Mandate Health Insurance?

[CJ7]

whos idea was that?


oh yeah ...



The concept of the individual health insurance mandate is considered to have originated in 1989 at the conservative Heritage Foundation. In 1993, Republicans twice introduced health care bills that contained an individual health insurance mandate. Advocates for those bills included prominent Republicans who today oppose the mandate including Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Charles Grassley (R-IA), Robert Bennett (R-UT), and Christopher Bond (R-MO). In 2007, Democrats and Republicans introduced a bi-partisan bill containing the mandate.

[CJ7]

common peeps, lets hear it for the unconstitutional, Nazi, socialist bastards who want to shove their agenda up your unwilling taxpaying asses ...

[CJ7]

deafening silence from the right

[waverunner234]

Of course

[Fast Gunn]

The only way to have a functional health care system is to require everyone to buy into it.

The folks who insist they do not need to will eventually end up costing the system more when sudden emergencies force them into the hospitals.

Different countries around the world have experimented with different strategies for affordable health insurance for their citizens, but the only method that works is the one where everyone is required to have insurance.

Look at car insurance. If it was not mandatory, irresponsible drivers would wreck the lives of the responsible drivers.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by CJ7

whos idea was that?


oh yeah ...



The concept of the individual health insurance mandate is considered to have originated in 1989 at the conservative Heritage Foundation. In 1993, Republicans twice introduced health care bills that contained an individual health insurance mandate. Advocates for those bills included prominent Republicans who today oppose the mandate including Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Charles Grassley (R-IA), Robert Bennett (R-UT), and Christopher Bond (R-MO). In 2007, Democrats and Republicans introduced a bi-partisan bill containing the mandate.

They were for it before they were aganist it!

[JD Barleycorn]

and in 2008 candidate Barack Obama was against the universal mandate before he was against it.
"Both of us want to provide health care to all Americans. There's a slight difference, and her plan is a good one. But, she mandates that everybody buy health care. She'd have the government force every individual to buy insurance and I don't have such a mandate because I don't think the problem is that people don't want health insurance, it's that they can't afford it. So, I focus more on lowering costs. This is a modest difference. But, it's one that she's tried to elevate, arguing that because I don't force people to buy health care that I'm not insuring everybody. Well, if things were that easy, I could mandate everybody to buy a house, and that would solve the problem of homelessness. It doesn't."
Feb. 28, 2008 Ellen Degeneres Show

Food for thought don't you think. Maybe if everyone does some more research rather than just throw stuff on the wall. Remember that 1989 was a different time with a lower deficit, lower umemployment, and no war. Facts are stubborn things but you can find them if you try.

The website that CJ was probably directed to by his handler (now we can all read it) http://healthcarereform.procon.org/v...ourceID=004182

[WTF]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

. Remember that 1989 was a different time with a lower deficit, lower umemployment, and no war. Facts are stubborn things but you can find them if you try.

Oh back in the day we could afford health care for poor people but not now but if I suggest that providing low income women with birth control as a cost saving measure I am guilty of genocide?

So we can not afford health care for poor people today but we do not want then to get free birth control so they can have more children that we can not afford.

Where the fuc is you logic or a grip on reality.

What person in their right mind thinks like that? We can not afford to help you by providing cheap birth control methods but once the kids (You did not want) grow up to be crime statistic , we have no problem spending 25k a year on them in a prison setting. What kind of Conservative are you again? Is that wtf the Conservative movement has come to. Cutting off your nose to spite your face?

No damn wonder a weak canadite such as Obama will trounce you in the general in Nov

[CJ7]

there have been several different mandate ideas over the course of the years JD, the fact remains it was born so to speak, in the halls of Heritage. Romney supposedly used the idea for his state, Rebublicans didnt offer too much protest then much like they didnt in 89.

my handler thinks youre a hypocritical sob.

[CJ7]

I was wondering who be the first to offer some bullshit deflection tactic trying to remove the responsibility from the conservatives (used very loosely), and shovel it over to the other side of the aisle.

JLSD won.

kudos Teach.

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by WTF

Oh back in the day we could afford health care for poor people but not now but if I suggest that providing low income women with birth control as a cost saving measure I am guilty of genocide?

So we can not afford health care for poor people today but we do not want then to get free birth control so they can have more children that we can not afford.

Where the fuc is you logic or a grip on reality.

What person in their right mind thinks like that? We can not afford to help you by providing cheap birth control methods but once the kids (You did not want) grow up to be crime statistic , we have no problem spending 25k a year on them in a prison setting. What kind of Conservative are you again? Is that wtf the Conservative movement has come to. Cutting off your nose to spite your face?

No damn wonder a weak canadite such as Obama will trounce you in the general in Nov

You are correct. http://www.chacha.com/question/how-m...xas-for-a-year

I thought it would cost more. Death row add's more. i want to say I am a Republican that is all for condoms and birth control pills.

I don't care for sucking babies thru blenders and flushing them down the drain. Most woman regret that for a lifetime.

Obama phfuuuuuttttt......

[jhende3]

Funny how republicans like to push personally responsibility on different issues. Government shouldn't bail out auto industry they shouldn't bail out home owners who are over their head on a mortgage. Don't tax my moneyand give to it the poor. Socialism!!! Welfare!!!! Until the government says no more free ride for you freeloaders. We can't afford to pay your medical bills. You now must buy your own Health Insurance!! What pay my own way or you crazy!! Why should I pay my own way on Health insurance, they can't do that! Save the welfare state. Do you know how much a doctor visit is?? And you want me to pay for it are you crazy. I just go to the emergency room and sit there till I'm seen it cost about 1000.00 a visit but hey I'm not paying for it, you are. I got other stuff to buy with my money. Hell on a good day I could hit 4 to 5 hospitals for the same thing and get me scripts for pain pills and sell them on the street and make me some good money.

So when you come into the Emergency Room complaining of chest pains and your wondering why it's taking so long to see a doctor. Look around, we got the place on lock, hell you should be first, your the only one paying.

So thank you Mister Republican for fighting Obamacare for a second there I thought I might have to take responsibility for my myself.

[CJ7]

the right doesnt know what the hell they want

damn near everything they bitch about someone else doing, they fight to the death to to make sure we keep doing

nucking futs with a Masters degree in hypocrisy

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by jhende3

Funny how republicans like to push personally responsibility on different issues. Government shouldn't bail out auto industry they shouldn't bail out home owners who are over their head on a mortgage. Don't tax my moneyand give to it the poor. Socialism!!! Welfare!!!! Until the government says no more free ride for you freeloaders. We can't afford to pay your medical bills. You now must buy your own Health Insurance!! What pay my own way or you crazy!! Why should I pay my own way on Health insurance, they can't do that! Save the welfare state. Do you know how much a doctor visit is?? And you want me to pay for it are you crazy. I just go to the emergency room and sit there till I'm seen it cost about 1000.00 a visit but hey I'm not paying for it, you are. I got other stuff to buy with my money. Hell on a good day I could hit 4 to 5 hospitals for the same thing and get me scripts for pain pills and sell them on the street and make me some good money.

So when you come into the Emergency Room complaining of chest pains and your wondering why it's taking so long to see a doctor. Look around, we got the place on lock, hell you should be first, your the only one paying.

So thank you Mister Republican for fighting Obamacare for a second there I thought I might have to take responsibility for my myself.

So Obama care is going to stop drug addicts.

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by CJ7

the right doesnt know what the hell they want

damn near everything they bitch about someone else doing, they fight to the death to to make sure we keep doing

nucking futs with a Masters degree in hypocrisy

If you get your ass split open from butt sex. I hope my counrty does not pay to get it sewed up.