Encounter: Tip Cuckholding with Anna

[elCid]

Date: 6/12/21
Name: Relax Massage - Anna
Phone: 281-716-2866 [adding info-DM]
Email Address: -
URL / Website: -
City: Houston
State: Texas
Address: Jones Rd. / Mills
Activities: FBSM FJ HJ PM
Hair Length and Color: Medium / Black
Age: 48+
Smoking Status: Non-Smoker
Ethnic Background: Asian
Physical Description: Reasonably attractive, 5'3', 120 lbs, smooth skin.
Recommendation: No

[bigstickdave6969]

You sound angry bro! Let it go and move on!

[mynameismudd]

You are a cheapskate - any provider that performs a prostate massage deserves another $10 on top of the $40 minimum. Sounds like you are a cheapass but justify it because all the guys who tip normally based on service are "cuckholds." You got it twisted - its the alpha males who go out into the world to make more money and can afford to tip.

[elCid]

Originally Posted by bigstickdave6969

You sound angry bro! Let it go and move on!

Angry? What in the world are you talking about? I have merely given a review on Anna (no go for me) and tipping principles - so I have no idea what I should let go of or move on from.

[elCid]

Originally Posted by mynameismudd

You are a cheapskate - any provider that performs a prostate massage deserves another $10 on top of the $40 minimum. Sounds like you are a cheapass but justify it because all the guys who tip normally based on service are "cuckholds." You got it twisted - its the alpha males who go out into the world to make more money and can afford to tip.

OK Mudd, by your own definition then we were both wrong - I undertipped by 10 and she over asked by 10. But, (I) I didn’t ask for the P massage, she just did it, and (II) what is normal is what works in a negotiated market. I have very good success in this market at the rates I am willing to pay with quite a few providers.

And perhaps you misunderstood my point on cuckholds. I wouldn’t consider anyone that tips a “normal” or near normal rate as a cuckhold. Rather, my point was specifically in reference to guys that manifestly overtip (i.e. the 180 for L1 example) or those that pay anything a provider asks, even when she is asking for an amount that is clearly well above “normal” rates.

As for your cheap ass and alpha male remarks, you have no idea how much money I make, but if being a big tipper among the ladies allows you to be a legend in you own mind, knock yourself out.

My general point remains that we should treat hobbying budgets with the same general principles that apply to other transactions. Even if we have money this does not mean we should be taken advantage of or pay excessively for the goods and services we receive just because someone asks.

[ea6b]

I like the other lady though she is slightly bigger her massage and other activities to me is just fine

[xfrankx]

Originally Posted by elCid

OK Mudd, by your own definition then we were both wrong - I undertipped by 10 and she over asked by 10. But, (I) I didn’t ask for the P massage, she just did it, and (II) what is normal is what works in a negotiated market. I have very good success in this market at the rates I am willing to pay with quite a few providers.

And perhaps you misunderstood my point on cuckholds. I wouldn’t consider anyone that tips a “normal” or near normal rate as a cuckhold. Rather, my point was specifically in reference to guys that manifestly overtip (i.e. the 180 for L1 example) or those that pay anything a provider asks, even when she is asking for an amount that is clearly well above “normal” rates.

As for your cheap ass and alpha male remarks, you have no idea how much money I make, but if being a big tipper among the ladies allows you to be a legend in you own mind, knock yourself out.

My general point remains that we should treat hobbying budgets with the same general principles that apply to other transactions. Even if we have money this does not mean we should be taken advantage of or pay excessively for the goods and services we receive just because someone asks.

I definitely disagree with you your comments on older women. Can't tell you how many times I've fantasized about getting a HJ from QE or a 4-hand FBSM from her and Maggie Thatcher.

I DO get your point about "over-tipping". This goes for AMP and dancers as well. We often here about women quoting ridiculously high numbers. Well, that's because some idiot will pay it. They have the common sense (yes I just said that) to know that you NEVER want your first offer accepted. We men think they might think we're special if we pay full price. They don't. They think we're suckers if we pay full price. I think anybody can pay/tip as much as they like, but we can critic that as well.

[big_jay]

I always look at it this way…
Never tip up front
Always negotiate
Only spend what the going rate is
And always be ready to lose the house money and walk away
This has worked very well for me in 20 years at any AMP in the US

[mynameismudd]

Agreed: never tip up front
pay fair market value and more if there are extras (prostate)
negotiate if their requests are unreasonable
I'll pay a little extra for a little extra enthusiasm and so they remember me for round two (if i intend there to be one)
$40 for a standard HJ
$50 for prostate - mutual touching - etc
$60 - $80 - topless, naked, or some fetish play

***In the US $40 is never good enough for a HJTC and prostate***

[elCid]

Thankfully there are no “regulated” AMP provider rates in the US and two private parties are free to negotiate their own terms. Also thankfully, Mudd is not our lead negotiator as this would be a total fail.

There are no US rates, much less a US prostate rate. Rather, the “standard” or negotiated rates are specific to (i) each locale, and, more importantly, (ii) whatever is acceptable between the two private parties. Also, a recurring receivable has its own value and in this market this often translates into (via an organic negotiation process) countervailing discount rates for repeat business. In my transaction with Anna, for example, after the session ended she expressed that she wanted a 60 tip for HJ +prostate. I simply didn’t enjoy the session such that it merited a 60 tip (120 total) price point. Consequently, I will decline from seeing her in the future as I now know she wants 60 + 60 for such a session.

[pkh]

Interesting. First @elCid, thanks for the review. 2nd I agree with you, $60 is TOO MUCH for an L1. 100% with you there. Whether you asked for the back door play or not, it didn’t seem like you said No so I’m in the grey area with you there. @Mudd. I’m with you on the $10 for P. Especially if she’s giving good IOP.

Overall. YES! STOP OVER PAYING YOU ASSHATS! STOP MESSING UP THE ECONOMY! Not directed to anyone personally. Just an over all statement.

In this situation I would have gave the $10 if she was cool the whole way through. I have F’d up the tip before but not often. You got to stand your ground boys. They already got the bump on us on the HF! I miss getting an $80 L1 that was GOOD.

[xfrankx]

^^^Exactly ^^^

[mynameismudd]

100 - don't overpay and don't be a cheapass! if a woman is willing to do prostate and fetish extras its worth more, especially with good IOP. market rates for everything, and not more. Also - he could have declined the prostate if he was not interested/didn't want like a normal human but he went along with it then shorted her - thats all!

[boardman]

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How does over tipping, or not, relate to anyone being a cuckold.
I think the OP doesn't understand the meaning.

[elCid]

Originally Posted by boardman

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How does over tipping, or not, relate to anyone being a cuckold.
I think the OP doesn't understand the meaning.

Yes I understand the meaning of cuckhold Boardman. Of course in this context it is merely meant as an allegory.