Cell phones

[Wise guy]

My last encounter got me thinking more. With all the cell phones that we all have, I have concern that maybe pics are sometimes secretly taken and kept by providers as insurance or blackmail. I feel more at risk because I don't have established ECCIE providers in my area. I have to pick from BP providers generally. And, unfortunately, whenever an ECCIE provider travels thru, I have been unable to free my time for her. Actually, I would be pissed, but not surprised if my pic is on a providers phone now. Just saying.

[Cassie107]

Why would your picture be on a provider phone unless you send it to her. I don't understand the sending pics ordeal. If you are willing to give screening information there is no reason for a pic to be sent. Are these ladies just asking for selfies as a way of screening? Smh.

[gentlemantoo]

I have been asked for a selfie and did not see her. But I think OP is concerned about a provider sneaking a pic without his knowledge. Then using said pic for blackmail purposes.

Not a concern for me but I am single.

[Cassie107]

Well if she is a provider worth a grain of salt, her phone will be turned down and put away. That's my opinion at least. I can understand the concern I guess if ladies are paying attention to their phone more than you.

[dj8rocks]

Wiseguy, I understand your concerns. With your location and having to resort to BP, I would be more concerned with who is perhaps taking my pic before I got to the room. As stated above, a professional lady will have her phone either placed out of sight, or face down away from the two of you. I'm fortunate enough that my travels allow me to find what I need among the established ladies.

One thing you may can consider is doing outcalls. You may be out the room fee, but you will be better able to control your environment. Good luck

[A1.]

A photo of you shouldn't be on a providers phone for safety concerns. She could possibly get arrested and the law confiscates her phone, that picture of you becomes part of an investigation.
Privacy is a requirement, not a choice.

[Cravinhead69]

Just thought I would put this out there.
If you photo, phone number, text message ends up on a providers phone and even though she or anyone deletes the info, trust me, if she gets busted and they start an investigation and examines the phone, all that info can be pulled up. Phones keep what is known as a ghost image of everything every put on the phone. The police, FBI, etc. has the software to retreive those files. Nothing is ever truly deleted. The phone would have to be destroyed and disposed of in different locations.
You best bet would be to have someone else buy a burner phone for you and probably replace it often and destroying the old one.
I know my photos are on one ladies phone along with all my texts. I'm going to have to get her to delete them. She saves everyones texts. i'm single so that part is not a problem, however, I don't want to be on the local news at 10.

[AdamBomB]

Craven , whats the use to get her to delete them then ? You just said that does no good unless the phone is destroyed ? Can it not be wiped and over written with 0's or what's called a secure wipe ?

[Cravinhead69]

I know it doesn't get them off the phone completly, but at least to the casual viewer they would not be seen. From what I understand the files on phones can not be wiped or overwritten. I think they are kept in a seperate section of the memory that we can not access.
I heard about this form an expert giving a interview on a talk radio show. It's FBI and higher up LE/Gov't agencies that are able to recover this data.
So I would think if it was just a common prositution arrest, they may not dig that deep. But if it involved drugs, murder, or other more serious crime, then I would think the FBI would take the phone for deeper investigation.
I'm going to try and find more info. on it.

[gentlemantoo]

Taking a sneak pic of you, is horrible. But what if she has her SO or pimp take a pic of your license plate. She then has your address, your family info, your place of employment, everything she needs for a good blackmail! A pic of my face can be explained away, a provider harrassing my boss or showing up at my office causes even more issues.

It is always risky to see a provider. Not just due to disease but privacy and con games too.

[Wise guy]

Cassie I didn't explain myself very well. I entered a room with three ladies recently. Thinking back on it, two of them had phones in their hands. I just wonder if a pic isn't secretly taken sometimes by a non reputable provider.

[gentlemantoo]

This is a hobby inherent with risks. Risk of:
1) Arrest
2) Robbery
3) Bait and switch
4) Beaten up or abused
5) Blackmail
6) Homicide
7) Kidnapped
8) Humiliation
9) Embarrassment
10) Burglary
11) Theft
12) Stalking
13) Cyber bashing
14) STDs
15) Unwanted pregnancy

And the list goes on and on. These risks are for both male and female participants. We each attempt to reduce those risks at a level that makes us feel more comfortable. I do a quick search of the room when I enter, use bathroom to look around for another person, also I look in closet. I do this with new ladies I see, once I am regular I am more trusting, that could be a mistake though. Most of us just ignore the risks and believe it will never happen to us. One regular lady I saw is now in jail for armed robbery. She called clients for a special and when they arrived pulled a gun on them. I never see a lady that calls me, it is a set up for the cops or for the scenario I just described. Just remember, you are not a stud to her, she does not like you, she wants your cash. Keep that in mind and you will stay alert. Let your guard down and it could be a catastrophe. Again this is not "mind blowing sex" how can it be when all these risks are at stake and the use of condom?? Remember it is just slightly better than masterbation and not that important, she is not your wife, nor does she want to be.

[naughtyangel4u]

I totally understand the need for discretion for both the client and provider alike. I have two phones, my RL phone and my burner phone, of course all hobby related correspondence is handled on my burner phone. Anyway, when I meet a gentleman, both phones are either placed in my purse or face down on a dresser, chair, etc. I've never even thought of taking pictures of the gentleman, his license plate, or whatever else that could be potentially used for blackmail. To violate someone's trust like that is simply not cool with me. Now, when I do go on outcalls to meet a new client, I always let a trusted friend know where I'm going. It's to protect me if something goes wrong. With that being said, I never share any personal info about the gentleman I'm meeting, only a location. Wiseguy, I can see where your recent encounter was a bit unnerving. If I had been in your shoes, I would have probably high tailed it out of there. Please do believe though that all providers aren't evil and vindictive, some of us actually do care about the people we meet and aren't out to get you. I know there are some bad apples out there, you just have to protect yourself, we all do.

Oh, one more thing, GMT, I've had "mind blowing sex" with some of my clients. I guess some of us just know the art of seduction and the ecstasy of connecting with someone.

[A1.]

Originally Posted by naughtyangel4u

Oh, one more thing, GMT, I've had "mind blowing sex" with some of my clients. I guess some of us just know the art of seduction and the ecstasy of connecting with someone.

I can imagine he has a difficult time relating to this confession because his jaded attitude seems to be towards allwomen as though he is the poster boy for "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned ".

[gentlemantoo]

I am glad "some" are mind blowing for you, I really am. But a man, if honest, will tell you the best sex is bareback. A condom dulls some of the sensation, which makes it less pleasurable.

How many men masterbate with a condom on? If condoms were better I would use them to even masterbate, they are not better!

So condom and the risk in a person's mind makes it less wow! All I am pointing out to remember that sex with a provider is typically not the greatest and if it is I am sorry for you, your experiences with sex and women must be very limited. So, men and women I remind you to be safe as many risks and sex is only "some" times great. So evaluate risk to pleasure.