On Being Kept...

[Guest062114-5]

I'd like to find out about others' experience either as ladies being "kept," or as gentlemen "keeping" ladies.

I know different people have different definitions, which is fine...if you have thoughts or experience on a situation You consider to be a "kept" situation, please chime in or feel free to PM me.

I also welcome discussions in the distinction between a kept status and a sugar daddy/sugar baby relationship.

Looking forward to your thoughts!

xoxo
LMx

[Charlotte Breeze]

Well, here's how I understand the different "levels", lol

Escorts see kind of whoever, depending on their needs at the time. The rates are usually $200-$1,000 an hour, and service can vary greatly. It should not take more than four emails to set something up, and each person generally goes on their merry way after the appointment until the client feels the need to contact her again.

Sugar babies see 3-4 people a month max, and it's because they have an ongoing financial agreement with those people. These girls devote MUCH more time to building and maintaining these relationships, and they are genuine relationships, compared to what one would have with an escort. SB's can be as inexpensive as 3k a month, or as expensive as 15k and up, depending on the amount of time and commitment the SD wants. While time is still a factor, it is much less important than when booking with an escort.

Kept women see one, maybe two people. They are in full blown, exclusive relationships with the gentleman, and often live at least close to where he is regularly. They go to or with him when he wants, and how he wants. He pays all bills, plus an allowance. Kept women, obviously, are not cheap.

I've been all three, and I much prefer being an escort or small time sugar baby. While it's nice to have a huge chunk of change coming every month, it's much nicer to know that saying no to one little thing isn't going to cost you everything. It's also pretty exhausting to be that worried about someone else all the time, and forgo things you know you need to do or that are important to you as a person because someone else said "drop everything and come be my plaything".

[Guest062114-5]

Excellent response, Charlotte! Exactly the kind of thoughts I'm looking for on this topic. I agree with what you said. And I think that you make good distinctions that come from your experience.

I agree that maintaining long term relationships can be exhausting at times. And I agree that you may at times feel like one mistake in a kept situation could cost you the relationship. Hence, the importance of saving, investing and having things put in your own name.

Have you noticed a difference in the type of relationships me are looking for (besides the amount of money spent)? I mean, I feel like SDs are looking to mentors and men keeping women are looking to be benefactors. And I'm not really sure how to exactly perfectly explain the difference especially without demeaning SBs in general. I guess I'm asking if SDs in general want someone submissive and if you've seen the same thing in kept relationships.


I strayed across this article and would like your thoughts in it if you have time.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ept-woman.html

[Guest062114-5]

Another link...out of date and inactive, but interesting nonetheless..I like her description of a kept woman.

http://keptwoman.blogspot.com/2005/0...e-of-nice.html

[TheDoc]

I think that Charlotte's descriptions are accurate, but I think that the number of SBs that can command that kind of $ are pretty rare.
For example, a SB who is taking home 3000/month. Assuming her SD is in at least a 40% bracket (and realistically more like 50%), he would have to earn $5000/ month, or $60,000/year to pay for his sugar. By the same reasoning, the 15,000/mo SB would be equivalent to a $300,000 job. I'm sure there may be some guys who are capable of shelling out that kind of cash for their sugar, but I am guessing they are pretty rare. The same math applies to the kept woman. Sounds like a great job if you can get it.

[Guest062114-5]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

I think that Charlotte's descriptions are accurate, but I think that the number of SBs that can command that kind of $ are pretty rare.
For example, a SB who is taking home 3000/month. Assuming her SD is in at least a 40% bracket (and realistically more like 50%), he would have to earn $5000/ month, or $60,000/year to pay for his sugar. By the same reasoning, the 15,000/mo SB would be equivalent to a $300,000 job. I'm sure there may be some guys who are capable of shelling out that kind of cash for their sugar, but I am guessing they are pretty rare. The same math applies to the kept woman. Sounds like a great job if you can get it.

I agree with your math, Doc. It's not a situation for the average working guy...even a successful one. Especially when most of these men are married with families. The amount of disposable income needed to keep a woman puts these men in a whole different category.

Though, I'm continually surprised at the number of guys who do maintain these situations. Of course, I'm in Houston where guys like to spend big and play hard.

[GTDADDY]

LilMynx, I agree with your definition of escort and SD/SB relationships. I disagree with your definition of a "kept" woman seeing more then one person. The reason they are kept is the exclusivity. Men that make 10,20,100 million dollars a year usually have trophy wives who are considered "kept" women. These women don't have "real" working jobs that add to the family income, they organize charity events, join various clubs and other such endeavors. If the trophy wives don't maintain there model looks after having children, the men of this income status might have a mistress on the side that can/could be called a kept woman. Usually the mistress nothing more then a HDH, because men of this income level are well known in the community and wouldn't be caught dead with the mistress out in public. He may take the mistress to an out of town meeting/weekend but again never where they can be recognized by others. And it's not that these type of men care if their wives find out about the mistress, they are protected by the prenuptial, they are more afraid of people in their business find out about the mistress. Reason being if a guy is known to cheat on his wife and kids, what does that say about what type of business partner, or business relationship he is having with others in the same business field. An excellent example of what a kept relationship looks like, I direct you to the movie about Liberace staring Michael Douglas and Mat Damon.

[Guest062114-5]

Originally Posted by GTDADDY

LilMynx, I agree with your definition of escort and SD/SB relationships. I disagree with your definition of a "kept" woman seeing more then one person. The reason they are kept is the exclusivity. Men that make 10,20,100 million dollars a year usually have trophy wives who are considered "kept" women. These women don't have "real" working jobs that add to the family income, they organize charity events, join various clubs and other such endeavors. If the trophy wives don't maintain there model looks after having children, the men of this income status might have a mistress on the side that can/could be called a kept woman. Usually the mistress nothing more then a HDH, because men of this income level are well known in the community and wouldn't be caught dead with the mistress out in public. He may take the mistress to an out of town meeting/weekend but again never where they can be recognized by others. And it's not that these type of men care if their wives find out about the mistress, they are protected by the prenuptial, they are more afraid of people in their business find out about the mistress. Reason being if a guy is known to cheat on his wife and kids, what does that say about what type of business partner, or business relationship he is having with others in the same business field. An excellent example of what a kept relationship looks like, I direct you to the movie about Liberace staring Michael Douglas and Mat Damon.

I agree, it was Charlotte who said a kept woman might be kept by more than one man. While I (personally) know this to be true sometimes, I agree it's not the usual at all. Basically, I think it's sort of like the lady is "exclusive" with the benefactor and cheating with the other guy who is sort of more of a sugar daddy. Which is a dangerous game to play with not much security.

One difference I see here in Houston is that these men have mistresses and everyone knows it. They may go to one place with their wives, but also openly socialize with their mistresses. And people here act like its normal. It's certain seen as a status symbol to "keep" a woman here. That's partly why I find the whole thing so interesting.

Oh, and the one thing ill disagree with is that these men stray because their wives get out of shape...most of these wives I see are at least as hot as the mistresses!

[Charlotte Breeze]

Originally Posted by LilMynx69

Excellent response, Charlotte! Exactly the kind of thoughts I'm looking for on this topic. I agree with what you said. And I think that you make good distinctions that come from your experience.

I agree that maintaining long term relationships can be exhausting at times. And I agree that you may at times feel like one mistake in a kept situation could cost you the relationship. Hence, the importance of saving, investing and having things put in your own name.

Have you noticed a difference in the type of relationships me are looking for (besides the amount of money spent)? I mean, I feel like SDs are looking to mentors and men keeping women are looking to be benefactors. And I'm not really sure how to exactly perfectly explain the difference especially without demeaning SBs in general. I guess I'm asking if SDs in general want someone submissive and if you've seen the same thing in kept relationships.


I strayed across this article and would like your thoughts in it if you have time.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ept-woman.html

Well, the thing I noticed the most was how varied the reasons were for men looking for a SB/Kept woman. It really was a lot like escorting, for me, in terms of why they were there, though exclusivity was an across the board desire. Other than that, it was because they didn't have time, had a wife, lived out of town, or wanted someone ready when they were.

I don't have the temperament for a benefactor or mentor, in that type of situation. So that may be why I didn't run into many who were just like "Here love, go write novels and spread your wings, I'll put a call in to my publisher" or something. They were aware that I had other stuff going on, but I was not particularly interested in using the relationship to get me further with that stuff, just in having the financial security and time to do it, if that makes sense. There's a fine line between "That's great!" and "You're welcome", when you're telling a SD about your success, and I prefer to lean towards the former.

Each one seems much closer to being a real relationship, even if that's as a mistress, than regular escorting. There's a lot more expected of the girl, and it's all much more involved. If anything, I was less submissive as a SB than I am as an escort. We came to that agreement because we got along, and he liked that I wasn't just going to bat my eyes and say "whatever you want dear". I have to watch my mouth sometimes when I'm an escort, but with the SD's, it was part of what they wanted, to a degree. SD's and SB's are a little pickier though, so neither of us would have agreed to the situation if it wasn't something with at least some kind of genuine connection.

I did not make it as a kept woman, so I don't want to say to much and lead anyone the wrong way on that

I'll take a look at those articles. I think all the different, "levels" I guess you could say, of sex work are really interesting.

[Guest062114-5]

Charlotte, can I just say...I love you! This is exactly the type of discussion I was wanting. Thank you! Ill write more a little later.

[Beau Derierre]

Great read!

[Wakeup]

It always ends well...

[John Bull]

The Courtesan's of old were generally not exclusive to one man but were certainly exclusive to the highest echelons of society. I don't think the SB model or certainly not the HDH model would be at all like them.

[Gotyour6]

Here we go again.
This topic has been beat to death.

There is no difference from past posts.
A hooker will get pissed at what a sugar daddy says, a daddy will get pissed about what a hooker says.

Hooker = call girl, escort, provider, whore, lady of the night, lady of the evening, what ever label you go by today.

There is no security in an SB or being kept. You can get booted out on your ass being either just as easy.

[Guest062114-5]

Originally Posted by Gotyour6

Here we go again.
This topic has been beat to death.

There is no difference from past posts.
A hooker will get pissed at what a sugar daddy says, a daddy will get pissed about what a hooker says.

Hooker = call girl, escort, provider, whore, lady of the night, lady of the evening, what ever label you go by today.

Though I've seen a bunch of SD threads, I don't recall one focusing on being kept. If I missed it, I'd love the link! Thanks!