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Old 10-01-2015, 09:20 PM   #1
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Default Putin schools Obama again

Don't get me wrong...Putin is a commie asshole. But once again we are seeing a teenager being out maneuvered by a ruthless Kremlin goon.

The Obama/Clinton/Kerry foreign policy has been a disaster.

So much for leading from behind and letting the international community fix the worlds problems. I bet the Iranians and Russkies are have a good laugh at the fools they have made of this administration. This would have never happened if we had a leader that knew and understood enemy identification. So much for the politics of cut and run.

You Dems are pussies.
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Old 10-01-2015, 09:26 PM   #2
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Old 10-01-2015, 09:41 PM   #3
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No reacharound for Obama!
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Old 10-01-2015, 10:15 PM   #4
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Obama, Clinton, and Rice. The perfect combination of naïveté combined with pure stupidity.
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Old 10-01-2015, 10:36 PM   #5
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Another wing nut circle jerk.
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Old 10-01-2015, 10:57 PM   #6
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Another wing nut circle jerk.
Hey small dick you sure you're not a liberal you seem to know all the slang they use when referring to people on the right, and they need a pivot man
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I remember the good old day's when we had a president with balls. 7 years seems like such a long time... fuckers




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Hey small dick you sure you're not a liberal you seem to know all the slang they use when referring to people on the right, and they need a pivot man
You are the pivot man on this circle jerk gary, I pick up the slang reading the crap you cocksuckers post.
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I remember the good old day's when we had a president with balls. 7 years seems like such a long time... fuckers




Unless things change the next one won't have any balls either, literally.
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Unless things change the next one won't have any balls either, literally.
Looks can be deceiving.
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You're about as welcome around here as a turd in a hot tub.

Small dick? That's seriously the best you got, you fucking cock gobbler? We all know you got a small dick. We can ask any of the poor whoooores who were unfortunate enough to get paired up with you. They'll tell us all about your button dick
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Old 10-02-2015, 01:13 AM   #12
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An Unteachable President


For Obama, it isn’t the man in the arena who counts. It’s the speaker on the stage.


By BRET STEPHENS
Sept. 28, 2015 8:10 p.m. ET

Barack Obama told the U.N.’s General Assembly on Monday he’s concerned that “dangerous currents risk pulling us back into a darker, more disordered world.” It’s nice of the president to notice, just don’t expect him to do much about it.

Recall that it wasn’t long ago that Mr. Obama took a sunnier view of world affairs. The tide of war was receding. Al Qaeda was on a path to defeat. ISIS was “a jayvee team” in “Lakers uniforms.” Iraq was an Obama administration success story. Bashar Assad’s days were numbered. The Arab Spring was a rejoinder to, rather than an opportunity for, Islamist violence. The intervention in Libya was vindication for the “lead from behind” approach to intervention. The reset with Russia was a success, a position he maintained as late as September 2013. In Latin America, the “trend lines are good.”

“Overall,” as he told Tom Friedman in August 2014—shortly after ISIS had seized control of Mosul and as Vladimir Putin was muscling his way into eastern Ukraine—“I think there’s still cause for optimism.”

It’s a remarkable record of prediction. One hundred percent wrong. The professor president who loves to talk about teachable moments is himself unteachable. Why is that?

Some of the explanations are ordinary and almost forgivable. All politicians like to boast. The predictions seemed reasonably well-founded at the time they were made. Mr. Obama wasn’t really making predictions: He was choosing optimism, placing a bet on hope. His successes were of his own making; the failures owed to forces beyond his control. And so on.

But there’s a deeper logic to the president’s thinking, starting with ideological necessity. The president had to declare our foreign policy dilemmas solved so he could focus on his favorite task of “nation-building at home.” A strategy of retreat and accommodation, a bias against intervention, a preference for minimal responses—all this was about getting America off the hook, doing away with the distraction of other people’s tragedies.

When you’ve defined your political task as “fundamentally transforming the United States of America”—as Mr. Obama did on the eve of his election in 2008—then your hands are full. Let other people sort out their own problems.

But that isn’t all. The president also has an overarching moral theory about American power, expressed in his 2009 contention in Prague that “moral leadership is more powerful than any weapon.”

At the time, Mr. Obama was speaking about the end of the Cold War—which, he claimed, came about as a result of “peaceful protest”—and of his desire to see a world without nuclear weapons. It didn’t seem to occur to him that the possession of such weapons by the U.S. also had a hand in winning the Cold War. Nor did he seem to contemplate the idea that moral leadership can never safely be a substitute for weapons unless those leaders are willing to throw themselves at the mercy of their enemies’ capacity for shame.

In late-era South Africa and the Soviet Union, where men like F.W. de Klerk and Mikhail Gorbachev had a sense of shame, the Obama theory had a chance to work. In Iran in 2009, or in Syria today, it doesn’t.

Then again, that distinction doesn’t much matter to this president, since he seems to think that seizing the moral high ground is victory enough. Under Mr. Obama, the U.S. is on “the right side of history” when it comes to the territorial sovereignty of Ukraine, or the killing fields in Syria, or the importance of keeping Afghan girls in school.

Having declared our good intentions, why muck it up with the raw and compromising exercise of power? In Mr. Obama’s view, it isn’t the man in the arena who counts. It’s the speaker on the stage.

Finally, Mr. Obama believes history is going his way. “What? Me worry?” says the immortal Alfred E. Neuman, and that seems to be the president’s attitude toward Mr. Putin’s interventions in Syria (“doomed to fail”) and Ukraine (“not so smart”), to say nothing of his sang-froid when it comes to the rest of his foreign-policy debacles.

In this cheapened Hegelian world view, the U.S. can relax because History is on our side, and the arc of history bends toward justice. Why waste your energies to fulfill a destiny that is already inevitable? And why get in the way of your adversary’s certain doom?

It’s easy to accept this view of life if you owe your accelerated good fortune to a superficial charm and understanding of the way the world works. It’s also easier to lecture than to learn, to preach than to act. History will remember Barack Obama as the president who conducted foreign policy less as a principled exercise in the application of American power than as an extended attempt to justify the evasion of it.

From Aleppo to Donetsk to Kunduz, people are living with the consequences of that evasion.

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Putin looks at the world the way it is and reacts to it.

Odumbo looks at the world the way he wants it to be and does nothing.

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Looks can be deceiving.
You been peeking in HRC'S pantsuit lama?
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Old 10-02-2015, 08:36 AM   #15
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Right. The pussy POTUS who got OBL. And, who has droned the shit out of bad guys left and right for the last 5 years. The one who has authorized and ordered US air strikes in support of Syrian freedom fighters for how long now?

You and the rest of the whackjobs are premature ejaculators. What's going on in Syria and the middle east so far as Putin and Russia go is just beginning to play out.

Two questions for you, O Wise One...

1. What should the US be doing in relation to Putin and Russia?

2. Define "disaster".

The only thing Trump has ever said that I agree with is why not let the Russians fight ISIS? Fuck it. We've done our part and then some in the Middle East. Let them have the mess.


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Don't get me wrong...Putin is a commie asshole. But once again we are seeing a teenager being out maneuvered by a ruthless Kremlin goon.

The Obama/Clinton/Kerry foreign policy has been a disaster.

So much for leading from behind and letting the international community fix the worlds problems. I bet the Iranians and Russkies are have a good laugh at the fools they have made of this administration. This would have never happened if we had a leader that knew and understood enemy identification. So much for the politics of cut and run.

You Dems are pussies.
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