Reviews for clients!!??

[Snow Lioness]

I think the providers should be able to write reviews for clients that are hidden like the ROS for the providers! I think it would be safer for providers and easier when it comes to screening.

[beamj75]

Dont yall already do that in the powder room?

[algrace]

The topic created quite a discussion in Kansas City:
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Here's my take on the matter:

Originally Posted by algrace

I don't doubt that there are hobbyists that have a true desire to be great lovers. I agree with the opinion that greater overall satisfaction during our shared time together occurs as a result of mutual pleasure. There are also hobbyists that aren't there to perform for her whatsoever. The hobbyist may believe his 'performance' is making timely contact, being accurate and discrete with the donation, and especially honoring the providers comfort level with activities. He isn't getting paid for his time. That doesn't mean he should be disrespectful or uncleanly.
A rating system can improve from the OKs given through P411. Depending solely upon P411 OKs or the presence of reviews posted by a hobbyist is not the safest or best method of screening. Providers have the opportunity to turn down or postpone appointment requests for any reason, the most valid of which is screening. Personal details about the hobbyist should be held in strict confidence not out in a review thread. There are backdoor channels for additional information to be shared among the providers. Feedback can be freely sought by the provider needing/wanting it.

[ben dover]

As soon as providers start paying the clients. Does Walmart review shoppers? I get the safety aspect but that's what screening is for. And yes you have the powder room. BD

[skbinks]

I just read that other thread algrace mentioned. I could deal with Destiny's suggestion:

Originally Posted by DestinyInKC

I think it should be less of a written review and more of a check yes or no for hygiene, on time, politeand would you see him again..
And possibly a "other" section in case you need to let them know about something that could be dangerous or something?
details of the appointment wouldn't be important, just basically use it for help screening.

It's not really a review like the ROS but something that is more of a safety thing. I have heard that some of the Ladies "might" have heard about some of the ROS's, I think that could also happen if there were ROS's on the guys and some guys are more sensitive than others.

If a guy is average in every way but history has made him believe that if he isn't hung like a horse he is inadequate and he hears that a provider said something like, "You won't have to worry about him stretching you out and you can probably even take a nap during sex", can you imagine what the guy would do?

I do think, for the most part, that women are a little more discrete then men, until they are pissed off and even then are probably still more discrete, so Destiny's idea of the checkboxes and just an area for saying if there might be something dangerous, for me, that would be okay.

Myself, I really don't like writing reviews that much but do it for the free access, for the provider, and it gives me something to remind me of my visit with her. So far, I have always copied my review and PM'd it to the provider I am writing about. I won't say anything to anybody else in public that I wouldn't say to her face, good or bad.

Maybe I have just been lucky or learned from reading other reviews before seeing someone, but since I started eccie, I have never had anything bad enough to say about a provider that I felt it should be posted.

Now, everybody knows I talk to much so nobody has to put that in a review. In conclusion, if it is just for your safety, I say go for it, but keep it away from the guys eyes. Kind of like the P411 Okay's, from my understanding it is just that, either you have an Okay or you don't.

[cyrax]

I don't know..our egos will be hurt.

[normalguy21]

Why not a penis chart too?

Then us gents can implement a vagina tightness scale based upon a base line penis size. with variance given per how many session,s a day per day that day . Would that make it easier to pre judge how long it will take to get the guy to pop and be on his way.

[Satire] Had you going didnt I ?

Half way through i was being cussed at i bet .

look at N.R they have that on there site and its pretty much a useless site anymore .

I,am down for whatever as long as it keeps everyone safe .

[Hermosa]

=Snow Kitten;1056502577]I think the providers should be able to write reviews for clients that are hidden like the ROS for the providers! I think it would be safer for providers and easier when it comes to screening.[/QUOTE]
I'm one of those guys who is only on this site. I can get all the information I need to make a safe as possible choice. I see pictures, profiles, reviews, I can PM other guys and ask for suggestions. All these things we guys use to make the "Best" choice we can.
My response to your question is why aren't you ladies doing this also? You can see reviews (excluding the ROS), you can see who they were with ( do any of you ladies chat with each other?), you can see what other posting the gents do ( this can give you a good idea of what the guy is about), and you have whatever you see in the Powder Room ( I would love to be a fly on the wall there). I am more than supportive of you ladies being safe and comfortable in your choices. I think nobody or any other site will help you feel safe with a potential client than your sharing with each other. Is the guy nice or scary? Polite or pushy? Did he respect your donation request or try to barter you down? These things you ladies will only get from each other. So, why not?

[Kylie Nicole]

Originally Posted by Snow Kitten

I think the providers should be able to write reviews for clients that are hidden like the ROS for the providers! I think it would be safer for providers and easier when it comes to screening.

I completely agree! Anything to ease the screening process for both parties would be great.

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[5T3V3]

I am not really sure if any of us could handle the truth about what you really think about us. I think we would all just a soon live under the dilution that when you said, "Oh, my, you are the BEST lover I ever had! No one else can make me cum like that!" that you were telling us the honest truth and leave it at that. And before everyone starts screaming private ... private ... private ... let's all just put on our big boy and big girl pants and acknowledge that we all secretly know that if you girls wanna know what is a review that you can find out, whether it is finding some ho with bogus john account or talking some john into showing it to you and it will be the same with these "private" reviews.

speaking as someone with a case of OCD ... if you post it ... I will have to know what you said about me ... if it does happen I predickt a fresh round of "he said, she said" with a big side of get even ... but I really don't care either way!

[Hermosa]

Originally Posted by 5T3V3

I am not really sure if any of us could handle the truth about what you really think about us. I think we would all just a soon live under the dilution that when you said, "Oh, my, you are the BEST lover I ever had! No one else can make me cum like that!" that you were telling us the honest truth and leave it at that. And before everyone starts screaming private ... private ... private ... let's all just put on our big boy and big girl pants and acknowledge that we all secretly know that if you girls wanna know what is a review that you can find out, whether it is finding some ho with bogus john account or talking some john into showing it to you and it will be the same with these "private" reviews.

speaking as someone with a case of OCD ... if you post it ... I will have to know what you said about me ... if it does happen I predickt a fresh round of "he said, she said" with a big side of get even ... but I really don't care either way!

I really doubt any of us really don't know and understand that these ladies are just great at feeding our needs and ego's. I also think that most really are more interested in their safety than they are about our "inch and a half of dangling death" or how our request for two pops only resulted in maybe one???? I'm sure they joke about how silly most of us are anyway. But, that's what makes them so special. But nobody will help them feel safer meeting a new guy than another lady who has been with the guy. I think that is what they are requesting. I'm just surprised that they aren't finding a way to do exactly than already.

[GuddKitty2589]

I Also Agree with Reviews for the Gentlemen.
I like the check box idea although i would like a ROS on Clients. Sometimes details are key! I have had Clients that where Perfectly Screened and then in Person was a whole other story. Clients who are A little Rough, Clients that short change Providers and even The ones That are Overly Rude, Are Dangerous , or Just Overall DISRESPECTFUL. There Should be a black list. Believe it or not fellas us ladies go through just AS much as you guys if not more. Hell i just got Robbed the other Day. We need our own Review Section!

[Guest110416]

Originally Posted by Snow Kitten

I think the providers should be able to write reviews for clients that are hidden like the ROS for the providers! I think it would be safer for providers and easier when it comes to screening.

Originally Posted by Kylie Nicole

I completely agree! Anything to ease the screening process for both parties would be great.

Providers do have a review section for their clients, just not on here, which by the way, this website is for the hobbyists not providers. But, if you really want to do reviews of hobbyists, then you have to pay us money. I know you are not willing to do that, and lets not forget, a guy may go YMMV on you because he can, while taking 100% of your money and giving you a 20% service return rate. Besides, if providers did review a hobbyist and he could at least see the recommendation, many of these ugly and/or old fat farts would never be seen or be afraid of what a provider will put in the review and ultimately not bother seeing her.

As far as screening goes, there is no fool proof method and reviews are far from it, take a look at some of these providers who have outstanding reviews by multiple guys, then when another goes to see her based on those reviews, he is thoroughly disappointed. This is a risky business, LE, pimps, unhinged clients, ect. so if you want to participate, you have to know what you are up against and be always learning and wary.

Originally Posted by GuddKitty2589

I Also Agree with Reviews for the Gentlemen.
I like the check box idea although i would like a ROS on Clients. Sometimes details are key! I have had Clients that where Perfectly Screened and then in Person was a whole other story. Clients who are A little Rough, Clients that short change Providers and even The ones That are Overly Rude, Are Dangerous , or Just Overall DISRESPECTFUL. There Should be a black list. Believe it or not fellas us ladies go through just AS much as you guys if not more. Hell i just got Robbed the other Day. We need our own Review Section!

I believe there is a black list or do not see list out there on hobbyists, not to mention the other provider back channels. There is no guarantee in this business that if a guy has 100 reviews and 150 p411 OKs that he is not going to snap and be an asshole or worse to you. The risk is always going to be there, review section or not. If you want to be 100% sure, go work for someone for a salary. Trouble is, you cannot half ass your work and get to keep your job like providers get to play the YMMV card at their leisure with many having WKs to back them up for doing it.

[SinsOfTheFlesh]

Originally Posted by Snow Kitten

I think the providers should be able to write reviews for clients that are hidden like the ROS for the providers! I think it would be safer for providers and easier when it comes to screening.

No. Just no.

Originally Posted by beamj75

Dont yall already do that in the powder room?

Good God no.

Originally Posted by ben dover

As soon as providers start paying the clients. Does Walmart review shoppers? I get the safety aspect but that's what screening is for. And yes you have the powder room. BD

Exactly.

This is the reply I posted in the thread Algrace linked to from the KC board.

Originally Posted by SinsOfTheFlesh

It is simple. Providers DO review in our own way. That is essentially what the reference system is.

The information that hobbyist and provider feel is important in our decision making process is simply different. Hobbyists want to know if a provider's pictures are real and accurate, menu and price, skills, attitude, etc. Information that will let them know if they will have a good time, and make sure they don't wind up wearing silver bracelets.

As a provider, it really isn't a priority to know if the gentleman that I am about to see is the world's greatest DATY specialist. That would be a bonus of course, but I'm interested in knowing if the gent is reliable, does he have a tendency to camp out, is he respectful, does he have hygiene issues, any hint of abusiveness or violence, and of course make sure he isn't LE.

I don't need a review to find out the above information. A simple reference will suffice, which is why references are basically our form of reviews.

The idea of writing a review in a similar format to the reviews that men write would be the height of indiscretion. Not only that, but if women routinely wrote reviews, and men knew that we wrote reviews, it would completely change the dynamic of an appointment. Imagine getting ready to see a lady who has written half a dozen reviews. Of those reviews, three were very positive ("Oh my GAWD he was sooooo huge!!!!"), and the other three were, well, not so nice ("I think he thought my clit was possessed, he couldn't get within 10 feet of it"). How would that affect your mindset? Can you say performance anxiety? LOL. No, the point of this hobby is to make sure the guy has a fantastic time. I love a good orgasm as much as the next lady, but this IS also a business. If I don't get off, its ok because that isn't what I'm being paid to do.

Let the guys write the reviews. Let the ladies continue to provide references. Both systems work as intended, and provide the pertinent information necessary to keep our little hobby world going round.

That about sums it up.