Hobbyists' Rant

[charlestudor2005]

Incognito Isis has targeted certain conduct which, she says, hobbyists engage in that basically piss her off. She has started several threADS to complain of, among other things:

• A hobbyist trying to get her to stay longer
• Thank you emails from hobbyists
• Freebie fishing by hobbyists

Now, instead of starting different threADS, I'll collapse all my complaints into this one thread and open it up for other hobbyists' complaints. So, here ya go:

• A lady did a "one and done" deal to me
• Several ladies have shorted me on time, one for 30 minutes, one for 40 minutes
• One brought another lady to the session: her Aunt Flow, and she left early
• Several have shown up late (as much as 40 minutes) and left right on time, thereby shorting the sessions
• 2 have NCNSd me
• one called 20 minutes before the session to say she was running 4 hours late. WTF? I cancelled.
• Several had terrible TCB habits.
• I had to call one 3-4 times in order to get an OK after we met.

After all this kind of conduct on the part of the ladies, it sucks to see all the complaints against hobbyists. The complaints Isis makes are only costly if she takes the hobbyist up on it. The complaints I've listed above are costly in either $$$ or time in each respect. It's a much more tangible loss than that to which Isis refers.

So, Isis, for all your self-righteous ranting about hobbyists, what do you say about this kind of conduct on the part of escorts?

Also, other hobbyists, feel free to chime in.

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

• A hobbyist trying to get her to stay longer
• Thank you emails from hobbyists
• Freebie fishing by hobbyists

Now, instead of starting different threADS, I'll collapse all my complaints into this one thread and open it up for other hobbyists' complaints. So, here ya go:

• A lady did a "one and done" deal to me
• Several ladies have shorted me on time, one for 30 minutes, one for 40 minutes
• One brought another lady to the session: her Aunt Flow, and she left early
• Several have shown up late (as much as 40 minutes) and left right on time, thereby shorting the sessions
• 2 have NCNSd me
• one called 20 minutes before the session to say she was running 4 hours late. WTF? I cancelled.
• Several had terrible TCB habits.
• I had to call one 3-4 times in order to get an OK after we met.

Maybe you should pick quality women and remember you always get what you pay for. I've never done any of these. The Aunt flow one is hilarious!! I'm sure Isis isn't talking about EVERY hobbyists and I'm sure you're not talking about every escort. Tbh, I can't relate to a lot of her concerns. I've never had anyone steal from me for one (one of the threads she started). We should all do better jobs at choosing who we spend time with.

[scorpioseventy7]

meh...

[petiteassman]

even be taken seriously when she won't even say who she is

Originally Posted by Naomi4u

Maybe you should pick quality women and remember you always get what you pay for. I've never done any of these. The Aunt flow one is hilarious!! I'm sure Isis isn't talking about EVERY hobbyists and I'm sure you're not talking about every escort. Tbh, I can't relate to a lot of her concerns. I've never had anyone steal from me for one (one of the threads she started). We should all do better jobs at choosing who we spend time with.

[lisa.lisa0302]

Wow.

Maybe you should peek in other forums, plenty of rants done by hobbyist all the time.

I agree with Naomi .....pick better woman. Too many reputable providers hanging out around with flawless records.

Not to down play your troubles, because I am not. Having said that, your troubles were not that bad compared to other hobbyist. Some simply stay in a bad runt when it comes to providers. Some seem to never get it right and continue to have bad experience.

[catnipdipper]

If/when I arrive at the incall location and it turns out to be a double wide, I just leave and don't call.

I openly admit my faults.

[charlestudor2005]

Originally Posted by Naomi4u

Maybe you should pick quality women and remember you always get what you pay for.

Originally Posted by lisa.lisa0302

I agree with Naomi .....pick better woman. Too many reputable providers hanging out around with flawless records.

That's not true...that you get what you pay for. Laurentius always maintained (and I think you agreed) that price had nothing to do with quality service; that he had gotten quality service from both ends of the price spectrum.

Second, most of those (not all) examples were picked because of their reviews. So, yes, the research had been done.

And BTW, I don't think there is anything so false as a "flawless record."

[Eccie Addict]

I've had pretty good times with my choices and ladies I've met. Any one of us have had times where we were upset over something. My big complaint was, in the grand scheme of things, pretty small.

I will say this though quality providers make mistakes too. Most guys don't write about it so therefore it sheds more light on other providers.

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by petiteassman

even be taken seriously when she won't even say who she is

Hey love,

I have no clue who she is and I really don't care. I understand why someone would want to keep their work persona away from the board. Hell look at Alex Lieberman, She doesn't blog using her work persona and I enjoy reading her blog. I'm Isis isn't who some may think she is. Isis was here when that girl was around (Check out her posts/ join date). Yes she has some legit concerns but I don't share them. I have found that I don't relate a lot to a lot of ladies escorts when it comes to bad clients because I've never had one (Ok well there was that one time a guy tried to tell me his weight and I didn't listen but that's another thread. He was still sweet though). Every guy I've spent time with has been more than respectful and generous. I love men and I've learned at least one thing from those gents

Charles, I have already made you an offer. If we are ever in the same state I'll get one of my friends to show you a hot time. You need to lighten up and make better decisions man.

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

Second, most of those (not all) examples were picked because of their reviews. So, yes, the research had been done.

False baby false.

You have told me that you don't read reviews. You have also told me that you don't have premium access. So if there's info that you needed to know... how would you know if you don't have such access? Laurentius is a very smart man (where the hell is he??). I agree with him. I know of a provider that charges $400 an hour and doesn't kiss.. lol! However, that same provider doesn't provide out of a double wise, she doesn't smell like BO, She is always dressed to kill, hair is always done, makeup is always on point, she is also very intelligent so you are getting your money's worth. Can you say ALL that about the ladies you have met? I'm guessing no. You have said yourself that the majority of the ladies you have spend time with didn't know how to construct a simple sentence. I follow your posts Charlie. It's up to you to check out reviews to see what she will and won't do BCD. If you don't do your research you will not know. Now If I'm paying someone $300-$400 an hour and she's providing out of a double wide or a 3 star hotel, something's wrong.

Charles, I am not saying anyone is perfect. I am saying you've never had a good experience love. Try something
new. You can't keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.

[lisa.lisa0302]

I didn't say anything about price...

Now if you want to sit and debate, you will be alone, my opinion is my opinion. Just that an opinion...Period. If you think there is no such thing as a flawless record.... well congrats you earn a sweet can of mama peaches.... and maybe a cracker jack prize out the vending machines located outside the grocery store.

I see your writings and rants, and debates, I really do not care who this Isis chick is. Why should you, why should you care what her rants are, do they affect you personally, or your hobby experience. The moment, a lady turns you down for an appt, because "Isis" said so, send me a pm.

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

That's not true...that you get what you pay for. Laurentius always maintained (and I think you agreed) that price had nothing to do with quality service; that he had gotten quality service from both ends of the price spectrum.

Second, most of those (not all) examples were picked because of their reviews. So, yes, the research had been done.

And BTW, I don't think there is anything so false as a "flawless record."

[Omahan]

Originally Posted by lisa.lisa0302

I agree with Naomi .....pick better woman. Too many reputable providers hanging out around with flawless records.

Even girls with flawless records can go bad. We've all seen it many times. YMMV.

[phatdaty]

CT,

Just my two cents:

Hobby long enough and your list of complaints happens to most guys. Every one of us that have done this longer than a few months has a handful of such stories, if not a couple suitcases.

There are many differences between men and women. One of them is how we handle disappointment.

Men learn, move on, do research, and when appropriate warn our comrades privately, just in case it is a pattern rather than an anomaly. For the most part we don't bitch about it, and come to think of it, the better providers, or at least the ones I connect with the most, don't either. In other words, they approach sex like a man, which means they get us and know how to please us.

Hang in there, you are bound to meet a few of those better women sometime.

BTW: I agree with you, price does not always equal quality. I have had some wonderful $150.00 sessions, and some shitty $500.00 sessions. I have had some awesome $600.00 dates, and some psycho aunt flow dates at $200.00. The longer I do it and the more research I employ, the happier I usually am. On the topic of getting what you paid for, I know you aren't a big fan of spending the money (or time and energy writing reviews) to get premium access, but I have to tell you, it will enhance your research and reduce your disappointment. It gets you more information and helps you make better decisions. It is the best money you will spend in the hobby.

In the meantime, rather than get into a tizzy about Isis, just chalk it up to easy research. If her posting bothers you this much, chances are you won't enjoy fucking her, so every time she pisses you off, think of it as money in the bank that you aren't going to spend.

[Eccie Addict]

If I read what the OP said in above post he was saying that those weren't his experiences but he got those from reviwes that were posted....

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by Eccie Addict

If I read what the OP said in above post he was saying that those weren't his experiences but he got those from reviwes that were posted....

Now, instead of starting different threADS, I'll collapse all my complaints into this one thread and open it up for other hobbyists' complaints. So, here ya go:

Those were HIS complaints .

[charlestudor2005]

Originally Posted by Naomi4u

False baby false.

You have told me that you don't read reviews. You have also told me that you don't have premium access. So if there's info that you needed to know... how would you know if you don't have such access? Laurentius is a very smart man (where the hell is he??). I agree with him. I know of a provider that charges $400 an hour and doesn't kiss.. lol! However, that same provider doesn't provide out of a double wise, she doesn't smell like BO, She is always dressed to kill, hair is always done, makeup is always on point, she is also very intelligent so you are getting your money's worth. Can you say ALL that about the ladies you have met? I'm guessing no. You have said yourself that the majority of the ladies you have spend time with didn't know how to construct a simple sentence. I follow your posts Charlie. It's up to you to check out reviews to see what she will and won't do BCD. If you don't do your research you will not know. Now If I'm paying someone $300-$400 an hour and she's providing out of a double wide or a 3 star hotel, something's wrong.

Charles, I am not saying anyone is perfect. I am saying you've never had a good experience love. Try something
new. You can't keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.

Time is on a continuum, and what I do now is not static to what I did in the past nor necessarily what I might do in the future. I don't read reviews now. I used to read reviews, and even do them (just check under my avatar for the list). But after trial and error, I decided that reading reviews can be extremely misleading. So, I quit for the most part. And after losing PA (no big loss IMHO), I rarely read them unless there was a reason to do so. And w/o PA, I don't have access to certain parts of the Showcases.

If you followed me all that closely, you would have remembered a point in time in which my signature block said I lost PA and was no longer doing reviews. You seem to infer that I complain about hygiene. That has never been one of my main complaints. There was only one lady that had that kind of problem. Most of the ladies I've seen have been impeccable when it comes to hygiene. Now, the grammar issue is true. And a lack of education, that's true also.

And, since you follow me so well, N, you know I don't do incalls, so the double-wide comment was a throwaway, false and misleading on your part, and probably deliberately so. The rants I included were about actual $$$ and time lost, not the specious complaints Isis made.