trump can't pardon anyone if he's impeached.

[dilbert firestorm]

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...itution-117757


writer makes claim that Trump can't pardon anyone connected to his impeachment.


this includes Stone, Manafort, Papadoupolous and others.



thoughts on this?

[eccieuser9500]

. . . “cases of impeachment.” This phrase is often interpreted to mean that a president cannot use his pardon power to stop an impeachment case of someone else from proceeding in Congress. But the phrase should also be interpreted as preventing the worst abuse of the pardon power: an impeached president’s pardoning of cronies who have been convicted of crimes related to the president’s own wrongdoing.

The Supreme Court has never ruled on the meaning of the impeachment exception to the pardon power because such a pardon of a co-conspirator by a president who has been impeached is unprecedented.

If anyone is going to test the limits of how much power he can demonstrate, it would be him. He doesn't care how it looks. As long as he can get away with it. Stack the court, abuse your power, then get the SCOTUS to say . . . "oh well. Lifetime tenure bitches!"

[Clay Media]

The writer of this piece is a kike isn't he? Who else is sick of the Jews and the media? Bloodsucking parasites. I'm sure Trump's son in law hates him too. Time to turn on the showers and fire the oven. The allies wiped out the wrong regime.

[The_Waco_Kid]

this guy is full of shit. if Trump had been removed from office he'd be right. but Trump wasn't so he's just another revisionist asshole Law tard prof .. like Obama!

as long as Trump is the sitting president he can pardon anyone on the federal level. for any reason he wants. Bernie Madoff is begging for a pardon. i rather doubt Trump will pardon him. a report just the other day said about 80% of the money lost has been recovered. about 65% had already been disbursed with another batch in progress.


Trump won't pardon him, if he does i'd actually disagree with it. it wasn't a victimless crime. that asshole affected a lot of people's lives with that scam. many have died by now without any restitution. if Madoff had run a legit biz he'd probably be a billionaire now. at the least very well off. but no!! that was too hard! asshole. i want him to die in prison.


here is why he's a revisionist asshole who's full of shit ..


"But the phrase should also be interpreted as preventing the worst abuse of the pardon power: an impeached president’s pardoning of cronies who have been convicted of crimes related to the president’s own wrongdoing."


again .. he's full of shit. Trump was NOT found guilty of any wrongdoing. he was acquitted!


CASE .. DISMISSED!






BAHAHAAAAAAAAAA

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

If anyone is going to test the limits of how much power he can demonstrate, it would be him.

That's what Presidents do when Congress is busy fucking themselves!

If one need "PROOF" of the stupidity of the "theory" that he can't pardon, just say BILL CLINTON:

Pardons
Verla Jean Allen (1990 false statements to an agency of the United States)[6]
Nicholas M. Altiere (1983 importation of cocaine)
Bernice Ruth Altschul (1992 money laundering conspiracy)
Joe Anderson Jr. (1988 income tax evasion)
William Sterling Anderson (1987 defraudment of a financial institution, false statements to a financial institution, wire fraud)
Mansour Azizkhani (1984 false statements in bank loan applications)
Cleveland Victor Babin Jr. (1987 using the U.S. mail service to defraud)
Chris Harmon Bagley (1989 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
Scott Lynn Bane (unlawful distribution of marijuana)
Thomas Cleveland Barber (issuing worthless checks)
Peggy Ann Bargon (violation of the Lacey Act, violation of the Bald Eagle Protection Act)
David Roscoe Blampied (possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
William Arthur Borders Jr. (conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions, corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein, and traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery)
Arthur David Borel (odometer rollback)[7]
Douglas Charles Borel (odometer rollback)[7]
George Thomas Brabham (making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank)
Almon Glenn Braswell (1983 mail fraud and perjury)
Leonard Browder (illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud)
David Steven Brown (securities fraud and mail fraud)
Delores Caroylene Burleson, aka Delores Cox Burleson (possession of marijuana)
John H. Bustamante (wire fraud)
Mary Louise Campbell (unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps)
Eloida Candelaria (false information in registering to vote)
Dennis Sobrevinas Capili (filing false statements in alien registration)
Donna Denise Chambers (intent to distribute cocaine)
Douglas Eugene Chapman (bank fraud)
Ronald Keith Chapman (bank fraud)
Francisco Larois Chavez (aiding and abetting illegal entry of aliens)[7]
Henry Cisneros (former HUD Secretary)
Roger Clinton, Jr. (cocaine charges, half-brother of President Bill Clinton)[5]
Stuart Harris Cohn (illegal sale of commodity options)
David Marc Cooper (conspiracy to defraud the government)
Ernest Harley Cox Jr. (defraud of federally insured savings and loan)
John F. Cross Jr. (embezzlement)
Rickey Lee Cunningham (intent to distribute marijuana)
Richard Anthony De Labio (mail fraud)
John Deutch (former Director of Central Intelligence Agency)
Richard Douglas (false statements to a government agent)
Edward Downe, Jr. (wire fraud, false income tax returns and securities fraud)
Marvin Dean Dudley (false statements)
Larry Lee Duncan
Galen R. Elmore (convicted of cattle theft)
Robert Clinton Fain
Marcos Arcenio Fernandez
Alvarez Ferrouillet
Henry O. Flipper – guilty of "conduct unbecoming an officer" (1882)
William Dennis Fugazy
Lloyd Reid George
Louis Goldstein
Rubye Lee Gordon
Pincus Green
Robert Ivey Hamner
Samuel Price Handley
Woodie Randolph Handley
Jay Houston Harmon
Rick Hendrick
John Hemmingson
David S. Herdlinger
Debi Rae Huckleberry
Warren C. Hultgren Jr.
Donald Ray James
Stanley Pruet Jobe
Ruben H. Johnson
Linda Jones
Preston King (Civil rights activism)[8]
James Howard Lake
June Louise Lewis
Salim Bonnor Lewis
John Leighton Lodwick
Hildebrando Lopez
Jose Julio Luaces
James Timothy Maness
James Lowell Manning, (1982, aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate income tax return)
John Robert Martin
Frank Ayala Martinez
Silvia Leticia Beltran Martinez
John Francis McCormick
Susan H. McDougal (Whitewater controversy)
Howard Mechanic
Brook K. Mitchell Sr.
Samuel Loring Morison
Charles Wilfred Morgan III
Richard Anthony Nazzaro
Charlene Ann Nosenko
Vernon Raymond Obermeier
Miguelina Ogalde
David C. Owen
Robert W. Palmer
Kelli Anne Perhosky
Richard H. Pezzopane
Orville Rex Phillips
Vinson Stewart Poling Jr.
James G. Powell
Norman Lyle Prouse – former Captain for Northwest Airlines, imprisoned for flying while intoxicated[7]
Willie H. H. Pruitt Jr.[9]
Danny Martin Pursley Sr.
Charles D. Ravenel
William Clyde Ray
Alfredo Luna Regalado
Ildefonso Reynes Ricafort
Marc Rich
Howard Winfield Riddle
Richard Wilson Riley Jr. (cocaine and marijuana charges, father was Clinton's Education Secretary)[5]
Samuel Lee Robbins
Joel Gonzales Rodriguez
Michael James Rogers
Anna Louise Ross
Dan Rostenkowski – former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office scandal
Gerald Glen Rust
Jerri Ann Rust
Bettye June Rutherford
Gregory Lee Sands
Al Schwimmer
Albert A. Seretti Jr.
Patricia Campbell Hearst Shaw
Dennis Joseph Smith
Gerald Owen Smith
Stephen A. Smith
Jimmie Lee Speake
Charles Bernard Stewart
Marlena Francisca Stewart-Rollins
Fife Symington III – former Republican Arizona governor
Richard Lee Tannehill
Nicholas C. Tenaglia
Gary Allen Thomas
Larry Weldon Todd
Olga C. Trevino
Ignatious Vamvouklis
Patricia A. Van De Weerd
Christopher V. Wade
Bill Wayne Warmath
Jack Kenneth Watson
Donna Lynn Webb
Donald William Wells
Robert H. Wendt
Jack L. Williams
Kavin Arthur Williams
Robert Michael Williams
Jimmie Lee Wilson
Thelma Louise Wingate
Mitchell Couey Wood
Warren Stannard Wood
Dewey Worthey
Rick Allen Yale
Joseph A. Yasak
William Stanley Yingling
Phillip David Young
Keith Sanders
Darren Muci
John Scott (not a full pardon)
Amy Ralston Pofahl (drug money laundering, distribution and manufacturing Ecstasy)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_Bill_Clinton

Bill Clinton's "Commutations" are just above that list of 151 PARDONS!

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

this guy is full of shit.

As I've posted before RECENTLY ....

... because of the "Presumption of Innocence" we have ENJOYED in this country FROM ITS INCEPTION ... Trump is INNOCENT of the allegations made against him by ANYONE! He's not been CONVICTED! That includes the LOONS on here.

[R.M.]

That't nothing. Obama has 1927 pardons.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by R.M.

That't nothing. Obama has 1927 pardons.

Did you miss the point? And I'm not talking about the one on 9500's head.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

If anyone is going to test the limits of how much power he can demonstrate, it would be him. He doesn't care how it looks. As long as he can get away with it. Stack the court, abuse your power, then get the SCOTUS to say . . . "oh well. Lifetime tenure bitches!"

your racism and prejudice is as boundless as the cosmos, isn't it? it must be, for you to be so hateful. you would believe any liberal lie to justify your blatant racism and prejudice wouldn't you? anything to disparage Trump, in any way. you'd blame him for the air you breathe if it suited you.


this hardly surprises me. your racism and prejudice is a clear and present danger to society. the next time you want to confront a prejudiced racist and look them in the eye don't cut yourself shaving.

[LexusLover]

Waco ... you give these Loons way too much "air time"!

Like rabid dogs, they snap and snarl at thin air. And their nonsense is repeatedly debunked!

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Waco ... you give these Loons way too much "air time"!

Like rabid dogs, they snap and snarl at thin air. And their nonsense is repeatedly debunked!

do you think i should tell them that the conservatives who post here actually correct each other if we are factually wrong? that we actually sometimes disagree? while they would never do so? because it doesn't fit their agenda of "Hate Trump for the sake of hating Trump?"



do you think that would blow up their minds?


BAHHAHAAAAAA

[oeb11]

Ah, 9500 and the Fascist DPST's !
Politico never stops trying to push their narrative!
Without Lies and hypocrisy - they would be Silent!!!!
LOL

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

do you think i should tell them that the conservatives who post

do you think that would blow up their minds?

Every time they "debate" it blows up in their FACES....

... as they cannibalize each other on national TV!

The Demented Ex-VP won South Carolina!!!!!!!!!

What does that tell you about the DimWits?

IMO The Demented Ex-VP is nothing more than Canon Fodder! On Inaugural Day 2021 he'll show up to be sworn!

Sad for him and EVEN SADDER FOR THEM! They actually believe he's qualified to run a one-car funeral?

[oeb11]

Biden will be accompanied by AOC to the inauguration in 2021 - invited or no

remember when first elected - AOC spouted she would go to DC to be inaugurated and sign bills.

The LSM cannot wait for it.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Sad for him and EVEN SADDER FOR THEM! They actually believe he's qualified to run a one-car funeral?

he'd get lost in the parking lot ..