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Old 03-28-2017, 06:28 PM   #1
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Interesting read.

This is all fucking kabuki theater. Another example of the attempted coup d'etat orchestrated by the Turd Reich and their benefactors in Russia.

Nunes is caught in a tough spot. He can't stonewall the media and his constituents. But he can't say shit that doesn't implicate the Turd Reich. Even his denials are ridiculous. He's toast ... and he won't even get the attaboy he deserves for taking a bullet for the Scheissfuhrer.

At the end of the day, Twitler will throw Nunes under the bus and won't look back.

But this shit isn't over. BIGLY.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-d...-investigation

HOW THE WHITE HOUSE AND REPUBLICANS BLEW UP THE HOUSE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION
By Ryan Lizza 01:48 P.M.

The evidence is now clear that the White House and Devin Nunes, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, have worked together to halt what was previously billed as a sweeping investigation of Russian interference in last year’s election. “We’ve been frozen,” Jim Himes, a Democratic representative from Connecticut who is a member of the Committee, said.

The freeze started after last Monday’s hearing, where James Comey, the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, revealed that the F.B.I. has been investigating possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia since last July. Comey also said that there was no evidence to support Trump’s tweets about being wiretapped.

Today, the House panel was scheduled to hear from three top officials who had served under the Obama Administration: Sally Yates, the former Deputy Attorney General, who briefly served as acting Attorney General, before being fired by President Trump; John Brennan, the former head of the C.I.A.; and James Clapper, the former director of national intelligence. But last week Nunes cancelled today’s hearing.

“The Monday hearing last week was, I’m sure, not to the White House’s liking,” said Himes. “Since Monday, I’m sorry to say, the chairman has ceased to be the chairman of an investigative committee and has been running interference for the Trump White House, cancelling hearings.”

Since then, Nunes and the White House have kicked up a cloud of peripheral issues that have distracted attention from Comey’s testimony and that of Michael Rogers, the director of the National Security Agency; Nunes and the Trump Administration have essentially shut down the investigation. Last night, Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, called for Nunes to recuse himself from the investigation. “All of this has cast such a cloud on the public perception of his impartiality that I think it would be in his interest as well as the committee’s,” he told me.

Since last Monday’s hearing, Nunes, who was a member of the Trump transition team, has spoken repeatedly about the issue of incidental collection, the intelligence community’s term for the communications of innocent Americans that can be swept up when the N.S.A. or other agencies legally spy on a foreign target. The Russian Ambassador, a legal target of surveillance, was recorded talking to Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national-security adviser, who was a victim of incidental collection.

The White House and Nunes were clearly coördinating this strategy. A few days before the hearing, Trump seemed to offer a preview of it. In an interview on Fox News, the President said that he “will be submitting things” to Nunes’s committee “very soon,” and “perhaps speaking about this next week,” adding that “you’re going to find some very interesting items coming to the forefront over the next two weeks.”

Last Monday morning, shortly before the start of the hearing, a senior White House official told me, “You’ll see the setting of the predicate. That’s the thing to watch today.” He suggested that I read a piece in The Hill about incidental collection. The article posited that if “Trump or his advisors were speaking directly to foreign individuals who were the target of U.S. spying during the election campaign, and the intelligence agencies recorded Trump by accident, it’s plausible that those communications would have been collected and shared amongst intelligence agencies.”

The White House clearly indicated to me that it knew Nunes would highlight this issue. “It’s backdoor surveillance where it’s not just incidental, it’s systematic,” the White House official said. “Watch Nunes today.”

Sure enough, at last Monday’s hearing, Nunes asked in his opening statement, “Were the communications of officials or associates of any campaign subject to any kind of improper surveillance?” He continued, “The Intelligence Community has extremely strict procedures for handling information pertaining to any U.S. citizens who are subject even to incidental surveillance, and this committee wants to insure all surveillance activities have followed all relevant laws, rules, and regulations.” Nunes made it clear that Trump’s wiretapping claim was false, but he seemed intent on offering the President a fig leaf for the explosive claim. “It’s still possible that other surveillance activities were used against President Trump and his associates,” he insisted. The overwhelming majority of questions from Republicans at the hearing revolved around this issue.

Last Tuesday evening, Nunes went to a secure National Security Council facility on the grounds of the White House and reviewed intelligence reports, with the assistance of one or more unknown officials. (Michael Isikoff, of Yahoo News, reports that one of the officials may have been Michael Ellis, a former Nunes staffer who now works at the White House. When asked by reporters today, Nunes declined to confirm or deny the report.) The following morning, without informing any other members of the House Intelligence Committee about what he had learned, Nunes went back to the White House and briefed the President on those reports. He held press conferences, one at the Capitol and one outside the West Wing, before and after his meeting with Trump.

Last Friday, Nunes announced that he was cancelling the scheduled hearing with Yates, Brennan, and Clapper. The trio of Obama officials, who have said little in public about the Russia investigation, would have made for a riveting day of testimony. In late January, Yates informed the Trump White House that Michael Flynn, Trump’s national-security adviser at the time, misled his superiors about his contacts with Russian officials and therefore might be a target of blackmail attempts. On January 30th, she instructed Department of Justice lawyers not to defend Trump’s original travel ban, and Trump fired her. Brennan had helped to oversee the Obama Administration’s report about Russia’s interference in the Presidential campaign. As for Clapper, he contradicted Trump’s infamous false claim that Trump Tower was wiretapped by President Obama, saying, on “Meet the Press,” “For the part of the national-security apparatus that I oversaw as D.N.I., there was no such wiretap activity mounted against the President-elect at the time, or as a candidate, or against his campaign.”

This morning, the Washington Post reported that, last week, just before Nunes cancelled the hearing at which Yates was scheduled to testify, Trump Administration lawyers tried to block her appearance. “Any blocking of anyone or anything simply stokes suspicion of what the Administration might be hiding,” Himes told me in response to the Post report. Sean Spicer, Trump’s press secretary, said in a statement, “The White House has taken no action to prevent Sally Yates from testifying and the Department of Justice specifically told her that it would not stop her.” (The Post posted correspondence between Yates’s attorney and the Administration that seems to contradict Spicer’s claim.)

Nunes said that he instead wanted Comey and Rogers to return to brief the Intelligence Committee in a closed setting. But that hearing hasn’t happened, either. When members return to Washington, usually on Mondays, the committee holds a so-called “hot spots” briefing at 5 p.m. about committee business, but, according to Himes, that briefing didn’t take place yesterday.

“We’re all still mystified. We get back on Monday and no information has been shared with Democrats, Republicans, staff,” Himes said. He added that calling for Comey and Rogers to return “was a very transparent effort to prevent Brennan and Clapper and the Deputy Attorney General from testifying.” He said that, since the bombshell claims by Comey and Rogers, “everything has been about muddying the waters and stopping us from proceeding.”

Last night, Schiff, who had been cautiously optimistic about Nunes’s ability to conduct a fair investigation and more restrained in his criticism of Nunes than Himes and other Democrats, told me, “There does seem to have been a sense of urgency after the Monday hearing to do something. Whether this was the White House feeling the need to rebut what the directors had said during the open hearing, when they completely repudiated him, I don’t know.”

In a bit of political jiu-jitsu, Schiff, in addition to calling on Nunes to recuse himself from the Russia investigation, also said that Nunes could not be trusted to examine the broader issue of incidental collection. “Since he was a key part of that transition team, I don’t see how he can reasonably expect to lead an investigation into whether proper minimization procedures were being followed that might impact him personally,” Schiff told me.

Despite his many public appearances and interviews over the last week, Nunes’s spokesman told me he was unavailable for an interview. Asked about Schiff’s demands, the Nunes spokesman, Jack Langer, said, “He’s not recusing. It’s all just politics.”
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Specifically, what is the "collusion" and "how does it benefit President Trump" and "was the collusion illegal?"

When Susan Rice, President Obama and SOS Clinton lied about Benghazi there was nothing illegal about it. Immoral, distasteful, unforgivable, disrespectful, etc but not illegal.

Hillary Clinton's setting up a private email server and not complying with records retention/FOIA policies is illegal but Comey recommended that there be no recommendation of charges.

The Democrats haven't come up with any end game that justifies this noise. If something doesn't come up soon, they'll just have egg on their faces.

There's no there there.
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Old 03-28-2017, 07:04 PM   #3
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More fake news assup? funny how everything u post isn't fake news but anything else is?

go read some more libcrap from Daily kos.

well here's some news that isn't fake ...

TRUMP WON
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Watch a 0zombie live out the definition of "Sedition" and "Treason"... https://theconservativetreehouse.com...p/#more-130586


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gapRNpEjXUo
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“ It’s all just politics.”
that sums up the russian/trump bs
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You wish.

It isn't going away. No matter how long you hold your breath.
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You wish.

It isn't going away. No matter how long you hold your breath.
More like, you wish!!
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Actually, I'm hoping it does go away, after Twitler is forced out of office and the entire regime is swept out of the federal government.

We know that Pence might be worse than Twitler in many ways, but we need to get evil fuckers like Bannon and Miller away from our national life. Kushner, too.

Twitler's entire regime is a Friends and Family plan. He needs new friends.

And every day, the crisis of leadership grows.

So yeah, I hope this gets done with sooner rather than later.
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Actually, I'm hoping it does go away, after Twitler is forced out of office and the entire regime is swept out of the federal government.

We know that Pence might be worse than Twitler in many ways, but we need to get evil fuckers like Bannon and Miller away from our national life. Kushner, too.

Twitler's entire regime is a Friends and Family plan. He needs new friends.

And every day, the crisis of leadership grows.

So yeah, I hope this gets done with sooner rather than later.
While I have always given your opinions the respect and courtesy they deserve, I respectfully disagree that we have a leadership problem at present.

However, if we do and VP Pence is more radical than Mr. Trump, I think I could survive that.

I personally advocate a radical and peaceful change of government which reflects the natural order of God's creation and those he chose to lead it for him.

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Trump is getting so desperate he is going to take the art of the deal to democrats.
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Trump is getting so desperate he is going to take the art of the deal to democrats.
Pretty fucking funny, actually.

Twitler was whining like a pussy that his healthcare abomination was beaten because not one Democrat supported it.

Now he's going to go crawling on his knobby old knees to kiss the asses of the very people he's shat on for two years?

And the Democrats are supposed to welcome that?

Frankly, if Twitler is willing to throw the Freedom Caucus under the bus in order to get things done, AND acquiesces to the Democrats' policy demands, then fuck the Tea Party.

Of course, he'll be fucking himself too, but who here hasn't wanted Twitler to go fuck himself?
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I have not seen any desperation except from libtards.

The facts are that Trump and his campaign were illegally surveilled and the Obama administration was complicit in the surveillance. Of course the expansion of surveillance of the citizens under the Obama administration is perfectly ok with the libtards.

The only thing that will be impeached is Obama's legacy.
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I have not seen any desperation except from libtards.

The facts are that Trump and his campaign were illegally surveilled and the Obama administration was complicit in the surveillance. Of course the expansion of surveillance of the citizens under the Obama administration is perfectly ok with the libtards.

The only thing that will be impeached is Obama's legacy.
Amen my brother!
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Watch a 0zombie live out the definition of "Sedition" and "Treason"... https://theconservativetreehouse.com...p/#more-130586


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gapRNpEjXUo

the farkes accidental comment in the mika interview blows a hole in the the claim of no obama surveillance on trump.
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