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Old 01-31-2020, 12:52 PM   #1
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Question SWAT team arriving in 15

Where do you hide?
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Old 01-31-2020, 02:32 PM   #2
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Where do you hide?
You don't hide. You walk away, do not run. Get out the back Jack, Make a new plan Stan. At a normal pace, you can walk a mile in 15 minutes.
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Old 01-31-2020, 06:53 PM   #3
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You don't hide. You walk away, do not run. Get out the back Jack, Make a new plan Stan. At a normal pace, you can walk a mile in 15 minutes.
you don't need to be coy, Roy.. I'm listening to you.
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Old 02-01-2020, 06:39 AM   #4
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Hop on the bus, Gus


Thanks, useful. I think that initially upon receiving bad news I'd be jittery/upset, about to lose my mind, up in here. So you'd have to calm down.

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Old 02-01-2020, 05:04 PM   #5
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From my house due West is my driveway, 120 yards is the road. If SWAT is coming, I could wander off in any other direction 50 yards, sit down and read a book. They will never find me.

It is all pretty dense forest around here.

I can hunt, forage and fish all without leaving my property.
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Old 02-01-2020, 06:18 PM   #6
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In general, walk away.
What were you doing at that time, how do you know they're coming and what they're coming for??? Depending on the situation.
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Old 02-02-2020, 07:05 AM   #7
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From my house due West is my driveway, 120 yards is the road. If SWAT is coming, I could wander off in any other direction 50 yards, sit down and read a book. They will never find me.

It is all pretty dense forest around here.

I can hunt, forage and fish all without leaving my property.
If SWAT is coming we'll all be fucked. Some more than others.

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What were you doing at that time, how do you know they're coming and what they're coming for??? Depending on the situation.
It depends. Suppose I was walking, trying to reflect not on prison rape stories.
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Old 02-02-2020, 04:23 PM   #8
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Running away, looking the other way when a police offices drives by, or other unusual behavior will draw police attention. Just act normal and move away from their focus of attention. I don't drink and drive, but I surely drive the other direction if I see a police DUI check point. A big car crash on the highway; get off the highway and drive the back streets. It will probably take less time than spending time talking to them. Avoid problems, it makes life nicer.
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If swat is coming, chances are they were called by police who are already on site, you walk out to bounce and possibly get tased before Swat ever arrives.
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A year ago, we had an incident in our town.

A neighbor went slightly crazy and was shooting at 'spiders' in his home.

Someone called 911, and the state troopers showed up with six vehicles and blocked off the road.

The neighbor WAS NOT shooting at the troopers, so they had no reason to engage him. But they also did not want to approach his house.

The troopers then went door-to-door to talk to all the neighbors, to try to get 'probable cause' from us, so they could approach the house.

The 'stand-off' lasted about 2 hours, the local SWAT never arrived, and finally, one trooper approached the house, talked to the man and calmed down. The troopers just left.
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Running away, looking the other way when a police offices drives by, or other unusual behavior will draw police attention. Just act normal and move away from their focus of attention. I don't drink and drive, but I surely drive the other direction if I see a police DUI check point. A big car crash on the highway; get off the highway and drive the back streets. It will probably take less time than spending time talking to them. Avoid problems, it makes life nicer.
A cop walked up to me and asked for ID. When I asked for clarification he claimed that I had averted my gaze.

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If swat is coming, chances are they were called by police who are already on site, you walk out to bounce and possibly get tased before Swat ever arrives.
Possibly.

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A year ago, we had an incident in our town.

A neighbor went slightly crazy and was shooting at 'spiders' in his home.

Someone called 911, and the state troopers showed up with six vehicles and blocked off the road.

The neighbor WAS NOT shooting at the troopers, so they had no reason to engage him. But they also did not want to approach his house.

The troopers then went door-to-door to talk to all the neighbors, to try to get 'probable cause' from us, so they could approach the house.

The 'stand-off' lasted about 2 hours, the local SWAT never arrived, and finally, one trooper approached the house, talked to the man and calmed down. The troopers just left.
It could have played out differently. Commendable behavior on part of those willing to de-escalate.
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Old 02-06-2020, 11:48 PM   #12
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If swat is coming, chances are they were called by police who are already on site, you walk out to bounce and possibly get tased before Swat ever arrives.
I’d love to swat your avatar’s ass. Who is that young thang? Gorgeous thigh gap!
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From my house due West is my driveway, 120 yards is the road. If SWAT is coming, I could wander off in any other direction 50 yards, sit down and read a book. They will never find me.

It is all pretty dense forest around here.

I can hunt, forage and fish all without leaving my property.
Real easy to find a warm meat bag in the forest with a basic thermal scope.
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Old 02-09-2020, 11:08 AM   #14
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Real easy to find a warm meat bag in the forest with a basic thermal scope.
I have used those myself. What a pain in the arse.


We can 'what if' a scenario all day long and not accomplish anything.

Our homestead is NOT 100% self-sufficient, but as my wife keeps telling me, we are better situated than 99.95% of the rest of the population.
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"A cop walked up to me and asked for ID. When I asked for clarification he claimed that I had averted my gaze. "

No thank you sir. I do not answer questions. I request to see your supervisor.
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