How to get the most for your money at the clubs

[oldbutstillgoing]

There used to be a thread at the top of the Forum, it has suggestions on how to get the best time at the clubs. When the site was remade did it simply get deleted, or, did it get unsticky and fell to a deep page? If the thread is no longer there or cannot be a sticky to the the top again, is there any reason we cannot make a new thread about how to get the most for your time and money at the clubs?

[mtabsw]

Get a roll of 100 1's and 400 in 20's Stop by the front door hottie - flash your roll - and pay the cheap door fee early on a weekday

Go inside - go tip a few on stage for a $1 each and get a look at what you probably can't get.

Leave

Go to an AMP and rent 2 for a double - even if they don't speak english you can probably get a rim while you're fucking and/or getting blown by the other one.

or

Connect with Lexy Reed

You'll be drained, content and probably have enough for a beer on the way home.

[VeryClean]

Originally Posted by mtabsw

Get a roll of 100 1's and 400 in 20's Stop by the front door hottie - flash your roll - and pay the cheap door fee early on a weekday

Go inside - go tip a few on stage for a $1 each and get a look at what you probably can't get.

Leave

Go to an AMP and rent 2 for a double - even if they don't speak english you can probably get a rim while you're fucking and/or getting blown by the other one.

or

Connect with Lexy Reed

You'll be drained, content and probably have enough for a beer on the way home.

Excellent advice.

If you want to get the most value for your money, then strip clubs are not for you.

Your best bet is visiting one of the well known AMPs or visiting an established legendary independent provider like Lexy Reed, Allegra Hope, Pistol Marks, Nicole Cox etc.

[oldbutstillgoing]

Originally Posted by VeryClean

Excellent advice.

If you want to get the most value for your money, then strip clubs are not for you.

Your best bet is visiting one of the well known AMPs or visiting an established legendary independent provider like Lexy Reed, Allegra Hope, Pistol Marks, Nicole Cox etc.

I understand your point but, there are many many guys who will not agree with you at all about strip clubs not being a good value. I never go to amps. I don't like them. I like strip clubs and enjoy going to the lot. The question posed was where is the thread that was here before? And if it's okay to start a new one if we can't get that one back. The thread would focus on how to improve your experience at the clubs. Not argue about what's a better value clubs or amps. I happen to get great value for my money at strip clubs. But a lot of that is how you measure value.

So perhaps a mod could tell us if it's okay to start a new thread like that and what restrictions might be in place. Or, if we can get the old thread back and update it. It had some really good information and suggestions

[VeryClean]

Originally Posted by oldbutstillgoing

I understand your point but, there are many many guys who will not agree with you at all about strip clubs not being a good value. I never go to amps. I don't like them. I like strip clubs and enjoy going to the lot. The question posed was where is the thread that was here before? And if it's okay to start a new one if we can't get that one back. The thread would focus on how to improve your experience at the clubs. Not argue about what's a better value clubs or amps. I happen to get great value for my money at strip clubs. But a lot of that is how you measure value.

So perhaps a mod could tell us if it's okay to start a new thread like that and what restrictions might be in place. Or, if we can get the old thread back and update it. It had some really good information and suggestions

Fair enough. I do get your point and respect your preference for strip clubs. I also know that some guys are not that into east asian women and that's one more reason why they would prefer strip clubs over amps. I hope the old thread can be resurrected or a new thread be allowed to take it's place and stickied at the top of the forum.

[oldbutstillgoing]

Just for discussions, what I have found after having been to both, is they are very different experiences. Some guys prefer one over the other. And that's fine. There are some things I like about the strip club experience.

I typically meet several male friends there so we socialize, have some drinks, eat, and flirt with a bunch of pretty girls. So there's a definite socialization factor with a strip club experience you cannot get at a nap. It's not for everybody but that is what me and my friends enjoy. When it comes to the girls themselves, I get to see a lot of them that I might not otherwise meet. So it's kind of a see what you're getting before you buy it type of thing. I have always found both providers and dancers respond better once you become a regular. And I assume it's the same at the amps. But, I can become a regular at a strip club for a cheaper and becoming a regular add an amp or with a provider. At least most providers. I enjoy, and have a better experience with, women I get to know a bit before we do anything. So in a strip club I have a chance to talk to and get to know the dancers better before I decide which ones I want to spend my money on.

And it doesn't have to be especially expensive. By knowing when to go and who to see, I can have a very enjoyable afternoon or evening at a club for about the same cost as seeing a provider for an hour. If I go on a drink special day for example I and the girls can have plenty to drink without breaking the bank. Knowing when the good food specials are helps with the eating part if that's what you want to do. And because the girls know me, I typically get a better level of service then some Schmo walking in off the street. The management knows me because I'm there as a regular. So, when I do go to get dancers from a girl they tend to leave me alone. Which means we can do more then if they're on top of us all the time.

So for $200 or less, I can meet my friends, have some drinks, eat some food, and get what I want from a dancer. And I don't mean a quick blowjob or some reverse cowgirl while we were scanning the room for a manager. I mean MPFS. So for me to spend $200 for three or four hours of an enjoyable afternoon relaxing and having fun, it's hard for me not to see that as a great value. And sometimes I spend far less than 200. Heck, I know this one dancer that if I plan things out with her in advance, she will bring in a civilian friend of hers and I get doubles full service back in the VIP room for two hundred bucks total. And they're both very attractive young women.

[VeryClean]

Originally Posted by oldbutstillgoing

Just for discussions, what I have found after having been to both, is they are very different experiences. Some guys prefer one over the other. And that's fine. There are some things I like about the strip club experience.

I typically meet several male friends there so we socialize, have some drinks, eat, and flirt with a bunch of pretty girls. So there's a definite socialization factor with a strip club experience you cannot get at a nap. It's not for everybody but that is what me and my friends enjoy. When it comes to the girls themselves, I get to see a lot of them that I might not otherwise meet. So it's kind of a see what you're getting before you buy it type of thing. I have always found both providers and dancers respond better once you become a regular. And I assume it's the same at the amps. But, I can become a regular at a strip club for a cheaper and becoming a regular add an amp or with a provider. At least most providers. I enjoy, and have a better experience with, women I get to know a bit before we do anything. So in a strip club I have a chance to talk to and get to know the dancers better before I decide which ones I want to spend my money on.

And it doesn't have to be especially expensive. By knowing when to go and who to see, I can have a very enjoyable afternoon or evening at a club for about the same cost as seeing a provider for an hour. If I go on a drink special day for example I and the girls can have plenty to drink without breaking the bank. Knowing when the good food specials are helps with the eating part if that's what you want to do. And because the girls know me, I typically get a better level of service then some Schmo walking in off the street. The management knows me because I'm there as a regular. So, when I do go to get dancers from a girl they tend to leave me alone. Which means we can do more then if they're on top of us all the time.

So for $200 or less, I can meet my friends, have some drinks, eat some food, and get what I want from a dancer. And I don't mean a quick blowjob or some reverse cowgirl while we were scanning the room for a manager. I mean MPFS. So for me to spend $200 for three or four hours of an enjoyable afternoon relaxing and having fun, it's hard for me not to see that as a great value. And sometimes I spend far less than 200. Heck, I know this one dancer that if I plan things out with her in advance, she will bring in a civilian friend of hers and I get doubles full service back in the VIP room for two hundred bucks total. And they're both very attractive young women.

Thanks for sharing your experiences. That has definitely widened my perspective to an extent. I've had several negative experiences with strip clubs. SCs where not only did I have to pay entry fees and buy overpriced drinks but was also ripped off repeatedly by strippers. A stripper at a Las Vegas strip club once told me she will do all kinds of things to me if I paid over 400 dollars for a private VIP room, drinks for the both of us etc. This was after I had bought several lap dances from her and I was pretty drunk at that point. When we went to the VIP room, she refused to do anything because she said there are cameras. She just flat out lied to me to make me spend the money. Strippers have ripped me off in a similar fashion in other states too.

I take some responsibility for that. I was a newbie at the strip clubs I visited so I didn't receive the privileges that a regular received. I was also gullible & naive (and drunk) and didn't know how to properly interact with strippers. Strippers are like sharks who will tear apart anyone who isn't prepared and street smart. Heck, I've heard plenty of stories of strippers even ripping off their long-time regulars one fine day just because they can. Also, I've never visited a DFW strip club and I understand the strip clubs here are more affordable and more amenable to extras as compared to out of state strip clubs.

I understand your reasons for visiting strip clubs. I'm sure it must be a lot of fun to go there and chill with your buddies. Plus the ability to check out several gals all at once is another advantage of strip clubs. Other guys like the uncertainty of the strip club experience and how they have to depend on "game" to get laid. Although that claim of "game" is bullshit to me when you still have to pay hundreds of dollars.

For me though, I'll pass on the strip clubs. After getting ripped off by several different strippers to the amount of thousands of dollars while I was left horny every time..I don't want to even risk that happening again. I want a sure thing and I want to minimize the costs. Also, a lot of these strippers seem to be cold, ruthless, and hate men and I don't want to deal with that. Even the ones who smile at you and pretend to be nice are just thinking about how much money they can squeeze out of you. I don't blame the strippers. They have to make a living after all and stripping is usually an opportunity for them to make a lot of cash and then quit early. Still it means that you as the client have to constantly be on alert at a strip club. I don't find that relaxing or fun. To each their own though. One more thing, I'm not fond of mixing alcohol with BCD activities and that's something you're forced to do at a strip club since they force you to buy a drink.

Finally, you must be getting some great deals at some great strip clubs that you pay 200 dollars or less for everything: entry fee, multiple drinks for you and the gals, introductory lap dances, and the various BCD activities etc. I know some long time regulars at local strip clubs in Dallas and even they end up spending 300-400 dollars at least on one outing when you factor in everything. Even they admitted to me that if you're just focused on BCD activities, it's cheaper to visit an AMP or an independent provider.

In your case, since you enjoy socializing with your friends, drinking, hanging out for 3-4 hours at the strip club etc. I'm sure the extra money is worth it because you're looking for more than getting laid.

[billw1032]

Is this what you're looking for?
https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=530229
Also, this was once useful but no longer applies, probably:
https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=11904

[oldbutstillgoing]

And that is the point of a thread about how to get the most for your money in a club. Strippers are sharks. If they smell weakness, your wallet will be a bloody, shredded mess when they finish with you. Bushaholic was the best ever. After watching him work on a gal, I would swear she was ready to pay him to fuck her. Like anything, knowing the game and how best to play it will get you the best experience and lower your costs more than you might believe possible. There are some guys who can honestly say they get far better service and deals from escorts than most guys because they know how to play the game. But most will never share those secrets. I have been going to clubs for 46 years. I have learned far more in the last 10, than in the prior 36 years.

Remember with strippers, just like escorts, they want to do as little as possible for as much as possible. We guys want as much as possible for as little as possible. The smart dancers and the smart guys know how to meet in the middle.

Trust me, there are times I go home wondering why the hell I spent all that money? I think about I could have gone to a really good provider twice for what I just threw away. Its a game. Sometimes they win but I loose far less now after learning some things over the years. You have to be willing to gamble some money to get the kind of experience you want, knowing sometimes you will loss.

And what I want and get may be far different than someone else. You are the guy with the money, get what you want. Heck, what I want today may be different than what I want next week. And my budget may change widely based on that. I know guys who only want to see how much they can get and for how cheap. Go for it. Not what I like, but its their money. Spend it how they want to.

I think I will just start some threads on strip club topics. If enough people like them, hopefully we can get a superthread as a sticky in the forum and combine them there.

[oldbutstillgoing]

[QUOTE=billw1032;1061547233]Is this what you're looking for?
https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=530229


Thank you sir. That is what I was referring to. Great info there. No need to reinvent the wheel

[VeryClean]

Originally Posted by oldbutstillgoing

And that is the point of a thread about how to get the most for your money in a club. Strippers are sharks. If they smell weakness, your wallet will be a bloody, shredded mess when they finish with you. Bushaholic was the best ever. After watching him work on a gal, I would swear she was ready to pay him to fuck her. Like anything, knowing the game and how best to play it will get you the best experience and lower your costs more than you might believe possible. There are some guys who can honestly say they get far better service and deals from escorts than most guys because they know how to play the game. But most will never share those secrets. I have been going to clubs for 46 years. I have learned far more in the last 10, than in the prior 36 years.

Remember with strippers, just like escorts, they want to do as little as possible for as much as possible. We guys want as much as possible for as little as possible. The smart dancers and the smart guys know how to meet in the middle.

Trust me, there are times I go home wondering why the hell I spent all that money? I think about I could have gone to a really good provider twice for what I just threw away. Its a game. Sometimes they win but I loose far less now after learning some things over the years. You have to be willing to gamble some money to get the kind of experience you want, knowing sometimes you will loss.

And what I want and get may be far different than someone else. You are the guy with the money, get what you want. Heck, what I want today may be different than what I want next week. And my budget may change widely based on that. I know guys who only want to see how much they can get and for how cheap. Go for it. Not what I like, but its their money. Spend it how they want to.

I think I will just start some threads on strip club topics. If enough people like them, hopefully we can get a superthread as a sticky in the forum and combine them there.

Great advice sir. I can't help but agree with all your points. I would also like to correct the statement I made earlier where I dismissed the game required for strip clubs. After reading your post, I do believe that an immense amount of game is required to have a successful time at a strip club. Especially since we both agree that strippers are sharks. However, unless you enjoy the strip club environment, which it's clear to me that you do, I don't see much point in mastering this game.

[PetrusMaximus]

You don't speak for me, guys.

I have my own experience and pretty much is the best experience I could ever get.

It's not me, it's the girls who make my night awesome.

Try getting that from Amps and Girls like here? Maybe you can and maybe you can't.

It is all about them.

[oldbutstillgoing]

Originally Posted by VeryClean

Great advice sir. I can't help but agree with all your points. I would also like to correct the statement I made earlier where I dismissed the game required for strip clubs. After reading your post, I do believe that an immense amount of game is required to have a successful time at a strip club. Especially since we both agree that strippers are sharks. However, unless you enjoy the strip club environment, which it's clear to me that you do, I don't see much point in mastering this game.

Its definitely not for everyone. And many guys get very different things from the clubs. And if you don't take the time and effort to learn the game, it will cost you a lot of money and frustration. Even though I feel I'm pretty good at it, it still bites me in the ass from time to time. But that's part of the fun. If a game is easy it's not enjoyable

[VeryClean]

Originally Posted by oldbutstillgoing

Its definitely not for everyone. And many guys get very different things from the clubs. And if you don't take the time and effort to learn the game, it will cost you a lot of money and frustration. Even though I feel I'm pretty good at it, it still bites me in the ass from time to time. But that's part of the fun. If a game is easy it's not enjoyable

Yes, very true.

[pyro83us]

I'm just now learning the strip club game so I'm by no means an expert. It definitely isn't for everyone. If you are looking for maximum ROI then I think the AMPs are for you. You'll get more for your money at an AMP then you will from 98% of the other providers on this site. Everyone is looking for something different though. If you just want to rent a vagina then AMP is the right place for you.

I personally love the AMPs. I love some providers and occasionally I'm in the mood for a strip club.

The main benefits of a strip club in my opinion is that you have a wide selection of girls that you can see in advance of spending any money (other than possible cover charge). You can also drink and shoot the shit just like any regular bar.

I personally like to plant myself down with a drink and let the girls come to me. If they ask for a dance or money then I just say maybe later. You can weed out most of the hardcore sharks this way. If a girl continues to hang around for a while after you rebuff her first attempt to extract money then you either have a keeper or someone who is playing the long con. 99% of the time it's a keeper.

Unfortunately this method will also remove most of the best looking girls. Frankly though, if you want to fuck the best looking girl at a strip club then it's going to cost you a ton of money. No way around that.

I like strip clubs because to me it's basically a bar where I can have a cute girl sit on my lap and chat for a while. If you want guaranteed penetration for a set price then you should be at an AMP. If I have 4 hours to waste then I'm going to a strip club. If I have one hour to waste then I'm going to an AMP.

In summary, my advice is to enter the club with the money you are willing to spend and not a penny more. Be willing to accept the fact that you might not get to cum if the price is not right. Never agree to a dance or other advances until you are sure this is the girl you like. Don't be afraid to tell a girl to fuck off. Pace yourself. If you are not having fun then you should go somewhere else.

In my experience an blowjob at a strip club costs $200. If you are paying more then that then I would take a moment to evaluate if this is really what you want to do with your money. Just my 2 cents. I'm not an expert.

The vast majority of the times I have gotten good extra services at a strip club was with a girl that decided to site with me and chat for over 20 minutes with no compensation.