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12-20-2019, 05:13 PM
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Man sentenced to 16 years in prison for burning stolen LGBT flag outside of a strip club
yes, this happened in the USA. appalling. if this is the new world of political correctness "crimes" FUCK THAT!
at best this is petty theft and creating a public nuisance. you would think this will not stand up on appeal.
Man sentenced to 16 years in prison for burning stolen LGBT flag outside of a strip club
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-sente...152403922.html
A man has been sentenced to 16 years in prison for setting fire to a church LGBTQ flag, after a jury found him guilty on several charges.
Adolfo Martinez from Iowa was convicted in Ames last month on hate crime charges — a class “D” felony in the state — as well as third-degree harassment and reckless use of fire.
The incident took place early on 11 June, when police say Martinez approached the United Church of Christ in Ames, and then burned it outside of the Dangerous Curves Gentleman’s Club, a strip club.
Martinez, police say, later admitted to police that he took the flag and burned it. He used lighter fluid, he said, and a common lighter.
The hate crime charges were added by Story County attorney Jessica Reynolds who said the crime was carried out against the property because of “what it represents as far as sexual orientation.”
He was convicted of the crimes in November.
He was sentenced to 15 years in prison for the hate crime of arson, and another year for the reckless use of explosives of fire. He also received a 30 day sentence for harassment.
Ms Reynolds told USA Todaythat Martinez is the first person to be convicted of a hate crime in the county.
The June burning of the flag came just weeks before the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall riots, which are credited as a key starting moment for the gay pride movement in the United States.
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12-20-2019, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
yes, this happened in the USA. appalling. if this is the new world of political correctness "crimes" FUCK THAT!
at best this is petty theft and creating a public nuisance. you would think this will not stand up on appeal.
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If I took your rebellious Confederate flag and burned it, would you not, at the least, consider it theft and destruction of property? At worst it signals an intentional threat.
You're stupid. For even crying about this in here. You drunk again?
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12-20-2019, 05:28 PM
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16 years!!?
in Van Morrison's song, "Blue money", he has a line that says "light up a Fag", of course that was 1970, before the LGBT Fag Community took power, a guy can't even light up a Fag flag to express himself. remember the left-winger who burned the Flag near city hall, during the 1984 Republican Convention? the libtards rallied, and his crime of burning the US flag was overturned, freedom of speech, but a Christian can't burn Faggot flags, 16 years??
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12-20-2019, 05:35 PM
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Complete idiocy. These same folks can steal an American flag from a business or local govt. building. And burn it on video and claim first amendment rights?? Double standard here! Pc culture at its best!
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12-20-2019, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by winn dixie
Complete idiocy. These same folks can steal an American flag from a business or local govt. building. And burn it on video and claim first amendment rights?? Double standard here! Pc culture at its best!
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insane! Martinez should appeal, and escape to a Sanctuary city. what would the PC mob do then? the Mexican would outsmart them!
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12-20-2019, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by eccieuser9500
If I took your rebellious Confederate flag and burned it, would you not, at the least, consider it theft and destruction of property? At worst it signals an intentional threat.
You're stupid. For even crying about this in here. You drunk again?
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my flag is this flag, u fag.
i said in my original post .. petty theft. are you posting stupid again?
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12-20-2019, 06:05 PM
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12-20-2019, 06:06 PM
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Seems excessive to me...unless he burned a lesbian stripper too!
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12-20-2019, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Chung Tran
16 years!!?
in Van Morrison's song, "Blue money", he has a line that says "light up a Fag", of course that was 1970, before the LGBT Fag Community took power, a guy can't even light up a Fag flag to express himself. remember the left-winger who burned the Flag near city hall, during the 1984 Republican Convention? the libtards rallied, and his crime of burning the US flag was overturned, freedom of speech, but a Christian can't burn Faggot flags, 16 years??
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Fag is (was?) British slang for cigarette, but I think you knew that.
The sentence is ridiculous. I think hate crimes in general are ridiculous, because what you're really criminalizing is thought. The crimws should be theft, arson, vandalism. His motive for committing them is, if not insignificant, far less important than what the sentence suggests.
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12-20-2019, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by papadee
Fag is (was?) British slang for cigarette, but I think you knew that.
The sentence is ridiculous. I think hate crimes in general are ridiculous, because what you're really criminalizing is thought. The crimws should be theft, arson, vandalism. His motive for committing them is, if not insignificant, far less important than what the sentence suggests.
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I know you are level headed but please remember... https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2687135
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12-20-2019, 07:09 PM
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i said in my original post .. petty theft. are you posting stupid again?
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It wasn't petty. It was symbolic.
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12-20-2019, 07:21 PM
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It wasn't petty. It was symbolic.
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You should put some extra cheese on your Nadler Burger, phat...
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12-20-2019, 07:37 PM
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It wasn't petty. It was symbolic.
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So now there is punishment for symbolism in America, and Americans like you are proud of it.
Orwell was only a bit off on time. Perhaps a few people ought to resist this fascism.
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12-20-2019, 07:40 PM
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You should put some extra cheese on your Nadler Burger, phat...
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12-20-2019, 07:45 PM
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So now there is punishment for symbolism in America, and Americans like you are proud of it.
Orwell was only a bit off on time. Perhaps a few people ought to resist this fascism.
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What the hell do you understand I was talking about when I wrote symbolic? All flags are, by definition, symbols. The flag was sybolic. The burning was a veiled threat. You're just another simple conspiracy theorist looking for a reason to cry like oeb11. 'sum bitches.
Do you feel like victims?
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