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Old 07-08-2022, 05:30 PM   #1
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Default Assassination by firearm in an unarmed country, Japan.

Japan.

Basically, only the rich can own a gun, and not a laser firing AR15 either.

Perhaps a hunting rifle or a shotgun, which can't be taken out of the home except for those needs.

So, a person assassinated their ex prime minister with a homemade crude pistol.

They were so sure their people were unarmed, that even his security didn't have guns.

So, all you libs want to explain how removing one type of firearm from the 300 plus million existing in this county is really going to matter?

Here is your gun free paradise, and it doesn't work.
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Old 07-08-2022, 08:12 PM   #2
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Wow. What a ridiculous argument. Japan has approx 10 gun deaths a year. The US has over 20,000 deaths per year. You want facts? There they are.
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Old 07-09-2022, 11:22 AM   #3
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Even with no guns, you will have crime, that's the point.
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Old 07-09-2022, 05:53 PM   #4
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Even with no guns, you will have crime, that's the point.

By the Left's logic, there was no crime before the invention of firearms.
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By the Left's logic, there was no crime before the invention of firearms.
The other thing I have realized is, after seeing the video of the shooting up close, the Japanese have mentally atrophied when it comes to the danger of firearms.

The victim, is shot at with the guns first barrel, and he wasn't hit, but there was a huge explosion behind him, and he didn't even react let alone drop to the ground, and then after about 3 seconds, the perp fired again, hitting him and killing him.

Further, no one in his security was watching behind him, the guy got REALLY close, dozens of feet, not yards away.

Also, NONE of them had a gun, nobody, one guy tried to deploy a ballistic shield, but the shot wasn't stopped by it.

A total blunder in terms of what a security team should provide, first, watching behind him, and then NOT throwing him to the ground, and taking the bullet instead of the ex prime minister.

Shit, I do a better job of watching out for myself in a bad neighborhood, wear a Kevlar, grow eyes in the back of your head, and of course, be armed.

I'll bet they weren't allowed to even consider buying a vest, let alone a gun.

Fish in a barrel.
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Old 07-10-2022, 09:47 AM   #6
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Yahoo News had an article about the gun. It was totally home made. Even the ammunition. It was an electrically fired gun. Like a musket- load the powder, then the shot & wadding.
You'd think in a technology country like Japan, he'd 3D Print or come up with some other fancy method. Nope!! Just some electrical tape, wires, gun powder, batteries, tubes & stuff.
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Yahoo News had an article about the gun. It was totally home made. Even the ammunition. It was an electrically fired gun. Like a musket- load the powder, then the shot & wadding.
You'd think in a technology country like Japan, he'd 3D Print or come up with some other fancy method. Nope!! Just some electrical tape, wires, gun powder, batteries, tubes & stuff.
I'm starting to play with 3D printers, and I've been studying the production of both firearms and suppressors using them either to entirely print plastic 22 caliber suppressors, and firearm parts/frames.

They are capable of producing some neat stuff, parts mainly, and there are lots of files out there to be found, but I don't see the plastic types to be of much value for actual home made firearms.

What he built was about as advanced as it needed to be to be functional, and deadly.

Unless you start banning the sale of metal pipe and electronic components there is no way to stop anyone from doing what he did, but, you can't fail to account for the complete and utter uselessness of his security that allowed a crude weapon and its owner to get close enough to use it.
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Yea, the whole 3D Printed gun thing was an attention getter. But when you look into the types of plastics/resins available, none are really suited for firearms. Maybe 1 shot, but then the heat melts the plastic. Youtube had some videos on guys making 'em... if they're still up. They still had to use metal parts for it though, so any notion of getting it through security checkpoints is invalid.


Nor do I think some wacko is going to buy a $100,000 sintering machine to produce a gun.


Just more scare tactics being used really.


His security detail was way too comfortable letting people get close.
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Yea, the whole 3D Printed gun thing was an attention getter. But when you look into the types of plastics/resins available, none are really suited for firearms. Maybe 1 shot, but then the heat melts the plastic. Youtube had some videos on guys making 'em... if they're still up. They still had to use metal parts for it though, so any notion of getting it through security checkpoints is invalid.


Nor do I think some wacko is going to buy a $100,000 sintering machine to produce a gun.


Just more scare tactics being used really.


His security detail was way too comfortable letting people get close.
I know someone who has printed multiple pistol frames, and used parts kits from destroyed pistols to rebuild them, so far, they are holding up well.

Bear in mind the parts started out polymer to begin with, and you are just replacing that.

Its also legal to do, if you aren't prohibited from owning a gun.
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