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Old 03-19-2019, 01:17 PM   #1
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Be careful what you wish for...law of unintended consequences.
https://www.redstate.com/tladuke/201...-popular-vote/
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Old 03-19-2019, 02:20 PM   #2
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if this would affect a presidential election, lawsuits will fly

talk about a stupid and selfish way to destroy the republic
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Old 03-19-2019, 02:50 PM   #3
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I am surprised this is not in court already
Sounds like a SC Case to me.
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Old 03-19-2019, 03:07 PM   #4
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Be careful what you wish for...law of unintended consequences.
https://www.redstate.com/tladuke/201...-popular-vote/
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I am surprised this is not in court already
Sounds like a SC Case to me.
It's strictly symbolic. It would take a Constitutional Amendment to abolish the Electoral College in favor of a popular vote for POTUS. Constitutional amendments require approval of 2/3 votes in the House and Senate, followed by ratification by 3/4 of all state legislatures. Right now less than 1/4 of all states are in favor of this idea. It has a snowball's chance in hell of going anywhere.
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It's strictly symbolic. It would take a Constitutional Amendment to abolish the Electoral College in favor of a popular vote for POTUS. Constitutional amendments require approval of 2/3 votes in the House and Senate, followed by ratification by 3/4 of all state legislatures. Right now less than 1/4 of all states are in favor of this idea. It has a snowball's chance in hell of going anywhere.
Much like most liberal schemes.
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and the question remains, exactly what do these people love about America?
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Old 03-19-2019, 04:29 PM   #8
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This is interesting - the Issue is not about repealing the electoral college, but by-passing it by assigning a State's electoral college votes to whichever candidate wins the Popular vote, regardless of how the State's population votes:
Colorado has become the latest state — and the first swing state — to join a group pledging to elect presidents based on who wins the national popular vote.
Eleven other states and the District of Columbia have signed onto the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, an agreement that requires those states to select their presidential electors based on who wins the most individual votes nationwide, regardless of which candidate wins in the state.


12th Amendment governs the Electoral College - but no mention of how States assign their EC voters; Text follows



The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;
The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;
The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.[a]
The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.[1]
(Note: This provision was superseded by Sections 1 and 3 of the Twentieth Amendment in 1933.)



This NPV compact is a round-about way to subvert the Constitution and EC without a Constitutional Amendment, and subvert to popular vote in a State which goes against the majority Vote.



Sounds like a Constitutional Supreme Court Case to me.
I wonder where the Conservative court challenge stands to this, if there is one, a court challenge is deserved.

And More DPST dirty tricks to subvert our Constitution as written.
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Old 03-19-2019, 04:42 PM   #9
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The electoral fucked up last time. They could have elected any conservative they wanted. They still put Trump in office. History books will mock them for that.


That said, It will likely be liberals filing suit if the election goes to a conservative be a use the won the popular and lost the electoral vote. It's happened twice now for liberals, the pendulum will swing the other way at some point. A republican will lose electoral vote but win the popular vote and then democrats will complain.
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Old 03-19-2019, 04:46 PM   #10
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I think the electoral districts should be weighted by tax revenues collected.

A smaller district that shells out as much or more taxes as a bigger one should have a bigger voice.

I think the little guy should have a voice. I don't think the rich guy shouldn't have any and be forced to float the little guy because he was out numbered.
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Whoa! I misunderstood the bill. Now I get it.

Here's the problem for the short-sided idiots who are pushing this NPV route. It dis-empowers the voters in those states that approve it. What happens if a Republican loses New York and Cali but wins the national popular vote? Betcha the Dems in those two states would be furious, especially if it cost them what would have been an Electoral College victory under normal (non-NPV) rules.

You're right - this may have to be adjudicated by SCOTUS.

The irony is while the Dems attack the EC because it gives unequal weight to voters in different states, this NPV runaround would dilute the weight of voters in states that adopt it even more!
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No federal funding for Colorado.

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Whoa! I misunderstood the bill. Now I get it.

Here's the problem for the short-sided idiots who are pushing this NPV route. It dis-empowers the voters in those states that approve it. What happens if a Republican loses New York and Cali but wins the national popular vote? Betcha the Dems in those two states would be furious, especially if it cost them what would have been an Electoral College victory under normal (non-NPV) rules.

You're right - this may have to be adjudicated by SCOTUS.

The irony is while the Dems attack the EC because it gives unequal weight to voters in different states, this NPV runaround would dilute the weight of voters in states that adopt it even more!

Thank You, LL
It is not a bill before Congress.

It is a multistate Compact.

Needs a legal challenge before it gets out of hand.
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It is not a bill before Congress.

It is a multistate Compact.

Needs a legal challenge before it gets out of hand.
Has anyone run this by Vladimir yet? As long as Trump is in there Vladimir gets the final say
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