sooo I was changed to a Provider....

[MuffDVR]

yet i cannot post in the provider only areas, so i have lost my mens only pass because im a provider and dont have provider status because im a man? will someone please explain all this to me? I am lost in all this mess, Either way i should at least get the benefits of either a Dawg or a Provider, not be limited to neither.

[BIG C]

You have been set to Verified and you should be able to post in the Provider Ads Section to post ads for the ladies that you promote.....That is no different than any other agency owner, whether they be male or female.....Agencies have their access restricted from some of the provider areas for the simple reason that whether anyone wants to admit it or not, there are many agencies that are run by men, or men have some kind of position of authority in the agencies and the general feeling amongst the different boardowners (as well as the many different indie providers) that giving men access to the female only areas would compromise those areas.....I do believe that you also have access to some of the areas that will allow you to become privy to alerts on potentially dangerous situations, but you do not have access to areas that are strictly intended to be for only ladies to have access.....Cheer up dude.....I'm on the staff here and even I don't have access to those areas and no one can truthfully say that I've ever been a danger to anyone, nor have I ever compromised anyone.....

As I told you before though, if you cannot post your ads in the ads sections, then holla at me and we'll get you set up for that (but since I just checked your profile prior to responding here it appears as though the admins have already set you to where you can post ads).....

[MuffDVR]

I can post in ads, but cant post in INFOSHARE section where annie@christophers is posting, are they not and agency and is it not owned by a man? Just asking, doesnt seem fair as i was compared to them and for that reason lost regular Dawg status i should at least be given the same access no?

Certainly if i were a regular Dawg i would have handled this by pm, but as i am not considered an agency, i figured i would follow their lead and air all issues publicly so that its here when others have the same questions.

[BIG C]

Ok, I see your point and understand your confusion here.....Annie is a Sponsor Provider and since she's contributing financially to the site, then she gets some privileges that others similarly situated do not get.....In other words, she pays a fee for her advertising, whereas right now your advertising is free....So yes, she's an Agency owner, but she's an Agency owner contributing money to help with the expenses of the site and the owners have determined that people like her that do give up money will get some additional benefits.....That's pretty much SOP on every escort site that I know of.....There's no problem with you asking the questions you have here in the open in this forum since that's what this forum is designed for and it does help others (and staff) by it having to only be asked and answered just once instead of hundreds of times if it had been handled via PM.....

If you want to have your handle set to Sponsor and pay for your advertising (and have the ability to get into Infoshare, then drop an email to staff@eccie.net and they'll gladly hook you up with all the info you'll need.....

[MuffDVR]

Ok so dont do the pay thingy for advertising as provider/agency? Thanks for the Direction C.

[VeronicaMoore]

are they not and agency and is it not owned by a man?

Annie runs an agency, but she's not a man. NO man has *ever* had any kind of affiliation w/CC's. Really, the only other person who ever had anything to do with CC's aside from Annie is me. And I am also female.

Many people question why it's called "Christopher's" Cuties. It's a really funny story, but y'all should ask Annie about that LOL.

[MuffDVR]

Ohhh im sorry i was told by a cpl girls something about annies ol man being involved, My Bad! I appologise.

Its all good tho, Big C has me strait, now i can go have girl talk with the ladies! Yea see that makes wayyyy more sense doesnt it? lol.

[VeronicaMoore]

Yea see that makes wayyyy more sense doesnt it? lol.

Well, kinda, yeah it does make sense.

Infoshare, right?

Well, to a degree, I guess it makes sense. Agency owners should be able to see alerts too for the safety of their employees. How messed up would it be for someone to post an alert about a rapist and agency owners not having the permission to see it.

Besides, agency owners can probably contribute a lot more alerts than independents can based on the number of ladies they manage.

Well now that's done, hopefully now all the drama of last week can stay there lol.

i was told by a cpl girls something about annies ol man being involved, My Bad!

Yeah, sometimes people like to talk about things they know nothing about just to make it seem like they know more than others lol. But seriously, aside from the fact that I help Annie out with some computer things here and there, CC's is a one-woman show.

[administrator]

This should help clear things up.

MuffDVR,

as a Verified member, you can:

-Post ads for the ladies.
-have read-only access to Infoshare, for important security information.
-post in any of the coed public forums (discussions, etc)

You can't:

-post or reply to reviews
-access Men's Lounge
-access Provider Powder Room
-make posts in Infoshare. Your access to that section is read-only. If you have info you would like to have posted for the ladies in the Infoshare section, contact one of the moderators of that section and request for them post on your behalf. We will always be glad to get valuable safety info out to the people who need it.

Also, you may purchase an Advertiser account or become an ECCIE Sponsor to get banner space on the site, however it will not enable you to access any of the female-only forums. These are for.......females only. If you are interested in one of these paid subscriptions, contact your local moderator. The "Verified" usergroup you are in does not have the ability to upgrade to one of these packages without moderator or administrator assistance.

Thanks man,

St. C

[MuffDVR]

wow so the people who handle the girls get less access, and safety for their girls, than the people who hobby and the girls who are simply handled by their boyfriend??

LOL wow... thats definately interesting,lol... Maybe the agencies should start charging extra for all eccie members for the risk, since we arent allowed to post in an area about bad clients who have hurt our girls, seems thats just to protect eccie dawgs from anyone finding out if they are abusive to a provider.

And you want us to pay you to advertise,well along with advertising comes the ability to see the results of that advertising and to see where to improve no?? I am gonna just slowly back the hell out of here, and definately no longer suggest the girls offer an eccie discount. Wtf good is working hard for good reviews worth if i cant even see BCD to tell them how to improve their services?? People thought they were smart is stopping my access, and all it does is ensures that u get crappy services.. wonder why my girls give the best across the board, its cuz if there was a bcd complaint, i had them fix it.. now you will get what u got, no improvements, no touchups. YAY! you have just screwed the pooch. Dont blame me later. Nice board setup but your business sense isnt too sharp, there was another board like that, they went bankrupt. Best of luck folks but me and the elves wont be posting or spending time here anymore, you know how to reach them if you need them, the same way to reach any INDY.. CALL THEIR DAMN PHONE.

[administrator]

That's the thing. You are not being classified as an "Agency" or a "Provider"

You are being classified as simply "Verified" which, quite honestly, has very limited permissions. It's a usergroup reserved for very special circumstances. Reserved for those who don't belong in either of the usergroups above. Some examples can be screeners, male managers, etc.

So here's the deal. You don't like our business model, fine. It ain't changin'...but we can certainly work with you if you are providing a service to the community. If you'd like to have expanded access, then you need to get with Big C and work it out. From what I'm seeing, you certainly aren't a hobbyist. That in itself excludes you from the Male Private Areas. As far as I can tell, you are not a provider.....and I'm not going to inspect close enough to verify that...will just trust my gut instinct. However, you might have a case for being upgraded from the limited "Verified" status you have into the "Agency" status which enjoys more access and posting privileges than you currently have. Please get with Big C and if he feels Agency is the right classification for you then we can certainly work with you on setting that up, starting with changing your username to the Agency name...and then go from there.

St. C

[MuffDVR]

Im as big a hobbyist as anyone but caught hell for reviewing before, even tho the providers i was reviewing werent of my stable, now of course that wasnt this board but with the same members i figured same problem, hell i have been a hobbyist since back in the days of Alexis's out of mimai and the only centerfold girls, i have banged more provider quiff than most, and continue to do so weekly, and not of my stable.

as for me not being listed as agency or hobbyist, thats kinda messed up i got yanked as a Dawg cuz everyone said i was an Agency, now i am neither? cmon thats just wrong in any book. All im saying is, pick a damn direction, hell ill go either way, but sticking me in limbo is seriously messed up.
All this because a few people complained cuz they just dont like my politics? If you are going to let the members run the site then let them run it, they say im an agency, so lets have the status. Either way you should at least post a sticky thread of whos ass to kiss in here so as other less informed "in crowd" folks such as myself will have a more accurate assessment as to who to lube up and grab ankles for when joining the site, so that we can all function in a more proficient manner.

Heres some unwanted advice... If you want to know the future, look at the past and dont change anything, you have the same rules and same rulers as aspd, and we know what happened to that. again, unwanted advice. IN 4 YEARS THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM WITH ME HAVING BACK DOOR ACCESS.. I never abused it nor did i ever allow providers direct access into it, not once did anyone have an issue with ANY of the Elves on ANY board, so again, why do we get singled out and punished?
If you are going to limit me here on this site unjustly just because the (advertising) competition and "One girl stable pimps" dont want me or the elves around, then you can go ahead and ban me, because i wont kiss anyones nasty ass. Now if ur gettin free ass from those folks for screwing with me then i cant really blame you, saving a buck is saving a buck, i hear Giz is a good friend, hed go get 2 blowjobs and come back and give you one (sorry giz, had to get one good jab in) I cant blame the members who dont like me and have an opinion like Giz, but i can blame the staff who run a popularity contest forum.

AND FOR THE LAST TIME.. I AM NOT AN AGENCY, I OWN A MANAGEMENT COMPANY, ANY PROVIDER OR AGENCY CAN USE MY SERVICES, I HANDLE TRAVEL AND ACCOMODATIONS FOR TRAVELING ESCORTS, I HAVE ZERO TO DO WITH CLIENTS AND PROVIDER BOOKINGS, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD IS ANYONE ACTUALLY LISTENING??? IF CC'S WANTS TO SEND 3 GIRLS TO VEGAS THEY CAN CALL ME AND I CAN FLY THEM TO VEGAS FOR 100 EACH, PUT THEIR GIRLS UP AT THE LUXOR FOR 25 A NITE AND MAKE SURE THERE IS A RENTAL CAR WAITING AND I GET PAID FOR THAT.. THATS ALL... NOTHING MORE!! SAME AS A TRAVEL AGENT I JUST HAPPEN TO DO IT FOR PROVIDERS.

sorry for the caps but gesh i can only say it so many times.

[docdavid49]

Muff,

I am going to stick my big nose in here and maybe get blasted but...

I thought that your original question had merit and was asked in a good way. When I first read it I thought, "Yeah, the guy has a point." I am still inclined to leave you with male premium status but.. I don't run things. So, the staff and owners make those decisions. I thought that your postings in the N.O. Locker Room were good posts and good heads up and appreciated them. For the most part you have been polite and not a crap stirrer but your posts in this thread have become increasingly aggressive. No need and as mama used to say, "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar." I think that I can see valid points in all directions and I guess that the spot reserved for you is similar to where N.O. Finest would be when he comes back. Anyway, I hope that things get sorted out so that you can be a contributing member of the board and keep us all up to date on the "elves".

Thanks for the good posts and "ewww" on the bad ones.

Doc

[gimme_that]

This is a good thread. There were valid points on all sides of the issue. The only difference is how its presented so we can understand the concept. It seems eccie is receptive to new ideas hobbywise.....it would be unfortunate if good info or solid suggestions were lost in a random misplaced rant about someone else. You dont have to kiss arse... just be easy.

But sense you dont want the access anyway or eitherway, whats the point. Flame on... flame on.

[MuffDVR]

you are both right, and yes i agree that my post are getting a bit agressive, but cmon, honestly if you tell the waitress 5 times u want sweet tea and she keeps bringing you coke, how long before you get pissed because you realize she is BLATANTLY not listening to anything you are saying? Fact is lets say you own the Hair and nail salon downtown, and providers come and pay you for your services, by a bunch of people heres definition, you would be an AGENCY, i would just like to have someone explain to me how that works and how anyone who owns a business and doesnt have a sign that says no escorts on the door is an AGENCY by eccie standards?