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Old 12-24-2022, 12:09 AM   #1
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Default Emails, texts show Pelosi office directly involved in failed Jan. 6 security

Yeah, the soviet style show trial run by Pelosi's puppets didn't even mention this, did they. For that matter, neither did the ill informed leftists here

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Days after Pelosi’s Jan. 6 select committee recommended insurrection charges against former president Donald Trump over the Capitol riot, Republicans have hit back with a counter-investigation apportioning blame for the internal security breakdown on Jan. 6 to Pelosi and a dysfunctional Capitol Police intelligence division.

“Leadership and law enforcement failures within the U.S. Capitol left the complex vulnerable on January 6, 2021,” says the report, which is based on a trove of texts and email messages, and testimony from Capitol Police leaders and rank-and-file officers.

House Sergeant at Arms Paul Irving, who answered to Pelosi as one of three voting members of the Capitol Police Board, “succumbed to political pressures from the Office of Speaker Pelosi and House Democrat leadership,” was “compromised by politics and did not adequately prepare for violence at the Capitol.”

Pelosi and her staff “coordinated closely” with Irving on security plans for the Joint Session of Congress on Jan. 6, but Republicans were deliberately left out of “important discussions related to security.”


And, in an apparent attempt to hide from Republicans the fact that they were being excluded from discussions, Irving asked a senior Democratic staffer to “act surprised” when he sent “key information about plans for the Joint Session on Jan. 6, 2021, to him and his Republican counterpart.”

The staffer replied sardonically: “I’m startled!”

The report also claims that “staff within the House Sergeant at Arms office emailed Paul Irving that January 6th was Pelosi’s fault,” although it provides no evidence for the assertion.

When Irving was forced to resign after the riot, an email from an unnamed staffer in his office criticized Pelosi’s “knee-jerk reaction to yesterday’s unprecedented event” and described his resignation as “spectacularly unjust, unfair, and unwarranted. This is not your fault. Or [Capitol Police chief Steven] Sund’s fault.”

The Republicans responsible for the withering report — Jim Banks (R-IN), Jim Jordan (R-OH), Rodney Davis (R-IL), Kelly Armstrong (R-ND) and Troy Nehls (R-TX) — are the five congressmen originally nominated to sit on the Jan. 6 committee, until Pelosi vetoed Banks and Jordan. House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy pulled the rest of his nominees in protest. Pelosi then installed two Never Trump Republican outcasts, Liz Cheney, and Adam Kinzinger.

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The report insinuates that the Speaker left the Capitol Police without backup on Jan. 6 because “widespread concern from Democratic leadership over ‘optics’ in the aftermath of the Summer 2020 ‘Black Lives Matter’ protests prevented early deployment of the National Guard.

Chief Sund begged repeatedly for troops but has testified that Irving rebuffed him over concern about “optics.” During the violence on Jan. 6, Sund repeated his request, but help was delayed until after the riot ended, because Irving needed to run it up the chain of command, a.k.a. Pelosi.

“The Speaker’s office was heavily involved in planning and decision-making before and during the events of Jan. 6, 2021, and micromanaged the Sergeant at Arms.”

From early December 2020, Pelosi aides attended regular meetings with Irving and Sund to discuss the security plan. So hands-on was Pelosi’s chief of staff Terri McCullough that, at one point, she was editing details of parking, event timing and “language regarding official business visitors” for the Joint Session.

To illustrate the intense involvement of Pelosi’s office, on Jan. 6 alone, the report records 36 communications between Irving and Pelosi staffers, including 11 with McCullough, and 20 with Jamie Fleet, a Pelosi aide who doubled as a Democratic staff director.

Pelosi’s repeated assertions that she has “no power over the Capitol Police” are rejected.

“This is false,” says the report. “Documents provided by [current] House Sergeant at Arms show how then-House Sergeant at Arms Paul Irving carried out his duties in clear deference to the Speaker, her staff, and other Democratic staff . . .

“House Rules dictate . . . that the Sergeant at Arms is to report directly to the Speaker of the House.”


Indeed, the report says that Pelosi regularly exercised her authority over security matters, “when she directed the use of magnetometers outside the House chamber in the name of safety . . . Similarly, she required masks in the House chamber [and] exerted influence on security protocols at the Capitol related to the perimeter fence . . . She also oversaw the fencing that was erected for a purported rally on September 18, 2021, that never materialized.”

https://nypost.com/2022/12/21/house-...rity-failures/
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Old 12-24-2022, 08:20 AM   #2
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LOL More whataboutism. The truth is that some of your traitorous political allies stormed the capitol building because they believed a bunch of the lies that your leader told them.
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Old 12-24-2022, 10:00 AM   #3
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LOL More whataboutism. The truth is that some of your traitorous political allies stormed the capitol building because they believed a bunch of the lies that your leader told them.
Nope, more facts that leftists don't want to here.

Why did that bitch Pelosi leave the Capital unprotected?
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The more pertinent question is why did some of your traitorous political allies storm the capitol building?

One of the traitors was killed by the Capitol Police as she attempted to storm the building, so to say that it was left unprotected is another of your many lies.
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Old 12-24-2022, 01:24 PM   #5
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The more pertinent question is why did some of your traitorous political allies storm the capitol building?

One of the traitors was killed by the Capitol Police as she attempted to storm the building, so to say that it was left unprotected is another of your many lies.
Why do you lie yet again?

I don't have any traitorous political allies who in your misguided words, "stormed the capitol building".

So you do admit a Capitol policeman murdered an innocent civilian. Cool, that must make you proud

And did you even bother to read the article to see how that bitch Pelosi and your crazy leftists refused to protect the capitol adequately? Given your lies, I assume you didn't. Read the report
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Old 12-24-2022, 03:16 PM   #6
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The article is complete and utter bullshit. Radical right-wing lies put out by the radical right-wing Washington post. Fake fucking news to try deflect how guilty the treadonist tangerine turd is and the foolish imbeciles he reved-up to storm the Capitol for his fake ass election lies.
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Old 12-24-2022, 04:34 PM   #7
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Why do you lie yet again?

I don't have any traitorous political allies who in your misguided words, "stormed the capitol building".

So you do admit a Capitol policeman murdered an innocent civilian. Cool, that must make you proud

And did you even bother to read the article to see how that bitch Pelosi and your crazy leftists refused to protect the capitol adequately? Given your lies, I assume you didn't. Read the report
Murdered an innocent civilian? What alternate universe did that happen in? One can assume that if they attempt to storm the United States capitol building and climb into a window that one of their conspirators just smashed out, very bad things can happen, including being killed. The Lieutenant was cleared of all wrong doing. She'd still be alive if she hadn't believed the lies of a con man and then stormed the capitol. Nothing misguided about saying that they stormed the capitol building. It's what they did.

No reason to read your alternate universe propaganda.
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Old 12-24-2022, 05:49 PM   #8
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The article is complete and utter bullshit. Radical right-wing lies put out by the radical right-wing Washington post. Fake fucking news to try deflect how guilty the treadonist tangerine turd is and the foolish imbeciles he reved-up to storm the Capitol for his fake ass election lies.

what's bullshit about it? this is testimony and documented texts. you may not like the source, the New York Post, but report is a matter of record.


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Murdered an innocent civilian? What alternate universe did that happen in? One can assume that if they attempt to storm the United States capitol building and climb into a window that one of their conspirators just smashed out, very bad things can happen, including being killed. The Lieutenant was cleared of all wrong doing. She'd still be alive if she hadn't believed the lies of a con man and then stormed the capitol. Nothing misguided about saying that they stormed the capitol building. It's what they did.

No reason to read your alternate universe propaganda.

he used excessive force against a suspect. the officer fired as a show of force. it was unneeded. there was no direct threat to the officer at the time he fired.



did you notice that at the beginning of the made for TV televised parts of the committee's hearings such as they were, the now long debunked falsehood that several officers died during the riot? yeah they repeated that again. not one officer died during the riot.



let's hear from the officer who shot Ashli Babbitt himself.



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Old 12-24-2022, 08:46 PM   #9
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LOL Maybe in the "MAGA zone," but in the real world, the Lieutenant was cleared of all wrong doing.
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Always glad to see the politically obsessed are making such waves in their documentation that the amount of societal change has been tenfold.

Wait.. no, nothing has happened other than spamming a forum dedicated to pluggin'.

Berry is obviously in the christmas spirit.
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LOL Maybe in the "MAGA zone," but in the real world, the Lieutenant was cleared of all wrong doing.

the smugness of your apparent satisfaction about Ashli Babbitt's death tells me a great deal about the true threat to democracy.
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The Lieutenant was cleared of all wrong doing.
Cleared by who? An "internal investigation" What a sham. This cop was under no direct threat but still used excessive force against Ashley Babbitt. If this happened in lets say the streets of Minneapolis and the races of the cop and Babbitt were reversed, we would have a national outcry, BLM rioting, looting and burning down buildings, etc. And no one would believe or accept the results of any "internal investigation"

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No reason to read your alternate universe propaganda.
First it is real world facts. And second, no one is forcing you to read it or respond to it
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The article is complete and utter bullshit. Radical right-wing lies put out by the radical right-wing Washington post. Fake fucking news to try deflect how guilty the treadonist tangerine turd is and the foolish imbeciles he reved-up to storm the Capitol for his fake ass election lies.


Please elaborate how exactly the sworn testimony and documented texts that were part of the report the NY Post article reports on are "complete and utter bullshit"

We know you can't because they are 100% factual and that is what you are really upset about
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the smugness of your apparent satisfaction about Ashli Babbitt's death tells me a great deal about the true threat to democracy.
The threat to our democracy are those who continue to believe the lies of the MAGA ZONE con man. Smugness? I'm just stating the facts. They stormed the capitol building and tried to interfere with our 250 year old democratic process. If you break into the capitol building and try to interfere with our electoral process, you have to understand that something very bad can happen to you. That's the real definition of Karma. It's not some mythical force. It's when you die as a direct result of your actions. This is not some moron vigilanti kid looking to murder people. This is a Capitol police officer defending the capitol. These people weren't tourists.


The MAGA zone is some weird alternate universe.
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Cleared by who? An "internal investigation" What a sham. This cop was under no direct threat but still used excessive force against Ashley Babbitt. If this happened in lets say the streets of Minneapolis and the races of the cop and Babbitt were reversed, we would have a national outcry, BLM rioting, looting and burning down buildings, etc. And no one would believe or accept the results of any "internal investigation"
The capitol building was under attack. Pipe bombs had been found near both the DNC and RNC headquarters. People were chanting "hang Mike Pence." They erected a gallows across from the building and hung a noose from it. Very bad things have happened when people have stormed past Capitol police, so "Congress tightened restrictions in the 1970s after a radical left-wing militant group set off a bomb in the Capitol and again in the late ’90s when an armed assailant stormed past a U.S. Capitol security checkpoint and killed two Capitol Police officers." Having tight security protocol is the right thing to do at the Capitol building. The officer did his job. Only the ultra extreme MAGA zone folks claim that he did something wrong. The ones who still believe the lies of a con man.


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And did you even bother to read the article to see how that bitch Pelosi and your crazy leftists refused to protect the capitol adequately? Given your lies, I assume you didn't. Read the report
LOL You tried to command me to but I don't follow the MAGA marching orders. The real world fact is that Trump's radical Cult of Ignorance stormed the Capitol because they believed a bunch of lies that he told them.
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