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05-13-2013, 04:40 AM
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Panettas first response ...
In response to a question from Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-New Hampshire, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said he was aware of a cable sent in August by Ambassador Stevens that said security in Benghazi was not adequate.
"Unfortunately, there was no specific intelligence or indications of an imminent attack on that -- U.S. facilities in Benghazi," Panetta said. "And frankly without an adequate warning, there was not enough time given the speed of the attack for armed military assets to respond."
He also noted that the National Counterterrorism Center had identified some 281 threats to U.S. diplomats, diplomatic facilities, embassies, ambassadors and consulates during the six months before the attack in Benghazi.
"And to deal with that, I mean, that's not our responsibility," he said. "That's the State Department's responsibility."
Panetta said that U.S. officials learned in the months after the incident that "there were actually two short-duration attacks that occurred some six hours apart," the first on the consulate and the second on an annex two miles away.
"The bottom line is this: That we were not dealing with a prolonged or continuous assault, which could have been brought to an end by a U.S. military response, very simply, although we had forces deployed to the region," he said.
Dempsey said he could not have gotten troops on the ground within 13 to 15 hours.
Panetta was firm throughout his testimony that there were no "undue delays" in decision making and there was no denial of support from Washington or from the military combatant commanders when the attack happened.
"Quite the contrary: The safe evacuation of all U.S. government personnel from Benghazi 12 hours after the initial attack" and transfer to the Ramstein Air Base in Germany "was the result of exceptional U.S. government coordination."
He said the U.S. military response helped save lives.
anyone see the variation of Panettas response above on Feb 13th and the one he gave during the recent investigation?
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05-13-2013, 06:08 AM
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22 views and you cant decide which testimony was a lie either can you
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05-13-2013, 08:36 AM
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22 views and you cant decide which testimony was a lie either can you
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Odumbo lied, HildaBeast lied, Ambassador Rice lied, Carney lied, etc., etc. Petreaus said the "Talking Points" were worthless -- he was fired. General Ham said troops were available -- he was fired. Admiral Gauoette was fired -- what was it he said? Hicks testified that troops in Tripoli were directed to stand down -- he was demoted.
And your timeline, CBJ7, is still bogus. The timeline started with the first bombing incident several months earlier. "Didn't have time to respond," is a lame-ass response to an issue that was developing over a period of several months.
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05-13-2013, 08:40 AM
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the topic is Panetta you idiot.
go find whirlie and bug the shit out of each other,
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05-13-2013, 08:53 AM
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the topic is Panetta you idiot.
go find whirlie and bug the shit out of each other,
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Panetta probably also lied.
AMENDED: Let's change that: Panetta lied! Some of the info HildaBeast, Odumbo, and others "stylistically scrubbed" from the Talking Points memo was intelligence info documenting the increasing threat level in Libya. They had f**king time to react!!!
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...mails/2150103/
http://www.azcentral.com/news/politi...ng-points.html
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05-13-2013, 09:55 AM
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As I said on another thread, sometimes things are too big for one thread. You want to talk about what Panetta said and did back then and before the attack. We can almost forgive Obama and his people for being so stupid to ignore the problems but their actions after the attack. This gives us the most to talk about. Remember, the coverup was after the attack, the lies were after the attack, the lack of involvement was after the attack, So we can divide this topic into before the attack, during the attack, and after the attack.
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05-13-2013, 10:26 AM
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from my above post
" Panetta said that U.S. officials learned in the months after the incident that "there were actually two short-duration attacks that occurred some six hours apart," the first on the consulate and the second on an annex two miles away"
months later. seriously? This moron is an idiot. Anything he said or says should be scrubbed from the records. His testimony isn't credible. PERIOD. If he wasn't privy to the details as they happened it makes sense Obie didn't contact him after 530 or so the story goes ...
If Panetta was the Sec of Defense at the time, where in the hell was he, and what in the hell was he doing? Sitting on his ass waiting? for what ?Someone to tell his sorry ass to do his damn job? Little wonder he lost his damn job.
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05-13-2013, 11:00 AM
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The OP forgets that as Defsec Panetta has certain duties and powers. Sending military forces into another country is beyond his exalted paygrade so it is safe for him to say that he would do nothing different. Only the POTUS can authorize an incursion and that is the question; why didn't Obama send in the rescue force? Which creates new questions; did Obama know? did the state department in DC know? did the defsec know? We have some answers. Panetta knew and the state department knew. We still don't know about Obama. If he knew then why didn't he send help? Who advised him not to and who advised him to send it? Then you get into the questions if help was available and if it wasn't then why wasn't it.
So many questions leading to other questions. Why won't the White House or State Department answer? We know they didn't want the whistle blowers to talk. This is nothing less than obstruction which is impeachable under the Rodham rules.
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05-13-2013, 11:07 AM
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The OP forgets that as Defsec Panetta has certain duties and powers. Sending military forces into another country is beyond his exalted paygrade so it is safe for him to say that he would do nothing different. Only the POTUS can authorize an incursion and that is the question; why didn't Obama send in the rescue force? Which creates new questions; did Obama know? did the state department in DC know? did the defsec know? We have some answers. Panetta knew and the state department knew. We still don't know about Obama. If he knew then why didn't he send help? Who advised him not to and who advised him to send it? Then you get into the questions if help was available and if it wasn't then why wasn't it.
So many questions leading to other questions. Why won't the White House or State Department answer? We know they didn't want the whistle blowers to talk. This is nothing less than obstruction which is impeachable under the Rodham rules.
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if nothing else, .its his duty to pick up the fucking phone and say Mr President, we have a situation that needs immediate attention
Panetta is as credible as you are mop boi
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05-13-2013, 11:18 AM
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Odumbo lied, HildaBeast lied, Ambassador Rice lied, Carney lied, etc., etc. Petreaus said the "Talking Points" were worthless -- he was fired. General Ham said troops were available -- he was fired. Admiral Gauoette was fired -- what was it he said? Hicks testified that troops in Tripoli were directed to stand down -- he was demoted.
And your timeline, CBJ7, is still bogus. The timeline started with the first bombing incident several months earlier. "Didn't have time to respond," is a lame-ass response to an issue that was developing over a period of several months.
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Better stick some straws up your nose the shit you are putting out will soon engulf you. People with knowledge of where troops are stationed state the time to get troops there was 13 hrs. Unless sending a fast flyer to (snick) scare off the attackers. Your ststements are just so much hope there will be some credence in finding something to implicate Clinton or Obie.
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05-13-2013, 11:38 AM
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The map below shows a hypothetical disposition of U.S. assets perhaps during Operation Odyssey Dawn. As you can see, Signonella is centrally located in the Med. and it is home to a U.S. Naval Air Station. Yet, every one associated with this administration claims there were no air assets available south of Aviano, and the only RRF is stationed in Spain!?! Their explanations do not make sense?!?
When the F15 crashed in Libya during Operation Odyssey Dawn, an RRF force was approved, notified, deployed, and the pilot was recovered in about three hours. Read the full story at:
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/arti...escue-released
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Better stick some straws up your nose the shit you are putting out will soon engulf you. People with knowledge of where troops are stationed state the time to get troops there was 13 hrs. Unless sending a fast flyer to (snick) scare off the attackers. Your ststements are just so much hope there will be some credence in finding something to implicate Clinton or Obie.
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HildaBeast knew all of that when she sent Ambassador Stevens to Benghazi without security, Ekim the Inbred, but the greedy ignorant bitch did it anyway.
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05-13-2013, 01:05 PM
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05-13-2013, 01:10 PM
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Whinaway and Ida Bell figuring out their map..
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05-13-2013, 01:33 PM
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Yeah, CBJ7, it appears HildaBeast and Odumbo were obviously not analyzing the situation with all of the substantive information they had at their disposal. HildaBeast needed to meet her girlfriend for a night of dancing at a nightclub and Odumbo was worried about that fund raiser in Las Vegas.
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It's a shame Hee-Haw was cancelled, Ekim the Inbred. You missed your calling.
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05-13-2013, 02:00 PM
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General Ham said troops were available -- he was fired.
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http://www.realcleardefense.com/arti...es_106524.html
"Officials: General Fired Over Alcohol, Sex Charges By Lolita Baldor
WASHINGTON (AP) -- An Army major general with U.S. Africa Command has been relieved of his post in connection with alcohol and sexual misconduct charges, defense officials said Thursday.
Officials said Maj. Gen. Ralph Baker, commander of the Combined Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa, was fired from his command last Thursday and he was fined a portion of his pay by Gen. Carter Ham, head of U.S. Africa Command, after an administrative hearing and review. The officials said Ham lost confidence in Baker's ability to command."
Wow, they really must be incompetent if General Ham was fired in 2012 and he was still commanding in April, 2013! That happened to be his last day in the command and he couldn't have possibly "retired" since he had only served 39 years in the U.S. Army.
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The timeline started with the first bombing incident several months earlier. "Didn't have time to respond," is a lame-ass response to an issue that was developing over a period of several months.
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Hindsight is 20/20, but Obama and Clinton must be incompetent if they didn't use their crystal balls (and teleporters to send troops instantly to Benghazi) to "know" that this was the important one to watch (after all IBH knows it now - how hard could it be?) out of almost 300 potentially serious security issues identified by the National Counterterrorism Center in the six months prior.
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