Immunity

[berryberry]

I suspect the ill informed leftists don't really understand the importance of Scouts taking the Presidential immunity case.

It is not that people expect Scotus give a President carte Blanche to do anything. No, it is about multiple things

1. The timing. Case won't be heard until April so a decision won't be released until likely June. Poor Jack Smith. With 3 months of pre trial discovery, etc he will have no time for the illegal law fare on Trump before the election unless he does so against long-standing DOJ policy

2. The question at the court is immunity for official acts. Scotus will likely find a President has immunity for official acts. Otherwise every President wouldn't be constantly in court.

3. So the likely outcome is Scotus will tell one of the lower courts to determine if what the democrats illegal law fare campaign is focused on are official acts as President. They will have to decide that first. If upholding the integrity of an election is an official act which it should be, Poor Jack Smith has no case. If the corrupt DC court finds it is not an official act, guess what. Trump can and will appeal

Bottom line the clock will likely run out before the election or Smith tries to start a trial in October with Senile Biden trailing miserably and the entire country sees the Democrats bullshit and support President Trump even more

Oof

[bambino]

I agree, they won’t give a POTUS carte Blanche to do anything. Just while conducting official duties of the office. Which will open the door to go after past Presidents. Like Bribes (when term is done) Obama, Bush and Clinton. Be careful what you wish for.

[Jacuzzme]

This would open Obama and staff for droning US citizens. I believe there were civil suits but never criminal.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

This would open Obama and staff for droning US citizens. I believe there were civil suits but never criminal.

Exactly.

[Salty Again]

... Not to mention that the Dems - namely Maxine Waters
and several others brought their-own slates of electors
to Trump's presidential certification. ... And VP Biden
hit the gavel and told them to forget it - Trump Won.

VP Mike Pence did something similar a few year ago
at Biden's certification... stated that Biden Won.

So IF Trump had "fake electors" - then Hillary did also.

... So THIS will be part of the Immunity challenge.
And did President Trump have the authourity to ensure
a fair and honest election?

#### Salty

[DNinja69]

Fair and honest election.

Never happened. Won't ever happen especially with the billion$ at stake in todays national contests.

Immunity by Trumps definition does not exist within our current framework

We do not need a monarchy and neither side deserves the level of authority that would become possible if SCOTUS sided with him

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by DNinja69

We do not need a monarchy and neither side deserves the level of authority that would become possible if SCOTUS sided with him

Maybe trump, and today's GOP, are just too stupid to think things through, but there's no way SCOTUS will rule in favor of a President having "total immunity".

For one, nobody has "total immunity" in a nation of laws. It's impossible. Either we are a nation of laws or we aren't.

And if the SCOTUS were to actually rule that a President is indeed the King of America, that would make Biden the King. Woopsie daisy.

Anyone expecting the SCOTUS to rule in trump's favor here is simply too stupid to know how stupid they are. That, or we are indeed now a dictatorship.

I predict 8-1 in favor of "the President is not a king" with the most corrupt piece of shit in today's SCOTUS, Clarence Thomas, being the lone dissenter.

[Jacuzzme]

You could’ve simply said you don’t know what the case is about, rather than a big wall of text that proves it.

[tommy156]

I know exactly what the case is about. The DC Circuit Court has already ruled on it. There for all to see.

Presidents do not have "total immunity" as trump is claiming he has, and he can indeed be charged with crimes related to January 6. Unless trump's bought-and-paid-for Pet SCOTUS declares him King, of course. Then we are no longer a nation of laws. No American should ever be rooting for that.

[Jacuzzme]

Really? How about killing US citizens with no due process. Is that ok for a president, or should he suffer consequences?

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Really? How about killing US citizens with no due process. Is that ok for a president, or should he suffer consequences?

Not to mention Seal team 6 or Benghazi? Was Bribes and Odummer involved in that?

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by bambino

Not to mention Seal team 6 or Benghazi? Was Bribes and Odummer involved in that?

... One thing's for certain - we're surely gonna Find Out!

And we'll also see just WHO has Immunity.

#### Salty

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

And did President Trump have the authourity to ensure
a fair and honest election?

#### Salty

That is the question Salty. But anyone with any knowledge knows that portion of the question won't be decided at Scotus . As I stated in my initial post, Scotus is limiting its decision to does a President have immunity for official acts
Anyone thinking that they are deciding if a President has total immunity for anything is ill informed

No one is asking or expecting anything more.

A lower court will have to decide whether the President has a responsibility to ensure a free and fair election occurred and thus is an official act. People who have common sense will say yes. Of course depending on what lower court it is remanded to, it will likely be dominated by leftist lunatics. So when they choose wrongly, then the appeal process starts again.

And poor Jack Smith has to sit with his thumb up his ass unable to conduct more illegal law fare against Trump before the election in order to interfere in the election

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Really? How about killing US citizens with no due process. Is that ok for a president, or should he suffer consequences?

Except that never happened.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by bambino

Not to mention Seal team 6 or Benghazi? Was Bribes and Odummer involved in that?

No. They weren't there. Unlike trump on January 6th, who orchestrated the entire thing. Keep trying to equate casualties of war with domestic terrorism, though. It's fun to explain how incorrect you are.