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04-25-2012, 01:11 PM
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Secret Service Hobbying in Columbia and Getting Busted
I almost never actually post anything with substance outside of a few funny pictures, but I had an observation I thought I'd share.
I've been following this recent issue with the Secret Service getting busted in Columbia for prostitution or, for hobbying just like the rest of us.
It got me thinking, did they even break the law? So, I looked it up.
Prostitution is legal in Columbia as long as it's in defined location. The hotel the infraction occured in, is in one of these defined locations.
So, once again, the media is judge and jury for only reporting their sensationalised part of the story and the Secret Service is crusifying, firing and dragging this out in the media, making it a public political issue for what reason?
They broke no law. They commited no crime. So, who the hell cares? (Who the hell cares anyway?)
Now they're accusing the prostitutes of being Russian spies....Yes, Russian spies.....Dun dun duuuuuuuun......
Well, at least she was a hot commie.
Trip
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04-25-2012, 01:41 PM
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The girls could have been Cuban, Venezuelan, Bolivian, or paid Colombian chicas for a country who wanted information of any kind. Imagine the information these guys have on the itinerary of the most powerful man in the world. Still, these are some of the smartest people in our government and hopefully they wouldn't be stupid enough to devulge sensitive info. (I said smartest, not the ones with the most common sense or good judgment). There is also the blackmail consideration that might be held on these guys. I met my (late) Colombian Goddess while I was down there on Air Force duty, but it was not in the compromising situation as these agents. I regret the super hassle they put her through to get her clearance for us to even go together let alone get married. Colombian women are some of the most beautiful women on the face of the Earth, so I can understand the attraction,
The U.S. Government (IMHO) was at fault for sending these guys to a hotel where they could get into trouble even though, as you well point out, it was a legal venue. Yes, the Secret Service was down there to set up and prepare for BHO's trip. They had a job to do, but even when I was down there, although I was busy from 10 to 14 hours a day sometimes, I still found time for recreation. Their off duty time should not have been scrutinized by the reporters looking to win a Pulitzer Prize. Perhaps these reporters are exempt from scrutiny of any kind. I''ve read and watched on television where they get defensive and super angry when they're put on the stand for perceived unbecoming behavior.
Bottom line, Trip: "Who the hell cares?" Right on, I don't either.
However, thanks for that nice pic. She's definitely a looker and I, too wouldn't have hesitated to jump into the sack with her. LOL.
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04-25-2012, 01:47 PM
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just like some of us.. the guys were thinking with the wrong head... with her looks, it's certainly understandable, especially since there were no laws broken, and it doesn't appear there was any dereliction of duty.. it's a shame it's made into such a big deal.. So if the prez was in Denmark, could his staff inhale some of the local herbs...? Nah, probably not.. nor see any of the ladies there, where it's also legal.
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04-25-2012, 07:10 PM
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If you work for the secret service, "close" to the president, and are traveling on government business for a presidential visit, you should realize that if you get caught with a prostitute, you're going to be in big trouble.
Forget the morality or legality. They deserve to lose their jobs for aggravated stupidity.
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04-25-2012, 11:09 PM
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04-26-2012, 08:05 AM
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If I read correctly in one article, if the guy had given her the $150 fee for her services instead of the $37 dollars he was trying to give her, no one would have ever heard about it. The argument that ensued from that is what drew attention to the whole transaction!
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04-26-2012, 06:54 PM
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Always pay your hookers and your gambling debts first!
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If I read correctly in one article, if the guy had given her the $150 fee for her services instead of the $37 dollars he was trying to give her, no one would have ever heard about it. The argument that ensued from that is what drew attention to the whole transaction!
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EXACTLY. What kind of a loser goes to a third world country and doesn't pay his hooker? I mean, we aren't talking a $5000 escort for the night in Beverly Hills. This wasn't a case of the hooker trying to rob the agents. This was a case of real stupidity. That's the problem. That's the crime.
The guy shorts his hooker, and you're going to trust him to take a bullet for you?
Furthermore, I heard the dim wits were even mouthing off at the bar where they picked up the hookers, that they were there to "protect the president"...wow.
Every one of them deserve to be fired...and even charged with a crime regarding the fact that they even mentioned that they were associated with the President of the United States.
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04-26-2012, 10:33 PM
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Those guys need to get tips on how not to get caught.
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04-27-2012, 09:33 AM
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Screw all that... I want the chick in the pic... and I'll pay her in full!! No negotiations!!!!
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04-27-2012, 10:41 AM
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You're a wise man, Nuglet. $150 for that beautiful, sexy, young, lusty babe? You bet I would, in a nano second even. Guess you and I are smarter than the guys whom I credited earlier were some of the smartest people in our government. Perhaps, I owe the community a Mea Culpa.
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04-27-2012, 10:47 AM
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You're a wise man, Nuglet. $150 for that beautiful, sexy, young, lusty babe?
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I bet her rates have gone up recently.
Yet another reason the SS guys should be fired for gross stupidity. There's just too much to be gained by various people publicizing something like this.
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04-27-2012, 10:47 AM
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If they had done that AFTER Obama left, the uproar would probably been an upwhine. Yeah, you don't stiff a woman and then try to stiff her. At least "Ernesto" didn't kick the door down with his six buds and their AKs.
If you're that stupid you don't belong driving a Segway around a mall.
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05-03-2012, 08:50 AM
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Stupid is as stupid does...
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If they had done that AFTER Obama left, the uproar would probably been an upwhine.
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The uproar would have been the same no matter the political party controlling the White House...and I think turning this fiasco into a political football to kick around is a bit disingenuous. This isn't a partisan issue. This is an issue of extreme stupidity.
EDIT: I just realized that you most likely meant AFTER Obama left Colombia when you said "after Obama left"...but I will leave my original statement in tact in case someone wants to play political football.
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05-03-2012, 02:00 PM
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Maybe this is a good thing. We can get rid of some dumbshits in sensitive government positions before they do some real harm.
Sort of like when a provider or client reveals his inner psycho on the phone, e-mail, or on the board and you can cross them off your list before you meet them in person.
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05-04-2012, 11:40 PM
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Hey All,
For those of you still interested, this came on my AOL newsweb, courtesy of the Huffington Post. The picture they showed was the same one Trip
BOGOTA, Colombia — A woman who says she was the prostitute who triggered the U.S. Secret Service scandal in Colombia said Friday that the agents involved were "idiots" for letting it happen, and declared that if she were a spy and sensitive information was available, she could have easily obtained it.
The woman said she spent five hours in a Cartagena, Colombia, hotel room with an agent, and while she barely got cab fare out of him, she could have gotten information that would have compromised the security of U.S. President Barack Obama if the agent had any. "Totally," she replied when asked.
"The man slept all night," said the woman, who was identified by her lawyer as Dania Londono Suarez. "If I had wanted to, I could have gone through all his documents, his wallet, his suitcase."
She said in the 90-minute interview with Colombia's W Radio conducted in Spain that no U.S. investigator had been in touch with her, although reporters descended on her home a week after the incident when a taxi driver led them to it.
"They could track me anywhere in the world that I go but they haven't done so," she said, speaking in Spanish. "If the Secret Service agents were idiots, imagine the investigators."
That alarmed a U.S. congressman who is monitoring the case.
Rep. Peter King, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, issued a statement on Friday expressing concern that investigators "have been unable to locate and interview two of the female foreign nationals involved," including Londono. "I have asked the Secret Service for an explanation of how they have failed to find this woman when the news media seems to have no trouble doing so."
Eight Secret Service agents have lost their jobs in the scandal, although there is no evidence any of the 10 women interviewed by U.S. investigators for their roles in it have any connection to terrorist groups, King said earlier this week.
In the interview, Londono called the Secret Service agents caught up in the scandal "fools for being from Obama's security and letting all this happen."
"When I said, `I'm going to call the police so they pay me my money,' and it didn't bother them, didn't they see the magnitude of the problem?" she said.
Londono said the man she slept with never identified himself as a member of Obama's advance security detail for the April 14-15 Summit of the Americas and said she saw nothing in his room that would have indicated the man's job other than a brown uniform.
Londono said the man had agreed to pay her $800, but that she never would have made a public fuss about his failure to pay had she known he was part of Obama's security detail and realized the repercussions it would have for her.
"My life is practically destroyed," she said. "My name is in the gutter."
Her photo has been splashed all over the Internet since a newspaper took it off Facebook a week after the incident, when she said she fled Colombia fearing for her life.
"I was afraid they might retaliate," she said, saying she feared for herself and her family after looking up Secret Service on the Internet and seeing that some agents were sharpshooters.
The mother of a 9-year-old boy she said she had when she was 17, Londono said she would happily sell her story now and pose nude.
She said she had contracted one of Colombia's top lawyers, Abelardo De la Espriella. He confirmed her identity for The Associated Press and said she called him for the first time earlier Friday, recommended by the radio host who interviewed Londono.
He said he didn't see that there was any criminal infraction in the incident. Prostitution is legal in Colombia.
"Let's see how we can help her," De la Espriella said of Londono.
Londono appeared in the interview, part of which was also broadcast by Colombia's Caracol TV, with just a little makeup, her fingernails painted white and wearing a tight green dress.
W Radio asked that the location of the interview not be disclosed for Londono's security, and she later gave an interview to the Spanish radio network Cadena Ser, which said it was recorded in one of its studios.
Londono giggled nervously and refused to answer prying questions from reporters from several international news media during the W Radio interview on topics such as the nature of her sex act with the Secret Service agent.
She said that the desk clerk at the Hotel Caribe called at 6:30 a.m. to tell her it was time to leave, and the agent addressed her with an insult in telling her to get out.
Dania said it was nearly three hours after the man kicked her out of the room and she alerted a Colombian policeman stationed on the hallway before three colleagues of the agent, who had refused to open his door after giving her $30, scraped together $250 and paid her, she said.
"'The only thing they said was `Please, please. No police, no police,'" she said.
Later that day, April 12, the agent and 11 other Secret Service colleagues who may have also had prostitutes in their rooms at the five-star hotel were sent home, under investigation for alleged misconduct.
Londono's story agrees with what investigators in Washington have disclosed.
She said she met the man, one of 10-11 agents in a Cartagena bar, and accompanied him back to the hotel, stopping on the way to buy condoms.
She said the other agents at the bar were all drunk.
"They bought alcohol like they were buying water," she said, though she never saw any evidence that any of them used illegal drugs.
She said the man she was with was only moderately intoxicated. She said she did not know his name.
Londono said that she went to Dubai after the scandal broke and spent time with someone she had previously met in Cartagena. She would not say whether that person had been a client.
She said she was charging between $600 and $800 for sex while working in Cartagena and only accepted foreigners as clients, considering herself an "escort."
Asked why she became a prostitute, Londono said "it's an easy life" that would allow her to study and provide for her son.
At one point in the interview, her mother was brought in by phone, and described the shame she felt.
Londono said her mother did not know until the scandal broke that she was a prostitute and had been medicated for depression.
She said her son was unaware of his mother's celebrity, and said she considers herself finished with prostitution.
"This has cured me of it all," Londono said. "Even if I'm not hired for the magazine covers, I will never do it again."
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