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Old 11-28-2011, 04:16 PM   #1
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Default Manmade Climate Change is a Hoax

Check this out.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-sponsors.html

All of you who think the government is there to protect you, and not control you, may now STFU.

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Old 11-28-2011, 08:02 PM   #2
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5000 email "quotes" and not the original e-mails in entirety. /yawn

read this one its better.. but has facts and stuff.
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Old 11-28-2011, 08:10 PM   #3
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Exclamation Flat Earth

Even today, there are some people would still argue that the Earth is flat.

That evolution is not scriptural,

and the Holocaust was a hoax, but you will never get them to see the light.
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Old 11-28-2011, 09:01 PM   #4
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Even today, there are some people would still argue that the Earth is flat.

That evolution is not scriptural,

and the Holocaust was a hoax, but you will never get them to see the light.
COG will see the light at the end of a tunnel and run straight into a freight train
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Old 11-28-2011, 10:28 PM   #5
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I wouldn't believe one damn thing printed in British newspapers. The only thing they are good for is when you need to check your voice mail and you don't have your phone, you can call them to find out what was on it.
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Old 11-28-2011, 10:29 PM   #6
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I just hope the government re-education camps have air conditioning.
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:11 AM   #7
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Check this out.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-sponsors.html

All of you who think the government is there to protect you, and not control you, may now STFU.

Somebody using cherry picked data and not telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

This couldn't be more non-proof like if you hadn't even posted a link.
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What kind of light he sees doesn't matter as long as he walks into it.
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:16 AM   #8
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Ok, show me some comprehensive, unbiased data and analysis, or STFU.
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:06 AM   #9
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Since the middle 20th century, global aridity and drought areas have increased substantially, mainly due to widespread drying since the 1970s over Africa, southern Europe, East and South Asia, eastern Australia, and many parts of the northern mid-high latitudes. Although natural variations in ENSO, tropical Atlantic SSTs, and Asian monsoons have played a large role in the recent drying, the rapid warming since the late 1970s has increased atmospheric demand for moisture and likely altered atmospheric circulation patterns (e.g., over Africa and East Asia), both contributing to the recent drying over land. Since a large part of the recent warming is attributed to human-induced GHG increases,90 it can be concluded that human activities have contributed significantly to the recent drying trend.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...7233f970c8%2C0

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Old 11-29-2011, 07:48 AM   #10
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Hardly unbiased. They rely almost totally on IPCC data, and no conflicting data are analyzed. I don't think the IPCC is a trusted source.
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:59 AM   #11
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THE OLD LIBERAL SCAM AND THE NEW LIBERAL SCAM...........


ANYONE WITH A HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL EARTH SCIENCE COURSE WOULD KNOW THAT GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCAM.......

IF YOU TOOK HIGH SCHOOL EARTH SCIENCE, YOU WILL KNOW THAT IT WAS NOT MAN PUTTING CO2 INTO THE ATMOSPHERE THAT HEATED THE EARTH UP AND ENDED ICE AGES IN THE PAST.....

HOW dO YOU LIBERAL FILTH EXPLAIN THAT WATER VAPOR IS THE MOST COMMON GREEN HOUSE GAS........DO YOU PLAN ON REGULATING WATER VAPOR?.....BTW: WATER VAPOR IS 10x MORE ABUNDANT THAN CO2 AND 100X GREATER GREEN HOUSE EFFECT FOR A TOTAL OF 1000X THE GREENHOUSE IMPACT OF CO2!

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Old 11-29-2011, 09:22 AM   #12
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Hardly unbiased. They rely almost totally on IPCC data, and no conflicting data are analyzed. I don't think the IPCC is a trusted source.
Then use google scholar to read some. You find 99% of the arcticles with scientific evidence of global warminh being unfluenced by humans. 1% talking about how politics and corporations drives the naysayers.

Not much evidence to the contrary. But I give up, you cant be convinced and you wont read except what you want to.

Good day sir.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:50 AM   #13
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I read your cite, and it is stilted. Also, there is so much evidence that the "science" of global warming has been tainted, it is hard to take them seriously. Furthermore, most studies only take in the last 100 years or so of data, which, since the earth is likely 4 billion years old, is hardly enough to draw any conclusions.

The global warming scare is simply another path to more government control over our lives. That is the only part of the data which can be accurately interpreted.
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The global warming scare is simply another path to more government control over our lives. That is the only part of the data which can be accurately interpreted.
and here I will agree to disagree and agree. Politicians and Lobbyists and Corporations are the only ones to blame. EVERY time an environmental concern is brought to light by scientists it is lobbied against until regulation is seen as inevitable and then corporations use lobbiests again to help shape the regulations so they have as much control as possible. Public opinion plays that part but Lobbiests and corporations are very good at finding fringe scientists that need a buck to interpret data to their liking.

Climate change is happening and and always has. In the last 100 years as you so aptlyput, what has happened? Industrial revolution and if the Earth of 4 billion is so resistant then the data wouldnt show the effect that we ARE making.

But you can keep your head in the sand and I appreciate you at least reading what I cited.
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Old 11-29-2011, 05:35 PM   #15
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So who are the denyers now?

Let me get this straight, the global warming scientists (who have an economic stake in perpetuating the global warming myth) are good, main stream and are not to be questioned but the skeptical scientists are tools of the big corporations, are on the fringe and will say anything because they have an economic stake in dispelling the myth?

Garbage in, garbage out. You choose to accept the data and conclusions of the guardians of global warming "science" while skeptics claim that the data is clearly tainted and has been manipulated to substantiate the results of dubious computer models that can, at best, be interesting academic exercises, but should hardly be used as the basis for destroying the world economy.

They almost pulled off the biggest scam in history, but I don't think the claim that the science is settled is taken seriously anymore by anyone but Al Gore, whose financial empire is being threatened now. Maybe now there can be an honest debate about what impact humans actually have on the climate and what can be done, if anything, to solve the problem, if there is one.
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