Orchard Tower action

[dearhunter]

Ok people.

I am in Singapore a few times a year and pretty much take for granted what can be found there.

Here is the scoop on Orchard Tower.

First, every taxi driver in Singapore knows where it is. Just ask to go to Orchard Tower.........it is on Orchard Road.

Orchard Tower is across the street from the Hilton.

The lay-out is four floors. The clubs and shops ring the exterior of the building, with the center atrium open.

Here is what is available by floor:

Basement

A couple of foot massage store fronts.....nothing extra available. 30min foot massage is 30sg dollars. 30 min full body massage is 40sg dollars (clothes on).
Peyton Place Club - Typical club with hookers all over the place after dark.
Blue Banana Club - Typical club with hookers all over the place after dark.

1st Floor

Thai Massage - average girls with little cubicles to give massage plus extras.
Red Cherry Massage - better looking girls with little cubicles to give massage plus extras.
Ba Li Ba Bar - smaller than the clubs. Thus, a little less chaotic with music and fewer hookers.
Queens Pub - An English Bar smaller than the clubs with music and fewer hookers.
3 Monkeys Club - A pretty good club with live music on weekends....lot's of hookers.
Sex Toy Shops - Sex Toys.......what else?

2nd Floor

Country Jamboree - Country Western Club......line dancing and all. The girls get pretty roudy here.
Club Passion - Typical club with hookers all over the place after dark.
Ipanema Club - large club with a bunch of hookers.....great dance floor.
Naughty Girls Bar - small bar with a few hookers.
Angel Massage - more massage girls.
Amy Massage - more massage girls.
Ink on Skin Tattoos - for you people that like ink.

3rd Floor

Fabulous Hot Models FBM Club - I have not been in this one. But, it is there.
Down Under Bar - Austrailian bar with tv screens for football and rufby.....a few hookers.
Bongo Bar - a small bar with a few hookers.
Orchard Bar - a small bar with a few hookers.
FB Pub - a small bar with hookers.
Salax Massage - more massage girls.
Christie Massage - more massage girls.
JJ Massage - more massage girls.
Coco Massage - more massages girls.
Bliss Massage - more massage girls.
So Relax Massage - more massage girls
Cherry Blossom Massage (in the corner behind the elevators) - more massage girls. One with very nice titis and excellent pussy muscles.
Chrystal Massage - more massage girls.
Sofin Massage - more massage girls.

4th Floor

Crazy Horse Club - Excellent music. But, be careful. If they look too good to be true, you get a little surprise.
Top 5 Club - Top end hookers......very expensive.
Club Eurika - lots of hookers after dark.
Orchard Massage - more massage girls.
Lisa Massage - more massage girls.
Aroma Massage - more massage girls.
Floating Market Massage - more massage girls.
Genki Massage - more massage girls.

Costs:

30 min massage with massage girls 30 sg dollars and 50 sg dollars for an hour......consider it a door fee.

After that you negotiate for sex......anywhere from 100sg dollars to 200 sg dollars...............remember MSOG is not automatic.

The hookers in the Clubs and Bars are different. You could end up spending more on them in the club than you will taking them home.

Avoid the hooker drinks. Go to the bar and order your own drinks and bring them back to the table and give her one. Other wise, she will order some frufru drink that she gets a cut from......just get her a tiger beer. She will drink it and rub on you all night.

Negotiating with the hooker takes a little time. Never ask cost until you are ready to close the deal.......act interested, then see someone else that looks interesting. she will ask if you want to chat with the other person......don't fall for that.

When she states her price, you have two options. Negotiate or accept. Never accept right away. She will not respect that. It is a subtle dance. I have gotten them for as little as 100sg dollars for the entire night....sometimes longer......or as much as 500sg dollars........and she ended up staying with me for a week.

The thing to remember is that you are bringing her into a hotel that she hardly ever sees. This is an element in your favor in getting her to stay the night and a little morning action.

Be careful. You could end up with a short time girlfriend.

Final Note: NEVER pick up girls in the atrium or outside the tower on the sidewalk. If they are not able to get in the club, there is a good reason for that. The only two reasons they would not be allowed in are legal and medical reasons..........need I say more?

[Aceswild]

Good Info dearhunter. Thinking of heading over that way soon.... Are the ladies in the Top 5 worth it? What is their cost?

[listerinestrips99]

Good info! Is GFE and BBBJ the expected norm?

Could you expand on the statement..."act interested, then see someone else that looks interesting. she will ask if you want to chat with the other person......don't fall for that."

[dearhunter]

In my experience, the ladies at the Top 5 are not worth the extra costs. You can get the same quality in other clubs.....just don't be in a hurry.

MSOG and DFK and the like are the norm........BBBJ is hit or miss......you just have to be up front with them about it.........that it is a deal breaker.

Asian culture is very much about face.........theirs, not yours........they know you don't give a shit........if she thincks that she has no chance that you want to see her, she will be all about getting as much out of you in that moment.........instead of later.

Once you find what you want, take her around to some of the other bars. Allow her to show you off to her friends (remember, buy all of your drinks at the bar). Once all of her friends have seen you with her, she has a greater incentive to close the deal with you. Otherwise, she loses face.

I could write a book on how to push the right buttons and make them your short time girlfriend and you don't pay anything after the first date........but, I won't.........you have to have game to make that happen.......and if you have game.......you don't need to ask me how to do it.

If you do decide to take her as a short time girlfriend, do not take her back to Orchard Tower unless she suggests it........she will tell you where she wants to go......it will be all about showing off her farang boyfriend.

[Ebauche]

The atrium girls are not in bars for one of 2 reasons. Either they don't want to pay the cover charge (yes, the girls have to pay cover whereas for most of the bars the guys don't), or they are ladyboys. If she's tall for an Asian with a great rack, she's most likely TGTBT. Ipanema is always a good bet. They don't allow ladyboys and aren't a "buy-me-drinks" bar. Most of the pinay bars are BMD bars. For massage joints, I'd go elsewhere other than OT. There are great spas everywhere. For high quality 3-hole Thais at reasonable rates, check out laksaboy dot org.

[true_whatever]

A business trip may be taking me to Singapore soon. Appreciate this info! If anyone is willing to exchange PMs with more detailed info, let me know. Otherwise I'll just continue doing my own research and probably post a thread of questions in a few days.

Thanks.

[AbeLeper]

Headed to SG for first time ever, so I don't want to look too much like Tommy Tourist. But do have a question: In the OT clubs are you better off running around with a wad of SG dollars paying for everything in cash or is it safe to use your Credit Card? Just seems a shame to have to whip out cash all the time, but don't want a huge "Surprise" showing up on the card either.

Also -- anybody know about a shake down scam where women claim that you "molested" them and bring a policeman/lawyer right to you and accuse you of the crime. Some weird law allows the cop to issue a summons that can be paid on the spot to settle the "crime" with no further court action --- but if you don't pay up, they will come after your ass for failure to appaear. Tourists are a target ------ true or urban legend????

[dearhunter]

Cash is king.

I have heard of it. But, I have never seen it happen....and I have spent a lot of time in the filipino bars.

[Ebauche]

Originally Posted by AbeLeper

Headed to SG for first time ever, so I don't want to look too much like Tommy Tourist. But do have a question: In the OT clubs are you better off running around with a wad of SG dollars paying for everything in cash or is it safe to use your Credit Card? Just seems a shame to have to whip out cash all the time, but don't want a huge "Surprise" showing up on the card either.

Also -- anybody know about a shake down scam where women claim that you "molested" them and bring a policeman/lawyer right to you and accuse you of the crime. Some weird law allows the cop to issue a summons that can be paid on the spot to settle the "crime" with no further court action --- but if you don't pay up, they will come after your ass for failure to appaear. Tourists are a target ------ true or urban legend????

Cash. Always cash. In $S is best. But CC's are fine for taxis.

The "molest" scam is serious. There have been cases settled for thousands, and settlement is what the girls are shooting for. It is a SPG thing - Sarong Party Girl - locals who frequent expat watering holes looking for a wealthy ang moh boyfriend or sponsor. Some girls, and lawyers, have figured out there's a more lucrative way. All the more reason, as a tourist, to avoid hitting the touristy nightspots looking for a "freebie." it's never truly free. Even as a resident expat there are risks. Controversy and scandal are what these scamming SPGs are seeking to exploit.

Stick to OT, Brix, Geylang etc. and you'll have no such problems.

ISG's Singapore board is very useful. I post there using the same handle.

PM me if you have specific questions, but please peruse the ISG board first.

[Richardson570]

"Final Note: NEVER pick up girls in the atrium or outside the tower on the sidewalk. If they are not able to get in the club, there is a good reason for that. The only two reasons they would not be allowed in are legal and medical reasons..........need I say more? "
MOre often than not these girls are Vietmanese or TS. They are also more likely to rip you off.

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