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05-05-2022, 09:51 AM
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Free speach (but only for us!)
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05-05-2022, 11:26 AM
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Besides kaepernick, all of those cartoons have to do with public school content. Having a child in the public school system, it’s important to me what is being presented to my child. I’m uncomfortable with a teacher giving their social opinions, political opinions, and or sexual/gender identity theories to my child. I’m sure a lot of liberals would feel the same way if schools and teachers insisted on teaching christian morals in public school.
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05-05-2022, 11:28 AM
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However I do get the point of the post. I hate to admit it but it’s a somewhat valid perspective haha.
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05-05-2022, 11:58 AM
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You mean these folks afraid of free speech?
This says it all:
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05-05-2022, 12:20 PM
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Berry, I think the irony of the cartoon I linked might had gone past you, so I'll explain it so it is easy to understand.
Republicans say they support free speech, but censor things such as books, films, and make discussions in school about the (sometimes dark) history of our country illegal in schools.
None the less, the first amendment doesn't protect discussion of anything in a private situation (such as in schools), but none the less the Republicans are censoring things they don't like and controlling the masses by controlling their information.
So basically, they are doing something that is morally wrong (censorship), that isn't even a protected right, all while saying that they are in favor of the protected rights.
Or in other words, a distraction of the masses to push their own agenda.
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05-05-2022, 12:49 PM
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I like how you can't spell speech right even though the correct spelling is used in the image
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05-05-2022, 01:50 PM
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I like how you can't spell speech right even though the correct spelling is used in the image ![Laughing1](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/modern/laughing1.gif)
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Typos happen, my friend. No need to make it personal
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05-05-2022, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by onawbtngr546
Berry, I think the irony of the cartoon I linked might had gone past you, so I'll explain it so it is easy to understand.
Republicans say they support free speech, but censor things such as books, films, and make discussions in school about the (sometimes dark) history of our country illegal in schools.
None the less, the first amendment doesn't protect discussion of anything in a private situation (such as in schools), but none the less the Republicans are censoring things they don't like and controlling the masses by controlling their information.
So basically, they are doing something that is morally wrong (censorship), that isn't even a protected right, all while saying that they are in favor of the protected rights.
Or in other words, a distraction of the masses to push their own agenda.
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No, nothing from the cartoon you posted went past me. It was a lazy and inaccurate attempt at discussion about free speech (speech that you can't even spell)
Please show me exactly where Republicans are censoring free speech. Give me concrete examples with links. Because your silly cartoon doesn't do so. As Loretta noted - all but 1 item in your cartoon has to do with public school content. I think anyone who can think for themselves would agree that a teacher should not teach nor give their social opinions, political opinions, and or sexual/gender identity theories to any child. That is NOT their job. And I don't care if it is a liberal or conservative perspective they are giving - both are out of bounds. The way you know who a good teacher is if their students do not know their sexual identity, their politics, their social opinions.
So determining what should and should not be taught in a K-12 classroom is not censorship.
And you need to stop watching CNN and MSNBC - there is no group effort to quote you "make discussions in school about the (sometimes dark) history of our country illegal in schools." None. Schools still teach about the civil war, slavery (which by the way it was the Republicans who freed the slaves, not the liberals), etc. You are conflating this with the bullshit libtard Critical Race Theory discussions that they have pushed into schools telling all white children they are born racists and their parents are racists. Please tell me how telling white first graders they are born racists is appropriate?
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05-05-2022, 02:22 PM
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And please enlighten us on how Senile Biden's Ministry of Truth is not an attack on free speech
Or how the NY Times, Washington Post and most other mainstream aka liberal media are outraged about Elon Musk buying Twitter and daring to pledge to restore free speech doesn't confirm how libtards are the ones who push and support censorship.
Come on, I will wait
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05-05-2022, 02:25 PM
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And you must have missed this thread - written by a prominent Democrat
Jonathan Turley - Senile Biden has established himself as arguably the most anti-free-speech president since John Adams
https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2844603
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05-05-2022, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by onawbtngr546
Berry, I think the irony of the cartoon I linked might had gone past you, so I'll explain it so it is easy to understand.
Republicans say they support free speech, but censor things such as books, films, and make discussions in school about the (sometimes dark) history of our country illegal in schools.
None the less, the first amendment doesn't protect discussion of anything in a private situation (such as in schools), but none the less the Republicans are censoring things they don't like and controlling the masses by controlling their information.
So basically, they are doing something that is morally wrong (censorship), that isn't even a protected right, all while saying that they are in favor of the protected rights.
Or in other words, a distraction of the masses to push their own agenda.
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Ah last time I looked, public schools are public not private.
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05-06-2022, 07:30 AM
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100% the school argument is totally bogus. I’ve been on this earth almost 4 decades and not once have I ever felt the urge to speak to a child about sexual orientation or sexual identity. It’s baffling that some of these teachers are confused on how to do their jobs without talking about these obvious inappropriate, irrelevant topics. For any teacher out there confused, if the subject comes up in your classroom, a.) you’re off topic and should control the discussion more appropriately. B.) tell the students this isn’t appropriate content for school and change the topic…. Very easy.
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05-06-2022, 07:33 AM
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Where I think that onawbtngr546 has a valid point is when conservatives (including myself) want to punish or boycott Disney for speaking their political views. They spoke out against Florida’s parental rights bill which angered me and caused me to cancel Disney plus. Made me say many times “corporations should keep their politics to themselves” or they shouldn’t have an opinion. Now if this was a conservative company and they were receiving backlash for supporting Desanris, I’d be angry. So he has a good point that it’s hypocritical.
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