Welcome to ECCIE, become a part of the fastest growing adult community. Take a minute & sign up!

Welcome to ECCIE - Sign up today!

Become a part of one of the fastest growing adult communities online. We have something for you, whether you’re a male member seeking out new friends or a new lady on the scene looking to take advantage of our many opportunities to network, make new friends, or connect with people. Join today & take part in lively discussions, take advantage of all the great features that attract hundreds of new daily members!

Go Premium

Go Back   ECCIE Worldwide > General Interest > The Sandbox - National
test
The Sandbox - National The Sandbox is a collection of off-topic discussions. Humorous threads, Sports talk, and a wide variety of other topics can be found here.

Most Favorited Images
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
Most Liked Images
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
Top Reviewers
cockalatte 646
MoneyManMatt 490
Still Looking 399
samcruz 399
Jon Bon 396
Harley Diablo 377
honest_abe 362
DFW_Ladies_Man 313
Chung Tran 288
lupegarland 287
nicemusic 285
You&Me 281
Starscream66 279
George Spelvin 265
sharkman29 255
Top Posters
DallasRain70793
biomed163231
Yssup Rider60927
gman4453294
LexusLover51038
offshoredrilling48646
WTF48267
pyramider46370
bambino42577
CryptKicker37215
The_Waco_Kid37006
Mokoa36496
Chung Tran36100
Still Looking35944
Mojojo33117

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-20-2012, 10:32 AM   #1
Whirlaway
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: Here.
Posts: 13,781
Encounters: 28
Default OSAMA BIN LADEN KILLING...THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT OBAMA.

Must Read:

EXCLUSIVE: Obama 'cancelled missions to kill bin Laden THREE TIMES after getting cold feet - until Hillary Clinton stepped in', claims explosive new book

  • Leading from Behind: The Reluctant President and the Advisors Who Decide for Him will be published on Tuesday
  • Claims Obama cancelled three operations to kill bin Laden
  • The killing of bin Laden is at the centre of Obama’s re-election campaign
  • The 9/11 mastermind was eventually killed by US Navy SEALs in May 2011
By Toby Harnden


Barack Obama cancelled three operations to kill Osama bin Laden before finally going ahead with the mission at the insistence of Hillary Clinton, according to a new book.

The explosive allegation is contained in an expose by journalist Rich Miniter, who argues that the White House’s carefully-crafted narrative of Obama as a decisive leader who dispatched the al-Qaeda leader despite the doubts of advisers is a myth.






Explosive claims: Barack Obama allegedly cancelled three operations to kill Osama bin Laden before finally going ahead with the mission at the insistence of Hillary Clinton





Miniter, a former ‘Wall Street Journal’, ‘Washington Times’ and ‘Sunday Times’ of London journalist, cites an unnamed source within Joint Special Operations Command as revealing that three ‘kill’ missions were cancelled by Obama in January, February and March 2011.
Bin Laden was eventually killed by US Navy SEALs inside his compound in Abbotobad, Pakistan in May 2011.



The killing of bin Laden is at the centre of Obama’s re-election campaign and is likely to be highlighted yet again by his aides on the eleventh anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks next month. Obama has already come under fire from former SEALs for trumpeting his role in the raid.

Until now, no one has claimed that he was reluctant even to launch it.
Miniter portrays Clinton as the main force behind killing bin Laden and contends that the prevaricating Obama has been in thrall to a number of dominant women – Clinton, top adviser Valerie Jarrett and his wife Michelle.

It was Jarrett, a long-time Chicago ally, he reports, who urged Obama to cancel the first three operations to kill bin Laden.

Miniter writes that Clinton’s alliances with Leon Panetta, then CIA director and now Pentagon chief, and David Petraeus, then head of US and Nato forces in Afghanistan and now at the helm at the CIA, were critical in bringing bin Laden to justice.

At the start of his presidency, Miniter writes, Obama was ‘studiously undecided’ about whether to kill the mastermind of 9/11.

‘He refused to weigh in or commit himself on even small matters related to a possible strike on bin Laden.’

He continues: ‘Obama was often disengaged as the bin Laden operation took shape; he left critical decisions to the then-CIA Director Leon Panetta, then-Secretary of Defence Robert Gates and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

‘Obama feared taking responsibility for a risky raid that might go tragically wrong.’

Initially, Miniter writes, Obama deferred to Jarrett over whether to go after bin Laden.

‘Jarrett opposed the idea. She worried about a backlash against the president if the operation failed, or even if it succeeded. Clinton privately fumed about Jarrett’s relentless presence and her injection of political considerations at every turn.

‘Throughout 2009 Obama demanded more and more certainty about U.S. intelligence concerning bin Laden. Jarrett repeatedly reminded Obama and other executive-branch officials that the president had campaigned on the “intelligence failures” of the Bush years.
‘There was no need, she said, to hand our political rivals a set of intelligence failures of our own.

‘As CIA covert teams successfully parried concerns about intelligence by extraordinary efforts that proved bin Laden was indeed in the Abottobad compound, a new set of delaying tactics emerged, embedded in the debate over what should actually be done.’

Despite their rivalry during the battle for the 2008 Democratic nomination, Clinton had gradually won over Obama and established her influence during weekly meetings in the Oval Office.

‘Clinton used her weekly meeting to begin lobbying for a decisive blow against bin Laden.




‘She knew her husband had paid a political price for failing to stop bin Laden before the September 11 attacks. She knew Obama’s presidency could be mortally wounded if he had bin Laden in his gun sights and didn’t fire.’

Eventually, Miniter writes, Obama was convinced that bin Laden should be pursued but still had reservations about pulling the metaphorical trigger.

‘He knew Clinton was right. So he agreed to keep making minor decisions, but remained uneasy about the big one at the end—deciding to kill bin Laden, and to risk losing American and Pakistani lives in the process.’

Even the day before bin Laden’s demise, Miniter writes, Obama was seized by a ‘fourth moment of indecision’.

The White House later said that poor weather conditions prompted this final delay but Miniter writes that he obtained the US Air Force Combat Meteorological Centre’s weather report for that day and established that it showed ‘ideal conditions’ for the SEAL raid.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-new-book.html
Whirlaway is offline   Quote
Old 08-20-2012, 12:03 PM   #2
UB9IB6
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jul 13, 2012
Location: North of the riff raff
Posts: 833
Default

Bull shit. Another right wing swift boating attempt.

Unnamed sources mean shit... Wait!!
They mean the writer made it up...
Probably to augment fame or fortune.

Typical right wing conspiracy Mumboi jumbo.
UB9IB6 is offline   Quote
Old 08-20-2012, 12:11 PM   #3
txcwby6
Valued Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 6, 2010
Location: Dallas
Posts: 2,880
Encounters: 38
Default

Blah..blah...blah....
Obama was the President when bin Laden was killed. Sorry it couldn't have been a Republican but there you go. If he delayed the mission once it'd still be an "explosive" revelation to anyone looking to trash this Administration...but there you go again.

I also hear his birth certificate is a forgery...he's behind fluoride in our drinking water.....he worships the devil....sacrifices collie puppies every Sunday night AND his daughters were conceived by Deion Sanders!!!

Have anything to say about that Missouri Republican that approves of "legitimate rape" of livestock (or was that women?).
txcwby6 is offline   Quote
Old 08-20-2012, 12:12 PM   #4
CuteOldGuy
Valued Poster
 
CuteOldGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 20, 2010
Location: Wichita
Posts: 28,730
Encounters: 20
Default

Unnamed sources brought Nixon down.
CuteOldGuy is offline   Quote
Old 08-20-2012, 12:14 PM   #5
CJ7
Valued Poster
 
CJ7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 9, 2010
Location: Here
Posts: 14,191
Default

Mail Online has the real truth?

uh huh...


lol
CJ7 is offline   Quote
Old 08-20-2012, 12:17 PM   #6
Gotyour6
Valued Poster
 
Gotyour6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 24, 2010
Location: .
Posts: 9,772
Encounters: 24
Default

Honestly, why the fuck should we care about this.
Is he dead, turn the page then and move on.
Gotyour6 is offline   Quote
Old 08-20-2012, 12:20 PM   #7
CuteOldGuy
Valued Poster
 
CuteOldGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 20, 2010
Location: Wichita
Posts: 28,730
Encounters: 20
Default

+1 Nobody really cares about this. Anyone who thinks Obama is a hero for killing bin Laden was going to vote for him regardless. This is a non-issue.
CuteOldGuy is offline   Quote
Old 08-20-2012, 12:22 PM   #8
CJ7
Valued Poster
 
CJ7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 9, 2010
Location: Here
Posts: 14,191
Default

whirlie is digging in the garbage can as usual, pay no attention to any of his BS
CJ7 is offline   Quote
Old 08-20-2012, 12:26 PM   #9
UB9IB6
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jul 13, 2012
Location: North of the riff raff
Posts: 833
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by txcwby6 View Post
Blah..blah...blah....
Obama was the President when bin Laden was killed. Sorry it couldn't have been a Republican but there you go. If he delayed the mission once it'd still be an "explosive" revelation to anyone looking to trash this Administration...but there you go again.

I also hear his birth certificate is a forgery...he's behind fluoride in our drinking water.....he worships the devil....sacrifices collie puppies every Sunday night AND his daughters were conceived by Deion Sanders!!!

Have anything to say about that Missouri Republican that approves of "legitimate rape" of livestock (or was that women?).
I didn't know about the fluoride connection.
This changes everything.
Damn....
UB9IB6 is offline   Quote
Old 08-20-2012, 12:27 PM   #10
timpage
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Apr 7, 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,249
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by UB9IB6 View Post
I didn't know about the fluoride connection.
This changes everything.
Damn....
You are clearly not up to speed on these critically important issues....consult with Whirlygig, he'll get you pointed in the right direction.
timpage is offline   Quote
Old 08-20-2012, 12:29 PM   #11
Guest102513-1
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jan 24, 2010
Posts: 3,039
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy View Post
+1 Nobody really cares about this. Anyone who thinks Obama is a hero for killing bin Laden was going to vote for him regardless. This is a non-issue.
I actually agree with COG, on this one.

But as far as the original OP posts....do you believe everything that is writing, lol

Guest102513-1 is offline   Quote
Old 08-20-2012, 12:31 PM   #12
Whirlaway
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: Here.
Posts: 13,781
Encounters: 28
Default

I don't have a dog in this fight; I am not interested in protecting Obama's reputation in the OBL killing.....but apparently there are alot of Obamazombies that care...

I find it plausible that Hillary was the tough nail in the process....and I find it plausible that Obama was more concerned about political fallout should a raid go badly........
Whirlaway is offline   Quote
Old 08-20-2012, 12:33 PM   #13
Whirlaway
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: Here.
Posts: 13,781
Encounters: 28
Default

Amazing how this post brought out all the wormwood defending Obama....where is your critical thinking cap boys ?

Richard Miniter is well researched and has been following the OBL story dating back before 2001......nobody has discredited Miniter's research in his 2 previous best selling books on similar subject matters.
Whirlaway is offline   Quote
Old 08-20-2012, 12:33 PM   #14
nevergaveitathought
Valued Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 18, 2010
Location: texas (close enough for now)
Posts: 9,249
Default COG is right but....

according to democrats here-to-fore, it has always been the seriousness of the charge

this is explosive
nevergaveitathought is offline   Quote
Old 08-20-2012, 12:43 PM   #15
Whirlaway
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: Here.
Posts: 13,781
Encounters: 28
Default

It is important for history to flush out these kinds of presidential details...if Obama was a reluctant particpant who repeatedly cancelled OBL missions (at the behest of Jarred), that is very telling. And it is more telling if he was pushed to execute the raid by Hillary !

Histroy shouldn't ignore the facts surrounding this important Presidential action (INACTION)....
Whirlaway is offline   Quote
Reply



AMPReviews.net
Find Ladies
Hot Women

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright © 2009 - 2016, ECCIE Worldwide, All Rights Reserved