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Old 12-28-2023, 09:49 AM   #1
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Default Trump kept the cross-fire hurricane binder

Trump has proven he is unfit to be president. He has stolen classified documents, torn some up and flushed them down the toilet, and as we recently learned, stolen the cross-fire hurricane binder. Because he thought the binder had info to cover his ass.
If any sheets surface from the binder, trump should go to prison.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/15/u...al-russia.html
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Old 12-28-2023, 09:58 AM   #2
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Trump has proven he is unfit to be president. He has stolen classified documents, torn some up and flushed them down the toilet, and as we recently learned, stolen the cross-fire hurricane binder. Because he thought the binder had info to cover his ass.
If any sheets surface from the binder, trump should go to prison.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/15/u...al-russia.html
This is the case against Trump that is a slam-dunk in my opinion.
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Old 12-28-2023, 11:31 AM   #3
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Old 12-28-2023, 04:41 PM   #4
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Trump has proven he is unfit to be president. He has stolen classified documents, torn some up and flushed them down the toilet, and as we recently learned, stolen the cross-fire hurricane binder. Because he thought the binder had info to cover his ass.
If any sheets surface from the binder, trump should go to prison.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/15/u...al-russia.html
... Which is it? ... Did Trump keep the binder, or did
He steal it? ... And is this opinion - or do you have proof??

Did Trump claim to have this binder that you mention??
Maybe Biden has it.

And IF the thing was de-classified - why does it matter??

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Old 12-28-2023, 05:03 PM   #5
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Any rebuttal, other than two stupid GIFs? This is what I mean when I say you dorks don't know how to play the game.

Links. "Evidence". Back up information by source. Then we debate the source. Stop being a dumb-ass. It's okay though, I was there where you are now.

You have to start somewhere. Right? (Or left?)


Your GIF game is strong, I sense. Mid to late 20's I guess. Your profile has started.
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Old 12-28-2023, 05:07 PM   #6
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... Which is it? ... Did Trump keep the binder, or did
He steal it? ... And is this opinion - or do you have proof??

Did Trump claim to have this binder that you mention??
Maybe Biden has it.

And IF the thing was de-classified - why does it matter??

#### Salty
No, he had Eric steal it for him! it isnt who took it, but who unlawfully had it in his chubby little hands, IF in fact gravity truely-exists.

lolling!

You'll see ... just wait!
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Old 12-28-2023, 06:38 PM   #7
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Federal indictment on classified documents charges in Florida
Trump is accused of keeping classified documents after leaving the White House and storing them "in various locations at The Mar-a-Lago Club including in a ballroom, a bathroom and shower, an office space, his bedroom, and a storage room," according to the indictment. He is also accused of a "scheme to conceal" that he had kept those documents. He denies wrongdoing.

Where: U.S. district court, Fort Pierce, Florida


Judge: U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon

Lead prosecutor: Special counsel Jack Smith

Lead defense attorneys: Todd Blanche, Christopher Kise

Co-defendants: Walt Nauta, an aide to Trump, and Carlos De Oliveira, a property manager at Mar-a-Lago

Indicted: June 8, 2023; superseding indictment returned July 27, 2023

Indictment Text: Read here

Charges: 40 counts in all, including:

32 counts of unlawful retention of national defense information;
One count of conspiracy to obstruct justice;
One count of withholding a document or record;
One count of corruptly concealing a document or record
One count of concealing a document in a federal investigation
One count of scheme to conceal
One count of false statements and representations
One count of altering, destroying, mutilating or concealing an object
One count of corruptly altering, destroying, mutilating or concealing a document, record or other object
Arraigned: June 13, 2023; Aug. 10, 2023

Guilty on most, if not all, charges. The only chance Trump has is the judge was appointed by him and has made decisions in the past in his favor.
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Old 12-28-2023, 09:20 PM   #8
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Keeping it amounts to stealing it. He was responsible for it.

You completely miss the point and show you haven't been paying attention.

Trump is responsible for all presidential materials. Did he keep or steal the binder? How the fuck would I know? I know it doesn't matter.
What I do know is that he failed to turn it over to the National Archives. As required by law.

Something else I know is that you're a slow learner. After all the ruckus raised about trump not turning over all the documents and you don't see the similar circumstances.
Except this may be worse. Mr. Blackman may know more but trump LOST the binder. Which IMO, shows a violation of law which covers his negligent mishandling or caring for the document.

Moot point for the majority of your questions and bullshit bringing Biden into the conversation. Trump is responsible for the safety and security of the binder.

Everyone knows trump stole it. Who else had access? Who else could walk out with it? Who else would want it?
Add in trump is narcistic liar who likes "trophies" who tried, on multiple occasions, tried to keep documents he had failed to return.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/09/u...h=login-google


From the link.

What We Learned From the Trump Indictment

"The indictment said the former president had illegally kept documents concerning “United States nuclear programs; potential vulnerabilities of the United States and its allies to military attack; and plans for possible retaliation in response to a foreign attack.”

Again, just because you don't understand the significance of the theft doesn't make it minor. It proves you don't understand.

The idea anyone would vote for an unpatriotic scumbag who has so many character flaws he couldn't be more unfit for office.


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... Which is it? ... Did Trump keep the binder, or did
He steal it? ... And is this opinion - or do you have proof??

Did Trump claim to have this binder that you mention??
Maybe Biden has it.

And IF the thing was de-classified - why does it matter??

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Old 12-28-2023, 09:22 PM   #9
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Any rebuttal, other than two stupid GIFs? This is what I mean when I say you dorks don't know how to play the game.

Links. "Evidence". Back up information by source. Then we debate the source. Stop being a dumb-ass. It's okay though, I was there where you are now.

You have to start somewhere. Right? (Or left?)


Your GIF game is strong, I sense. Mid to late 20's I guess. Your profile has started.
NYT as a source



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Old 12-28-2023, 09:27 PM   #10
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Federal indictment on classified documents charges in Florida
Trump is accused of keeping classified documents after leaving the White House and storing them "in various locations at The Mar-a-Lago Club including in a ballroom, a bathroom and shower, an office space, his bedroom, and a storage room," according to the indictment. He is also accused of a "scheme to conceal" that he had kept those documents. He denies wrongdoing.

Where: U.S. district court, Fort Pierce, Florida


Judge: U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon

Lead prosecutor: Special counsel Jack Smith

Lead defense attorneys: Todd Blanche, Christopher Kise

Co-defendants: Walt Nauta, an aide to Trump, and Carlos De Oliveira, a property manager at Mar-a-Lago

Indicted: June 8, 2023; superseding indictment returned July 27, 2023

Indictment Text: Read here

Charges: 40 counts in all, including:

32 counts of unlawful retention of national defense information;
One count of conspiracy to obstruct justice;
One count of withholding a document or record;
One count of corruptly concealing a document or record
One count of concealing a document in a federal investigation
One count of scheme to conceal
One count of false statements and representations
One count of altering, destroying, mutilating or concealing an object
One count of corruptly altering, destroying, mutilating or concealing a document, record or other object
Arraigned: June 13, 2023; Aug. 10, 2023

Guilty on most, if not all, charges. The only chance Trump has is the judge was appointed by him and has made decisions in the past in his favor.
They got Melania's panties as well....
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Old 12-28-2023, 10:38 PM   #11
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Keeping it amounts to stealing it. He was responsible for it.

You completely miss the point and show you haven't been paying attention.

Trump is responsible for all presidential materials. Did he keep or steal the binder? How the fuck would I know? I know it doesn't matter.
What I do know is that he failed to turn it over to the National Archives. As required by law.

Something else I know is that you're a slow learner. After all the ruckus raised about trump not turning over all the documents and you don't see the similar circumstances.
Except this may be worse. Mr. Blackman may know more but trump LOST the binder. Which IMO, shows a violation of law which covers his negligent mishandling or caring for the document.

Moot point for the majority of your questions and bullshit bringing Biden into the conversation. Trump is responsible for the safety and security of the binder.

Everyone knows trump stole it. Who else had access? Who else could walk out with it? Who else would want it?
Add in trump is narcistic liar who likes "trophies" who tried, on multiple occasions, tried to keep documents he had failed to return.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/09/u...h=login-google


From the link.

What We Learned From the Trump Indictment

"The indictment said the former president had illegally kept documents concerning “United States nuclear programs; potential vulnerabilities of the United States and its allies to military attack; and plans for possible retaliation in response to a foreign attack.”

Again, just because you don't understand the significance of the theft doesn't make it minor. It proves you don't understand.

The idea anyone would vote for an unpatriotic scumbag who has so many character flaws he couldn't be more unfit for office.
... All your insults aside - WHERE'S the binder??

And your proof that Trump has it. ...

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At least you admit you don't know anything about it.
We'll wait for real, non-made up trumpy bullshit.

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... Which is it? ... Did Trump keep the binder, or did
He steal it? ... And is this opinion - or do you have proof??

Did Trump claim to have this binder that you mention??
Maybe Biden has it.

And IF the thing was de-classified - why does it matter??

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Old 01-10-2024, 09:43 AM   #14
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Right you are, tigbitties.
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lolling!
The NY Times has won 132 pulitzer prizes since 1918.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...New_York_Times

They are a hell of a lot more trustworthy than about any other journalistic platform in the world.
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