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Old 09-22-2011, 05:36 PM   #1
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Okay, so there are some things I guess I will never understand. Why is it that you guys try to tell the teenage girls working with the elves to be Indy, and then they do and you treat.treat them like shit? Worse than pimps. You don't bother giving them straight facts then blame us for them failing, getting beat up, or ending up in jail? Here's some things you may not know. All elves have never escorted before. They don't know the difference between the good guys and the bad guys. You cannot rent a room at most decent hotels until you're 21. You cannot rent a car until you're 25. If you consider all of the expenses of being an escort, you make as much in the end being Indy as working with the elves, and that's only if you have a good reputation and are willing to give up the safety and security of working with the elves. I have never heard a girl say any different. You assholes aren't hurting us, a girl can leave anytime they want, we will obviously always get more. Besides, y'all all stop seeing these poor girls to see a new Elf, and you screw them over because they believed you when you said going Indy will make them more money.

I don't get why its so hard to believe a hooker stole 3800 from me, and since she's retiring I guess it means she can finally pay me back. Why'd we get in trouble for that comment mods? Shouldn't people be aware of when somebody wrongs a 19 year old girl? You guys are the reason girls get raped and abused.. not only can we not call the cops but we have to worry about hurting our abusers feelings in the process.

Also, I realize I have a bad review on me right now... I love how the mods allow fake reviews. Can anybody say I charged them 300 for a half hour, and how many people have seen me on causeway? And yet I still get dogged on. But even though his information is largely fake, I did actually see that Jackass. He's just mad because I wouldn't let him force me into doing things were painful and me uncomfortable. As he said, I wasn't submissive enough. Sorry honey, but im PSE, not slave. I already have a Master.

Which is why I don't wanna go Indy. Im a slave whore and I like it that way. And im going to do something new... every week im going to pick one guy to have a free session, race doesn't matter. Email me through my website for more details.

ELLA
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Old 09-22-2011, 05:45 PM   #2
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Old 09-22-2011, 07:53 PM   #3
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There are bad apples everywhere and on both sides of the equation. Unfortunately it only takes one bad apple to ruin things for everyone. Hopefully the bad apples get what they deserve in the end and let those of us that play fair and respectfully return to our fun games. Sorry you had a bad experience, hopefully your future is better. I know for a fact that you are sweet and a great provider. There are many of us that appreciate the time spent with you. Keep your head up and stay positive.
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Old 09-22-2011, 08:11 PM   #4
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Thank you sweetheart, guys like you make it fun for us and make putting up with the jerks easier! The Elves love our twistedtiger time!
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Old 09-22-2011, 08:51 PM   #5
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I haven't seen an elf before, but I have at least 3 of y'all in my sights. Some guys are real assholes and mess it up for the good guys. Sorry for the way you've been treated and I hope
To be able to show you a better time in the near future

Remember though, everyone has their good and bad days
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:38 AM   #6
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I think all agencies have to struggle with the hobbyists trying to "recruit". Some guys will just try to squeeze blood from a turnip.

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Okay, so there are some things I guess I will never understand. Why is it that you guys try to tell the teenage girls working with the elves to be Indy, and then they do and you treat.treat them like shit? Worse than pimps. You don't bother giving them straight facts then blame us for them failing, getting beat up, or ending up in jail? Here's some things you may not know. All elves have never escorted before. They don't know the difference between the good guys and the bad guys. You cannot rent a room at most decent hotels until you're 21. You cannot rent a car until you're 25. If you consider all of the expenses of being an escort, you make as much in the end being Indy as working with the elves, and that's only if you have a good reputation and are willing to give up the safety and security of working with the elves. I have never heard a girl say any different. You assholes aren't hurting us, a girl can leave anytime they want, we will obviously always get more. Besides, y'all all stop seeing these poor girls to see a new Elf, and you screw them over because they believed you when you said going Indy will make them more money.

I don't get why its so hard to believe a hooker stole 3800 from me, and since she's retiring I guess it means she can finally pay me back. Why'd we get in trouble for that comment mods? Shouldn't people be aware of when somebody wrongs a 19 year old girl? You guys are the reason girls get raped and abused.. not only can we not call the cops but we have to worry about hurting our abusers feelings in the process.

Also, I realize I have a bad review on me right now... I love how the mods allow fake reviews. Can anybody say I charged them 300 for a half hour, and how many people have seen me on causeway? And yet I still get dogged on. But even though his information is largely fake, I did actually see that Jackass. He's just mad because I wouldn't let him force me into doing things were painful and me uncomfortable. As he said, I wasn't submissive enough. Sorry honey, but im PSE, not slave. I already have a Master.

Which is why I don't wanna go Indy. Im a slave whore and I like it that way. And im going to do something new... every week im going to pick one guy to have a free session, race doesn't matter. Email me through my website for more details.

ELLA
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Old 09-23-2011, 09:09 AM   #7
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Sometimes the difference between a hobbyiest in his 50s and a provider that is 19, is life experience. Typically the people in their 50s understand that I cannot control what other people do - that simple. If a guy decides to write a fake review - the provider has no control over that. And me as a mod have no idea if it is fake or not. A provider getting a bad review tells me it is fake well first I have to consider does she have motive and yes she does. Does not mean she is being untruthful but also no proof that session did not take place. In fact you admit you saw the guy, but who else knows what took place in that session besides you and him. Let the information stay out there and most of us guys know how to decide which info is good and which is not.

One bad review does not make a reputation, you will be fine. Blaming others when a dilemma arises usually does not work for me. I try to learn for the situation and move forward, really all I can do.

Also complaining that you ladies have expenses will not fly very well at least with me. Most of you ladies make more than most of us hobbyiests, that is a simple fact. At the age of 19 a lady can easily make over 6 figures annually. Talk to some non-providers at that age and ask their income. If a lawyer were to tell his clients - look my expenses are very high and my life is difficult at times due to my job, the clients would walk away very fast.

I think the elves will do just fine, but me I try operate with a level of humility and compassion for my clients and not self-serving complaining. I can get together with colleagues and do that cuz they understand the perils of my job, but no the clientele, just me.

Ella your rep is still very stellar and I have not seen an elf mostly because of Santa's online rantings, but I hear wonderful things about the service and I do think he runs a great service which provides pleasure for the clients and a safe work environment for the ladies. Wish you ladies all the best.
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Old 09-23-2011, 04:25 PM   #8
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Free sessions, how will that help?
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:34 PM   #10
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I think it's fun! The football game is cool too. Idk I think it adds a little pizzazz!! Maybe now every time the saints get a touch down the clients will think "hm, I wonder which elves are in town". Kinda like if you get a coupon for groceries etc. you may not have originally had that in your basket but it's tempting now!!
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:44 PM   #11
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All I know is anyone who has seen an elf and especially ella knows is that the reviewer had an ax to grind. I am pleased to say that my elf experiences were great. I did not write reviews for ella or kodi cuz I do not need the credits and elves have so many outstanding reviews already. When I read the previous (singular) bad review, I felt it did not warrant a comment. Considering how it has obviously bothered a very nice young woman, I wish I had commented sooner. I do agree that everyone realizes that ella, the elves (new and past) will do fine despite this event. It is nice though to lend support when needed. I know I will always look forward to when elves come to nola. Btw, when will that be....
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Old 09-23-2011, 08:15 PM   #12
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It'll help me out, but what part of this you didn't understand...

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Im a slave whore and I like it that way.

ELLA

Well, I'm not one to turn down some free quality kitty. I always wanted a session with Ella but could never book. I had a few sessions with elves and all were good until the strict AA policy.

I would have personally preferred a surprise freebie after being an established client (which I thought I was), but it feels too cheezy on my part to now flood this girls box (hehe) with requests for a freebie.

I don't know it's pretty much the same reason I don't buy lottery tickets.

I feel that if I deserve a million, I stand a better chance at making that million.

Anyway, I'm still sending her an email
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Old 09-24-2011, 05:50 PM   #13
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The first half of the first post!! They constantly ask the girls for numbers and WHY WORK FOR ANNIE??? Shit the end of the raffle was when Mandy was the girl and the (so called hobbiest) WHO WON A FREE DATE WHICH I PAY FOR asked for EVERYTHING under the sun THE whole time told her to call him he knew lots of guys to see her... Why? She thought he was the most disrespectful man she had ever met and could not believe that he was talking about me as he was using my money..ugh! We have a rule that the girls are to turn in the men who randomly leave numbers lol drop cards haha or other such nonsense and they are barred from our service. period ... Im not here to amuse myself..its a business!! They want you to be so professional yet they are totally NOT!!! Really?? Do they think they are helping or just trying to get quality girls they know are not le for cheap?? hmmmm
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Right on Annie.. these guys try to tell the girls how much better it will be for them leaving the group, but when the girl gets busted or beat because they were having to build a client list of strangers just to make ends meet to cover expensive rooms and such, or they end up in some el cheapo hotel. Well which one of you pricks told that girl they found in the dumpster at motel 6 to be an indy? where were you when she was being murdered? If she was with a firm, the moment she was late someone would have been checking on her, she may still be alive. So tell me, what amout of money that a girl might make is worth endangering their lives? You white knight saviors of the affiliated are just as guilty of the harm that comes to these girls who havent been in the business long enough to be out there on their own as the person beating them, stealing from them or killing them. A girl with a solid firm is 9 times less likely to be hurt or killed in this industry. Keep that in mind next time you want to try and con some girl into going indy so you can get the goods cheaper because she will be hard up.

Good call Annie, good to see we arent the only people out here trying to put girls safety above clients egos.
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Not saying anything about being an elf.. I am actually grateful for being involved with an agency prior to going Indy. I learnt a lot from y'all. With that being said I think to be indy you have to be smart. It's not impossible and there are ways to stay safe. As with an agency screening is extremely important. There is another thread about "the buddy system" this also is great when you're Indy.

My clients are amazing. They are such great guys that truly support me. But I am very careful with my screening. I don't doubt that some bad guys slip through but this is when the buddy system helps. Have someone who has your back. As for the girl who lost her life at the Motel 6 I don't feel right using her death as anything more than a ladies please be careful. That shouldn't be brought up in a negative light more than it already is. She was a person just like everyone else and made a mistake.
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