or some other lame excuse to get you to stop. She is playing on your sympathies to scam you, to get a ride, to get you to do something for her. At any rate your probably gonna hear some sob story and she wants you to do something for free. She might even say that after you do what she wants you can finish and she gonna give you more or "extra". Don't fall for it. She scamming you. Once you stop and put your clothes back on, its over. One other thing, if she says my "cousin" what she almost always means is girlfriend...romantic girlfriend.

If she calls you the next day, next week and says that she really needs to pay her rent..or something...Don't do it. She has already sized you up and has figured she can maniulate you and con you, and run game on you. If a girl calls and asks how your doing and if you need anything...welll she is just being a good saleswoman. But if she calls and its a sob story...Forget her, hang up, don't answer her calls, stay away..there are plenty of other girls who are drama free.

Tips...Don't give a tip unless you feel it was exceptional service. When you tip someone who gives you mediocore service your only telling her that she doing a great job when she isn't. Absolutely never give a tip if she asks for one...she conning you..don't fall for it.

Bring only the money your willing to spend, your ID, condoms, and cell phone. Leave your wallet locked in the car. Leave anything of value that could be stolen locked in your car. If she is coming to your hotel room...take your wallet and valuables and lock them in your car. Most escorts aren't thieves, but you shouldn't temp anyone either. Remember your dealing with a stranger..someone you know nothing about.

Friendships...BEWARE TREAD LIGHTLY...Most friendships with an escort fail. They fail because an escort is only going to use the friendship to either sell you more services, or get you to do things for free that she would normally have to pay for. Unless you have negotiated a deal, your not going to get anything except a thank you. I would strongly advise that you if you do negeotiate a deal that you get her services before you do anything for her. Remember if you agree to do something and there is no negotiation, you are dong it out of the kindness of your heart because she isn't going to give you any service after she has gotten what she wanted., regardless of what has been said or promised.

What to do if your have been scammed. The best thing you can do is go to your computer, go to Backpage.com and take out an ad. Don't be fooled, these escorts are only interested in the Money. It's the Money...the Money.. the Money. Don't delude yourself into thinking that it is anything more then the money no matter what she says or how she makes you feel. Girls who scam you think they are untouchable and that you are powerless to do anything to them. If you get ripped off or scammed then you need to tax her. You need to cut off her money. An ad on Backpage is only a couple dollars which is nothing if your scamed for $100 or more. Used the word Scam, or Fraud and the title of the girls ad to let other users of Backpage Escorts know not to patronize this girl. Use all of the phone numbers that you know she has or is associated with. If she uses an incall place...use the address. Hotel...the name and location of the hotel. Although backpage is really limited in the amount of words you can use, you can fit more information by not using spaces. Use - instead or _ or * Thats why the girls word their ads the way they do, to get everything to fit in the limited space Backpage gives them. I have placed fraud/scam ads. They work. First she or her girlfriends are going to call and complain. Believe me she knows who placed the ad because she knows who she just scammed. Don't bother answering, it means your ad is working and you can enjoy the fact that you were able to get a little justice. Guys have emailed me from my ads asking question and thanking me for alerting them. You don't have to respond, and when you write the ad you have the option not to receive emails. Although she is only going to lose money in the short term, she is going to miss out on some moeny. She will have to change her phone number or move. Fraud ads let the escorts know that this kind of conduct is not going to be tollerated by the people who respond to their ads. It also lets girls who are comtemplating placing an ad with the idea of conning people, that clients do have options when a girl cons them. Most girls do what they say and keep their agreements and provide a needed service that clients enjoy. But some girls look at guys, especially white guys, as tricks who can be maniulated and fooled cause they believe they are naive and easily conned.

One girl pissed me off so much, I got out my latex gloves, loaded paper from the middle of the pack into my printer, fired up my word processor and wrote an anonymous letter to the local police department in the area she operates in. I printed her ad and put it in the envelope with my complaint and mailed it to the police.

You can always threaten to or call the cops. I can tell you for a fact that 100% of these girls do not want it known publicly that they are an escort, and they certainly don't want the police involved. If she pisses you off enough it might be worth it to you to call the police. Your only going to get a misdemeanor. Most guys wouldn't do this...Although I would in a really bad situation...especially if she steals from you. In fact if she does steal from you, call the cops and don't let her leave. Have you heard about the story of Charlie Sheen being violent and "out of control" when he had an escort at a New York Hotel room. He was violent and out of control because she stole his very expensive watch. She locked herself in the bathroom and called the police. The cops searched her when she came out and didn't find his watch. Where do you think she put it? They didn't strip search her.

If the services you received were terrible and not worth what you spent, then take out a backpage ad and let the rest of us know. Tell us why it was terrible and why you feel cheated. The rest of us would really appreciate it and would avoid a girl like that. A girl who gives bad service should know she does. Alot of girls get into this thinking about the money...and not the service they give. Some girls don't care and want to rush you and try to get rid of you as fast as she can. I hate it when a girl stokes me really hard and fast thinking she can make me cum and get it over quick. All she ends up doing is ruffing up my little buddy and making me mad. Don't let a girl try to upsell you penetration or another girl after you have already paid for a BJ or some other service. Take out an ad and let her know that upselling ain't cool

Well I think that is enough to start, feel free to add something or some of your horror stories. Remember if you don't call a girl out on backpage for the shit she does, she is only going to do it again and again. Let her know that shit ain't cool. Take out a Backpage ad and make sure you put it in the escort section.

Remember what Charlie Sheen said, " Your not paying her for sex, Your paying her to leave when its over"

Be carefull...be safe

R.J.

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Old 09-26-2014, 10:32 AM   #2
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I thought this was really interesting to say the least.
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Old 09-26-2014, 11:48 AM   #3
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Thanks Lady Y .Great information and I know a lot of guys here shop on backpage( not me)and this is great info whither you use bp or not.
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:56 PM   #4
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What if the providers don't want to discuss anything over the phone
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Old 10-15-2014, 11:00 PM   #5
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Most girls won't discuss anything other than in person and if you meet her and start out with what will I get she is going to kick you out. Thats a hard one to answer. Maybe the guys can offer up some suggestions.
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Since I am sitting here at home with a massive sinus infection and nothing better to do, I'll take a stab......

This kind of info is going to become harder and harder to find. P411 has an announcement up stating that, in order to meet new Canadian law, they are going to stop allowing ladies to post "activities enjoyed in private." The Canadian law is based upon UN guidelines to prevent human trafficing, so expect similar future restrictions elsewhere. Possibly even here or TER.

We have just lived through the golden age of hobbying. But with increased crackdowns, providers discussing concerns about EBOLA & EV-D68, and a general downturn in the economy.....I believe our gilded age is about to end. I was fortunate enough to have places like ECCIE and TER and other local boards to do my research.

In regards to jdoan's question, RESEARCH IS THE KEY TO GETTING THE INFO YOU NEED. Right now on ECCIE and TER you have enough info to answer your question. Read the reviews. Read the ROS in the reviews. Visit the men's area and see who the problem ladies are. Then pick a lady, and just let the session flow. This is a very personal business, where YMMV is the one over-riding rule. I cannot and should not place a glistening ripe fruit into your outstretched hand. You have to climb the tree yourself and examine each apple carefully before you choose one, pluck it, and take a bite. Even then, there is always the possibility of getting a worm. Yes, you may end up wasting several hundred dollars on a bad encounter. If you can't afford that risk, you probably should not be playing the game.

I have had a wild time, have seen over 30 ladies in the last 4 years. Because I research, I have only had a few mediocre sessions and zero bad ones. I have 25 oks on P411, and to be truthful, if I just put those 25 gals on rotation, that is enough screwing to keep me happy for the rest of my life.

But out of those 25, there are several ladies that I've discovered I actually LIKE and RESPECT. That is enough that they will get the lions share of my business in the future. And meeting new gals is going to become more dangerous & difficult.
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Old 10-16-2014, 07:39 AM   #7
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Well said Grits
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My story is very similar to grits.Been hobbying for about 10 years but my output has doubled when I found eccie and p411.Before that just used sites like craig's list,backpage,eros,TER,grainbe lt,and numerous other sites.First of all,its pretty rare any girl on backpage you'll be able to find a review on so your taking big chance using it.Grainbelt is a great source but info is very limited to our local area.TER I've used a lot but it is limited to the amount of info you can get unless you are a vip member.Writing reviews will get you 2 weeks vip where as eccie you get 6 weeks of premium access.TER is a great source but I'm using it less because I find more reviews on eccie for providers and don't have the time to write reviews for both to keep my PA or VIP access current.I paid a lot of dues before I found eccie and p411 and have been lucky to have never been robbed,busted,or scammed out of any money.Just a lot of sub par dates by ads that were anything but accurate.
My answer to jdoan's question is quite obvious.Stay away from backpage.See Lady Y and Dallas to get your passport for screening purposes and the ride of a lifetime.Then join p411 and start building your ok's for screening.Read and write reviews and be as honest as possible when you write one.Bad service needs to be reported.Been a lot of discussions about this topic(NCNS) and in my opinion if its someone you see a lot and truly like it should be handled with a pm between the the two parties before going public.
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I have to agree with your guys on seeing the verified ladies. Nothing like planning a date in advance. However my availability schedule to party is random and often last minute notice late night, limiting my options. I try to still watch BP and Sipsap and do homework ahead of time cause I like to have a few options open if an opportunity arises.
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Thanks for the advice guys
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Thanks for posting this, I was nodding my head reading along due to an experience I had with a BP lady earlier this summer. There were at least four mistakes I made listed in the article. All I lost was my cash on bad service, so it could've been worse.

The worst part is the next day I saw a review posted about one of the traveling ladies I'd been wanting to see was in town the same day I was wasting my time/$!
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Lady Y... I have ALWAYS wanted to ask you about this very topic. Why in GOD'S name would any body take a chance on an unknown? The only reason why I have not talked with you about this is after our sessions, I have completely forgot the English language and cannot function for at least three days!!
I understand that fantastic ladies like you and Sara post there, but you are all KNOWN!
I am sorry, but my ignorance is complete!
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Thanks guys.
I started out on BP and will continue to advertise there, there are a lot of clients that are not on here or other sites, only bp.
I don't think a lot of men truly understand what can go wrong or they think that won't happen to me. Not quit sure. Maybe they want to be caught!
Bp is not a bad place to find ladies you just have to be careful and research them like we screen you.
Most all the ladies on these sites started on BP and if it weren't for the gentlemen that took the chance with us we may not be on here.
We all take risks, its just a matter of how much risk do you want to take!
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Ooh baby ooh.
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I went to pour the honey but it seemed like forever as it first reached the edge of the glass spout then dropped over in a thin line to her ass. Her cheeks quivered at the touch.
Her ankles where held tight of course. The honey glistened as it flowed along her crevice. She must have known I wanted to see her thrust so. I added a sharp smack to her ass with the whip and she shook with joy as she cried out to her love. Her joy. I leaned to her face to offer relief. She gritted her teeth and gripped the restraints hard and gives me the look. "Don't be a pussy she says." Her eyes then open. They say "TY, and I love you baby". I regrip my tools and I say. ok baby.
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