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07-29-2015, 05:25 PM
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Pimpin' Ain't Easy But It Doesn't Have to Be All Bad
OK, bear with me on this one. This is sort of a tangent off Gemma's thread. The general consensus here is that pimps are bad and that any girl who is pimped should be avoided. In general, I'd agree. But does "pimping" or "managing" have to be all bad? Again, bear with me, this is a business model I've thought of before.
Let's say a guy set up as a 'manager' along these lines:
The manager is savvy with social media, marketing, websites, and so forth. He handles all of those details. He also handles security, and trains the girls on TCB skills - by that I mean sales and customer service, not the sexual aspect of the job. He books the incall locations, helps in dealing with LE if necessary, gets her health checkups every month. Basically he takes care of everything but the actual sessions.
The finances would work this way: Expenses come off the top, before any splits are made. The girl keeps 25% of the money (BEAR WITH ME), and 75% to the manager. The manager, in turn, invests 25% of the money (thus keeping 50% for himself) in an account - investment or savings - for the girl. The business arrangement is a 5 year arrangement. The investment account "vests" in 5 years, and is turned over to the girl. The girl of course has the option of renewing the agreement or leaving.
The arrangement includes NO physical coercion, abuse, etc. It's strictly a marketing and financial management arrangement. Here's where I think the "win" is:
One of the saddest things about this hobby/business, IMO, is that many girls who do this for years and years end up with nothing because they're not good with their money. Plus, many girls leave a lot of money on the table because of a lack of basic service skills or marketing skills. So....
The girl wins in the short term because she probably gets more business at higher rates (and thus probably a better clientele) than she otherwise would.
The girl wins in the long term because, assuming she sticks with it for five years, she ends up with what is probably a large lump sum to move into a new chapter of her life if she wishes - or she can keep it invested and let it keep growing. For many girls, this would be far more than she'd end up with on her own. And even 25% (her initial disbursement) is nice walking around money, considering that all the expenses are taken care of.
The manager wins because he provides a quality product, adds value to the girl's business, and is compensated nicely for it. And before anyone says that 50% is too much, I'd ask this - would YOU do all that for less?
Anyway, just a thought for discussion. My mind wanders when I'm bored.
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07-29-2015, 05:40 PM
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Your assumption is based on the idea that she can't do those things for herself. That the only thing she can manage is laying on her back and sticking her legs in the air. Kinda makes you sound like a misogynistic asshole if you ask me.
Let me ask you this: assuming it's a $200 appt and using your business model, would you fuck your hairy, wrinkly old ass for $50, hoping to get the other $50 plus interest 5 years from now? Didn't think so.
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07-29-2015, 05:43 PM
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Uhhh I think you got it backwards
Shes doing the hard work...would you think you get $50 for each appt and she gets the rest
Shes the one that deserves the money not you....
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07-29-2015, 05:51 PM
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Good grief, you pantywaists think that I'm gonna do this or something....just food for conversation. Notice that at no point did I say "I" or "me," I said "The manager." And for once there's a thread on Co-Ed that's not accusing anyone of anything.
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07-29-2015, 06:00 PM
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And for once there's a thread on Co-Ed that's not accusing anyone of anything.
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Yea, but my accusations produced great results...
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07-29-2015, 06:01 PM
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Your assumption is based on the idea that she can't do those things for herself. That the only thing she can manage is laying on her back and sticking her legs in the air. Kinda makes you sound like a misogynistic asshole if you ask me.
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Well, just from one thread, we know that there are at least three attractive young women here who apparently don't think that they can do those things for themselves - suppose their pimp has an investment account for them? For that matter, do you suppose he even gives them 25%?
Obviously there are many, many women here who would have no interest in this, and for good reason - they are perfectly capable of handling their own marketing, security, and finances. Others are not. For those women, this would be far more beneficial than Huggy Bear swinging the belt.
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07-29-2015, 06:02 PM
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Yea, but my accusations produced great results...
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You got shit woke up, I'll say that, babe!
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07-29-2015, 08:01 PM
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Unfortunately your model does not work, because pimps give a fuck about nobody but themselves. They could care less where a lady is in 5 years unless she is still with them making them money. Yes, they will tell ladies that they are saving for "her home" or better yet "their home", but they are really only spending on themselves. They don't even save for themselves, because there will be another girl or girls making them more money tomorrow. I know this is unlike me to sound so rude and condescending, but if you have ever known a lady that has been pimped, it is a sad situation. The pimp makes them believe that he is their boyfriend/husband as opposed to pimp. Your model sucks. sorry...
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07-29-2015, 08:09 PM
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I've never heard of a provider that had a pimp and was basking in the lap of comfort and luxury...
And if anyone wants a financial planner to advise on how to invest or even manage their money, there are plenty of RW people who do that for a living...
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07-29-2015, 08:33 PM
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I don't know or think the model described is reasonable as realistically, the odds of it being that cut & dry is highly unlikely. Though in theory, if it were, I'm sure there are some who would/could benefit from it but by in large, if they put in the time & effort to learn those skills & do it for themselves, they'd be even further ahead as there would be no splitting of the assets.
Basically you're describing an "agent," much in the likes of with pro athletes. There's a reason why those guys have numerous clients, because they get a much smaller percentage than what was described in the scenario presented.
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07-29-2015, 09:53 PM
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LMFAO at the fuckin' unicorn pimp fantasy that you spent all that time thinking up and laying out. I'm sure more than a few predators will cut and paste your sales pitch to use later, right before they fuck a girl up when she wants to re-negotiate your business model.
Dude, I see from your reviews you've played in Las Vegas, but are you a player or a tourist? Cuz, 'til you get to where you're paying for your... uh..."comp" on the back-end with casino chips, pussy is a cash business.
100% down, no easy monthly payments.
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07-29-2015, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kshunter
Good grief, you pantywaists think that I'm gonna do this or something....just food for conversation. Notice that at no point did I say "I" or "me," I said "The manager." And for once there's a thread on Co-Ed that's not accusing anyone of anything.
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Well you brought it up and it appears you've given it some thought.
So pardon us if it was thought that maybe you had an idea to do this.
I mean your headline stated it "it cant be all bad"
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07-29-2015, 10:32 PM
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I mean your headline stated it "it cant be all bad"
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Actually it said "Doesn't Have to be all bad." Reading's not your strong suit it would appear.
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07-29-2015, 10:42 PM
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it doesnt work like that kshunter. Pimped girls give 100%. If they dont make quota for the day they will normally get abused.
Very ironic since pimp is there to protect ladies from getting hurt or robbed when in reality they are basically robbing and harming ladies themself anyway.
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07-29-2015, 11:00 PM
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Actually it said "Doesn't Have to be all bad." Reading's not your strong suit it would appear.
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Same Fuckin Thing Einstein
Personally I cant believe you actually brought up that any part of pimpin or management can be good....
And dont sit and say "oh thats not what I meant"
Im accusing you of thinking about it...so how that for derailing your thread
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