Oops - some of the voter fraud the leftists want you to pretend does not exist

[berryberry]

NEW: Mark Wingate, a Fulton County Elections Board member, testifies that he voted against certifying the 2020 election because the county did not verify the signatures on 147,000 mail-in ballots.

"I asked what did we do for signature verification? And the comment I got back frankly floored me, 'We didn't do any.'"

Additionally, the county could not provide any chain of custody documentation or surveillance footage for mail-in ballots or ballot drop boxes.

"I and other board members had requested that we obtain the chain of custody documentation from the department and none of that was ever delivered."

"There was never any surveillance tape, an inch of footage delivered to the board."

He also says there were problems with the voter registration rolls that still exist in Fulton County.

[bambino]

Nothing to see here.

[berryberry]

Yeah, imagine that - 147,000 votes where they just ignored their own rules on signature verification

Nor any any chain of custody documentation or surveillance footage for mail-in ballots or ballot drop boxes.

Yet leftists keep trying to say there was no voter fraud while the evidence like this shows otherwise

[Salty Again]

... GA corruption and voter fraud surely reigns Supreme!
We've been sayin' for years that Fulton County didn't
have proper signature verification... And, of course
that they mis-counted voting numbers for Biden.

A mate of mine - Joe Rossi - surely pointed that FACT out
to election officials... Some of this and Berry's claim
is covered in me award-winning GA Election threads.

... Oh, they have - or, I should say "Had" surveillance footage,
but some of it appears to be "lost"...

#### Salty

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

A mate of mine - Joe Rossi - surely pointed that FACT out
to election officials...

#### Salty

I didn't realize you knew Joe personally as buddy!? Anyway, the GA courts will surely get to the bottom of this as they are run by a Republican party where they hold all the offices associated to election officials. Certainly you have faith in those offices for finding the facts and holding accountable, those who would try to distort voting in ANY capacity!

Is that not correct? If not, why wouldn't they?

[Salty Again]

... They haven't gotten to the bottom of it because the GA
Secretary of the State there - Brad Raffensperger is almost
as corrupt as the Fulton County officials... Raffensperger,
who is a Republican, has stalled efforts of ballot recounting
and vote certifications checking.

You, of course, already are aware of some o' this.
GA has been rife with Voting fraud issues, as Berry has mentioned.

#### Salty

[berryberry]

Indeed Salty, indeed.

And the 147,000 votes that had NO signature verification and the lack of drop box surveillance videos are just two of the many issues with the vote in Georgia as shown here

Georgia 2020 Trust Deficit
-Forensic audit blocked
-100 drop boxes lack surveillance videos
-20K ballot images - vanished
-13 election routers - vanished
-10 Dominion tabulators - vanished
-150K locked up counterfeit ballots
-147K Fulton Cty Mail-ballot signatures unverified

[Yssup Rider]

Where can we view the source of those numbers and of Mr. Wingate?

Seems the links were conveniently left off.

If you don’t trust the Republican Party to get its shit together after three plus years of investigations and searches, who do you trust?

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Where can we view the source of those numbers and of Mr. Wingate?

Seems the links were conveniently left off.

If you don’t trust the Republican Party to get its shit together after three plus years of investigations and searches, who do you trust?

I'm shocked that the GOP has 'anyone' on their side who is corrupt.{Gasp}

Maybe the term corrupt could mean - 'doesn't do what dear leader wants them to do'? If there is ANY proof of corruption surely the legal minds who spearhead the GOP's attempts to protect one person in all these court filings, would be able to uncover those attempts and easily prove them!

If they cannot- why ?? Aren't there facts to back up those allegations?

Certainly those are so easily alleged, there must also certainly be a reason and facts to back them up?!

Perhaps they are missing cause they were stolen- just like the supposed steeling of an election!?

[Spain2323]

Imagine 4 years, hundreds of millions spent on recounts, 49 judges and hundreds of thousands of people all across the country and NO ONE found evidence of wide spread voter fraud?

Here's a history lesson for you rightist!

There hasn't been a successful Republican administration since Eisenhower!!

Reagan and Bush quadrupled the national debt in 12 years. It took the USA 203 years to accumulate 908 billion in debt.

It took Reagan and Bush 12 years to quadruple it. Including the savings and loan crises, the black Monday 1987 Market crash, the Friday the 13th 1989 mini market crash and the 1992 recession!

Then came Clinton. A man who added 1.2 trillion to the national debt in 8 years and left the country with a budget surplus.

Of course another Republican comes along, one who lost the popular vote 8 might add, and of course everything goes to shit again!

By 9/10/2001 Donald Rumsfeld announces the loss of 2.3 trillion dollars in American transactions! Less then 24 hours later planes crash into the twin Towers and the Pentagon due to ignored intelligence.

This then of course leads to the post 9/11 economic crisis, GWB failed steel tariffs (taking after Reagan's failed steel policies) and later to the 2007/08 Housing/financial industry collapse.

401ks lost up to 80% of their value, millions of Sr citizens lost their pensions and life savings, a total of 2 trillion dollars in American transactions wealth lost, 50 million people lost their homes and 80 sovereign nations fall into economic dispair!

The national debt DOUBLED during the GWB administration and the country was left in economic shambles!

Obama gets elected! It takes 4 years and 5 trillion dollars to stabilize the economy both here and globally!

In his 2nd term unemployment dropped by almost 70%, inflation was at a record low, illegal immigration declined from its 2007 peak to the lowest in decades and the economy is stable!

Donald Traitor Chump, 9 time bankrupt businessman, and 6 time convicted of fraud comes along!

What does he do? Tax cuts for wealth corporations and the top 10% of Americans!

I guess Corperations who's profits had increased by 1500-3000% over the previous 20 years needed more breaks and hand outs!

This of course has dire consequences like every other time trickle down economics/Horse and Sparrow economics has been implemented since the 1920's.

Over the next 4 years 12 US Petroleum refineries shut down operations. The US agricultural industry loses 25% of their annual revenue, the US steel industry loses up to 33% of their annual revenue and the US transportation industry suffers massive issues in 2019!

Let's not forget the FACT Illegal immigration after declining for 8 str8 years begins to trend up again! From year end 2017 to year end 2019 illegal immigration more then DOUBLES! 1,875,841 Migrants come to the Southern border in 2019. This doesn't include the "Got aways" the true beginning of the border crisis!

Then 2020 comes along and we all saw how well that worked out. 22 million jobs lost, 800,000 businesses closed, unemployment hits 14.7%,black unemployment hits 16.8%, and US oil falls to $-37 a barrel! Not to mention the eviction crisis and the USA ranking #1 in Covid deaths, cases and transmission globally!

2020 ended as the worst economic year in US history and the nation Debt had increased by 39% in just 4 short years!

Biden inherited a country in the midst of a economic recession, a global pandemic, a global supply chain shortage, global oil shortage, an. Eviction crisis, a labor shortage due to millions of part time workers being handed $2400 a month by the Trump administration, a border crisis and the largest separation of wealth in 100 years!

That's a hell of a lot for any president to inherit!

No other president in US history has every inherited so many issues!

Some how and it's absolutely mind-blowing, Biden resolved the global supply chain shortage, the global Oil shortage, the global inflation crisis, and led America to the best pandemic recovery of any country in the world!

Unemployment has been below 4% for the longest period of time since Vietnam. Inflation is down to 3.1%, the stock market has set several record closes, the S&P 500 has record several record weeks, companies like Nvidia, Super micro computers, Consol Energy, AMD and many others stocks skyrocket after the Chips and science act is signed.

A total of 14.8 million jobs were added, doubling even Trump's best months and wages for the bottom 40% have increased for the first time in years!

I can't leave the house without the roads and stores being packed everywhere! Even fast food places and pizza shops have huge lines. People are spending money at a record high on NON NECESSITIES!

My personal financials have done extremely well. Between the CDs, Baird accounts and Merrill Lynch accounts I'm making over $60,000 a year!

Now back to the whole election issue!

Fun fact.

5 times in the history of the USA has a presidential candidate lost the popular vote yet won the election!

It's happened 4 times since the beginning of the two party Democrat/Republican system.

In ALL 4 occasions it was a Republican candidate who lost the popular vote yet won the Electoral college!! Twice in the last 25 years. GWB and Donald Traitor Trump!

Between those two president the US national debt doubled and increased by 39% . Both of those administrations inherited a healthy stable economy!

Here's a few more fun facts for you rightist!

Republicans control 16 of the top 20 states with the highest poverty rates!

Republicans control 9 of the top 10.states with the most uninsured citizens.

8 of the top 10 states with the highest violent crime rates per capita.

8 of the top 10 states with the lowest median income.

7 of the top 10 states with the lowest education rates

And 8 of the top 10 states with the most people on government assistance.

Here in Pennsylvania Republicans have controlled the state Senate 29 of 31 years and the state house 24 of last 31 years. Republicans controlled all 3 branches 14 of the last 31 years. Democrats 1 of the last 31 years!

So if you have issues with how the state has been run, be sure to contact you full time state legislature that's been controlled by the Republicans for the majority of the past 31 years!

You know what the problem is with Right wing nut jobs?? They constantly blame everyone else for the problems and NEVER take responsibility for the failed multiple failed Republican Administrations!

There's Rhetoric, propaganda and FACTS! The FACTS hurt don't they!

So by my guest and vote Republican! Just don't cry when the country falls into economic dispair. Especially considering virtually every major market collapse going back to the 1929 crash happened shortly AFTER Trickle down economics was implemented!

[chizzy]

I don't think I have ever seen a post with as much bullshit incorrect and misleading horseshit as I just read......

[Dr-epg]

Let’s keep comments on the threads topic please

[1#Ratt]

Originally Posted by chizzy

I don't think I have ever seen a post with as much bullshit incorrect and misleading horseshit as I just read......

Do tell, please point these out.

[eyecu2]

Widespread election fraud claims by Republicans don’t match the evidence.

So, where’s the fraud?

Link: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/w...-the-evidence/
The Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank, has been monitoring election fraud cases state by state. Election fraud covers a range of activities — such as registering someone to vote and forging their signature, filling out an absentee ballot for someone who has died or moved away, voting while ineligible, or pretending to be someone else at the polling place and voting. They find that there nationally have been 1,465 proven cases of election fraud — 1,264 of these resulted in criminal prosecutions and the remainder resulted in civil prosecutions, diversion programs, judicial findings, or official findings.

These may sound like big numbers, however, they must be examined in context. The findings encompass more than a decade of data during which, nationally, hundreds of millions of votes have been cast. For instance, in Texas, Heritage found 103 cases of confirmed election fraud. However, those 103 ranged from 2005 to 2022 during which time over 107 million ballots were cast. There were 11 million ballots cast in the 2020 presidential election alone. The fraud in Texas amounted to 0.000096% of all ballots cast — hardly evidence of a fundamentally corrupt system.

Another statistical analysis is found below:
No evidence for systematic voter fraud: A guide to statistical claims about the 2020 election

And yet another from a firm that DJT had hired himself comes to the same conlcusion: Voter data expert hired by Trump campaign says 2020 election was NOT stolen.

link below.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...on-not-stolen/

So when we say that there is voter fraud- nobody has ever claimed that there was ZERO fraud, but rather nothing that would denote or imply that it was systemic or organized etc. Or that it was statistically or in volume that would have had either an impact or change the outcome of the election. Nothing has proven that to be the case in any state or in any county as alleged by the GOP or DJT, or any representative of the conservative talking heads.

It's just un-fathomable to them, that there is a LARGE population who don't like either DJT or the values that he represents. I laugh when I wrote the word values, as I don't think he has a single value that wasn't given to him as a talking point in order for him to use to get into office.

Show us proof that there is fraud; not a meme, not a tiktok, or X feed, or another derogatory joe blow post that is based on feelings, vs. facts.

I'd be more than happy to concede that there is fraud when you produce those facts.

[1#Ratt]

Originally Posted by Spain2323

Imagine 4 years, hundreds of millions spent on recounts, 49 judges and hundreds of thousands of people all across the country and NO ONE found evidence of wide spread voter fraud?

Here's a history lesson for you rightist!

There hasn't been a successful Republican administration since Eisenhower!!

Reagan and Bush quadrupled the national debt in 12 years. It took the USA 203 years to accumulate 908 billion in debt.

It took Reagan and Bush 12 years to quadruple it. Including the savings and loan crises, the black Monday 1987 Market crash, the Friday the 13th 1989 mini market crash and the 1992 recession!

Then came Clinton. A man who added 1.2 trillion to the national debt in 8 years and left the country with a budget surplus.

Of course another Republican comes along, one who lost the popular vote 8 might add, and of course everything goes to shit again!

By 9/10/2001 Donald Rumsfeld announces the loss of 2.3 trillion dollars in American transactions! Less then 24 hours later planes crash into the twin Towers and the Pentagon due to ignored intelligence.

This then of course leads to the post 9/11 economic crisis, GWB failed steel tariffs (taking after Reagan's failed steel policies) and later to the 2007/08 Housing/financial industry collapse.

401ks lost up to 80% of their value, millions of Sr citizens lost their pensions and life savings, a total of 2 trillion dollars in American transactions wealth lost, 50 million people lost their homes and 80 sovereign nations fall into economic dispair!

The national debt DOUBLED during the GWB administration and the country was left in economic shambles!

Obama gets elected! It takes 4 years and 5 trillion dollars to stabilize the economy both here and globally!

In his 2nd term unemployment dropped by almost 70%, inflation was at a record low, illegal immigration declined from its 2007 peak to the lowest in decades and the economy is stable!

Donald Traitor Chump, 9 time bankrupt businessman, and 6 time convicted of fraud comes along!

What does he do? Tax cuts for wealth corporations and the top 10% of Americans!

I guess Corperations who's profits had increased by 1500-3000% over the previous 20 years needed more breaks and hand outs!

This of course has dire consequences like every other time trickle down economics/Horse and Sparrow economics has been implemented since the 1920's.

Over the next 4 years 12 US Petroleum refineries shut down operations. The US agricultural industry loses 25% of their annual revenue, the US steel industry loses up to 33% of their annual revenue and the US transportation industry suffers massive issues in 2019!

Let's not forget the FACT Illegal immigration after declining for 8 str8 years begins to trend up again! From year end 2017 to year end 2019 illegal immigration more then DOUBLES! 1,875,841 Migrants come to the Southern border in 2019. This doesn't include the "Got aways" the true beginning of the border crisis!

Then 2020 comes along and we all saw how well that worked out. 22 million jobs lost, 800,000 businesses closed, unemployment hits 14.7%,black unemployment hits 16.8%, and US oil falls to $-37 a barrel! Not to mention the eviction crisis and the USA ranking #1 in Covid deaths, cases and transmission globally!

2020 ended as the worst economic year in US history and the nation Debt had increased by 39% in just 4 short years!

Biden inherited a country in the midst of a economic recession, a global pandemic, a global supply chain shortage, global oil shortage, an. Eviction crisis, a labor shortage due to millions of part time workers being handed $2400 a month by the Trump administration, a border crisis and the largest separation of wealth in 100 years!

That's a hell of a lot for any president to inherit!

No other president in US history has every inherited so many issues!

Some how and it's absolutely mind-blowing, Biden resolved the global supply chain shortage, the global Oil shortage, the global inflation crisis, and led America to the best pandemic recovery of any country in the world!

Unemployment has been below 4% for the longest period of time since Vietnam. Inflation is down to 3.1%, the stock market has set several record closes, the S&P 500 has record several record weeks, companies like Nvidia, Super micro computers, Consol Energy, AMD and many others stocks skyrocket after the Chips and science act is signed.

A total of 14.8 million jobs were added, doubling even Trump's best months and wages for the bottom 40% have increased for the first time in years!

I can't leave the house without the roads and stores being packed everywhere! Even fast food places and pizza shops have huge lines. People are spending money at a record high on NON NECESSITIES!

My personal financials have done extremely well. Between the CDs, Baird accounts and Merrill Lynch accounts I'm making over $60,000 a year!

Now back to the whole election issue!

Fun fact.

5 times in the history of the USA has a presidential candidate lost the popular vote yet won the election!

It's happened 4 times since the beginning of the two party Democrat/Republican system.

In ALL 4 occasions it was a Republican candidate who lost the popular vote yet won the Electoral college!! Twice in the last 25 years. GWB and Donald Traitor Trump!

Between those two president the US national debt doubled and increased by 39% . Both of those administrations inherited a healthy stable economy!

Here's a few more fun facts for you rightist!

Republicans control 16 of the top 20 states with the highest poverty rates!

Republicans control 9 of the top 10.states with the most uninsured citizens.

8 of the top 10 states with the highest violent crime rates per capita.

8 of the top 10 states with the lowest median income.

7 of the top 10 states with the lowest education rates

And 8 of the top 10 states with the most people on government assistance.

Here in Pennsylvania Republicans have controlled the state Senate 29 of 31 years and the state house 24 of last 31 years. Republicans controlled all 3 branches 14 of the last 31 years. Democrats 1 of the last 31 years!

So if you have issues with how the state has been run, be sure to contact you full time state legislature that's been controlled by the Republicans for the majority of the past 31 years!

You know what the problem is with Right wing nut jobs?? They constantly blame everyone else for the problems and NEVER take responsibility for the failed multiple failed Republican Administrations!

There's Rhetoric, propaganda and FACTS! The FACTS hurt don't they!

So by my guest and vote Republican! Just don't cry when the country falls into economic dispair. Especially considering virtually every major market collapse going back to the 1929 crash happened shortly AFTER Trickle down economics was implemented!

As requested by others for other post please provide proof for these statements.