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02-03-2013, 11:06 PM
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ROVE DECLARES WAR ON TEA PARTY
Wow! This is like the Super Bowl of politics. I don't really care who wins, but it might be fun to watch!
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The battle for the heart and soul of the Republican Party has begun. (OP Note: LOL! Like either party has a heart or soul!) On one side is the Tea Party. On the other side stand Karl Rove and his establishment team, posing as tacticians while quietly undermining conservatism.
Yesterday, the New York Times reported that the “biggest donors in the Republican Party” have joined forces with Karl Rove and Steven J. Law, president of American Crossroads, to create the Conservative Victory Project. The Times reports that this new group will dedicate itself to “recruit seasoned candidates and protect Senate incumbents from challenges by far-right conservatives and Tea Party enthusiasts who Republican leaders worry could complicate the party’s effort to win control of the Senate.” The group points to candidates like Christine O’Donnell in Delaware and Richard Mourdock in Indiana as examples of Tea Party primary picks going sideways in major Senatorial battles.
But it is American Crossroads and its ilk that have run the GOP into the ground. Spending millions of dollars on useless 30,000-ft. advertising campaigns during the last election cycle, training candidates to soften conservatism in order to appeal to “moderates,” blowing up the federal budget under George W. Bush as a bipartisan tactic – all of those strategies led the party to a disastrous defeat in 2012. The Tea Party, which may nominate losers from time to time, also brought the Republicans their historic 2010 Congressional victory. If Tea Party candidates lose, it’s because they weren’t good candidates; if GOP establishment candidates lose, it’s because they weren’t good conservatives. The choice for actual conservatives should be easy.
But it isn’t. The Bush insider team that helped lead to the rise of Barack Obama insists that they, and only they, know the path to victory. As the Times reports, Conservative Victory Project won’t merely protect incumbents – it will challenge sitting Congresspeople of the Tea Party variety, including six-term Iowa Republican Rep. Steve King, who may run for Senate. “We’re concerned about Steve King’s Todd Akin problem,” Law told the Times – with whom he seems far too friendly. “This is an example of candidate discipline and how it would play in a general election. All of the things he’s said are going to be hung around his neck.”
Law claims he’s acting under the rubric of William F. Buckley, supporting the most conservative candidate who can win. But Law is no judge of that. Neither is Rove. Their advice led to the epic Romney defeat, in which conservatives were told to vote for Romney in the primary since he was the only candidate who could win.
Grover Norquist correctly points out that the Rove mission is nonsense. “People are imagining a problem that doesn’t exist,” said Norquist. “We’ve had people challenge the establishment guy and do swimmingly.” In truth, conservatism wins elections so long as the messenger doesn’t implode. Rove’s view, however, is that conservatism takes a back seat to the best quasi-conservative messenger.
But victory for conservatives isn’t Rove’s goal. He’s a political insider par excellence, and he’s playing for his political life in the aftermath of 2012. If that means declaring war on the Tea Party, so be it.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-war-Tea-Party
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02-03-2013, 11:17 PM
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On one side the (possibly) well meaning but delusional & myopic TPs.
On the other side the politically experienced but completely amoral and evil Karl Rove.
Talk about frying pan and fire. The only good outcome is mass anihilation (in a political sense), and a sane version of the Republican party reemerges.after being missing for so long.
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02-04-2013, 06:24 AM
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Sign of the continued breakup of the GOP......
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02-04-2013, 06:54 AM
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GOP=RIP
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02-04-2013, 07:07 AM
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Rove is the GOPs worst enemy within the party.
His main worry is losing his gravy train.
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02-04-2013, 07:23 AM
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I think you might be right.
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GOP=RIP
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02-04-2013, 07:47 AM
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Rove is the GOPs worst enemy within the party.
His main worry is losing his gravy train.
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+1. I despise Rove as much as I despise O'Blunder...well, almost.
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02-04-2013, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Old-T
On one side the (possibly) well meaning but delusional & myopic TPs.
On the other side the politically experienced but completely amoral and evil Karl Rove.
Talk about frying pan and fire. The only good outcome is mass anihilation (in a political sense), and a sane version of the Republican party reemerges.after being missing for so long.
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^^^ This.
Or we can hope for a bunch of viable third/fourth/fifth parties to emerge, but they'd all be crushed under the Democratic party.
I want my fiscally conservative, socially liberal party, damnit!
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02-04-2013, 09:15 AM
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Fuck Rove the rino, because of shitbirds like him, is why odumbo is in office.
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02-04-2013, 09:23 AM
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No because of shitbirds like you is why Obama is in office, you voted for Bush twice is my guess.
Rove will win, he has the vast industrial military complex behind him. That baby always wins. Always put your money on it getting the money it wants! They crush politicians who stand in their way.
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02-04-2013, 09:23 AM
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As American economic power implodes (because of our debt); these kinds of political splits are inevitable ....the Democrats will go through a similar division as well.
It is a sign of the economic calamity that is heading our way.
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02-04-2013, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Whirlaway
As American economic power implodes (because of our debt); these kinds of political splits are part of the process....the Democrats will go through the same process as well.
It is a sign of the economic calamity that is heading our way.
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Look anybody can claim that but when Whirly, when is the real question.
Your claim , without being specific is worthless. It is like saying the market will drop , or rise. Yes, history has shown that all empires collapse.
But it will not be anytime soon. In case you haven't looked around, our country is starting to swim in natural resources again. People forget that huge factor that these shale plays have transformed our wealth in relation to other countries.
So while you are correct in your statement, I am betting on this country in the foreseeable future.
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02-04-2013, 09:31 AM
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I like Rove.....
So Fuck all of you.
Dipshits.
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02-04-2013, 09:36 AM
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Our combined energy resources are estimated at $7 trillion, a pittance compared to the total debt......and most of the resource is in private ownership so the government would have to confiscate it............................ plus the $7 trillion is gross value and costs need to be subtracted...and mos of it is off limits because of Obama's green energy policy.......
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/pgi_01.htm
And your "foreseeable future" is as nebulous as my opine.........like you said "without being specific your opinion is worthless".................... .
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Look anybody can claim that but when Whirly, when is the real question.
Your claim , without being specific is worthless. It is like saying the market will drop , or rise. Yes, history has shown that all empires collapse.
But it will not be anytime soon. In case you haven't looked around, our country is starting to swim in natural resources again. People forget that huge factor that these shale plays have transformed our wealth in relation to other countries.
So while you are correct in your statement, I am betting on this country in the foreseeable future.
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02-04-2013, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by seedman55
Fuck Rove the rino, because of shitbirds like him, is why odumbo is in office.
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+1.
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