Slightly Paranoid.... A lot of paranoid.

[PetiteLover9000]

So I've kind of been lurking around the hobby now for about 3 years never really having the balls to want to go and do it as getting caught would not only disappoint lots of family it would also ruin my future career. I know about sites such as TER, and BP... I never really got farther than that until I stumbled across this website. Well I lurked around here for a few days and finally found someone I would love to have the companionship of.
http://eccie.net/member.php?u=43782
She is well reviewed on here and very well reviewed on TER. But then I read posts about using a burner phone which I haven't and not using your personal email which I did use my personal email. I'm just in general freaked out and for some reason think this is a crazy elaborate plot to get me haha. Any advice for people who felt the same way or did the same dumb things when you started as a noobie.

[Blue_eyed_shy_guy]

Using your primary phone and primary personal email isn't wise, frankly. The email issue is easily solved, as there's many free webmail services out there. (I use Hushmail) An alternate hobby phone can also be acquired pretty easily from most cell phone stores or WalMarts. Remember to pay in cash, though. I don't recommend going to a cell phone service store (like AT&T, Verizon, etc.) as they'll ask for personally identifiable information as part of setting up an account (even prepaid!).

Have you actually had a session with a lady yet? If you haven't, you're pretty safe. If you've never had a conversation with a lady that mentioned sexual acts & money in the same discussion, you're even safer. In fact, keep that in mind when booking your first lady: don't mention anything explicitly sexual during booking. Many provider ads (especially on BP) will actually say "No explicit talk".

The first time I had a session was the first time I'd had any sexual contact with a woman for over a decade. I had the same fears you did, wondering if every person out and about was going to drop a dime on me to the police, or was a lookout for a gang that would rob me of my play money. Is that person in the car an undercover? Does that big utility van contain a SWAT team?

I got over it by Session 3,though. As I said in another reply to a newbie in my local area, "It got easier as I kept not getting arrested."

Last but not least.. screening. When you do book a session with a lady, she's going to want some way of verifying that *YOU* aren't an undercover vice cop, some psycho axe murderer rapist, someone working for an ex-husband or boyfriend, a troublemaker with a record of ripping off providers, etc. This usually means giving up some personally identifying information so that the lady can perform a background check and some research on you oriented around making sure you're a safe person to be with. An alternative to providing your information directly to a provider is to sign up for an account at one of the verification services like Preferred411 or Date-Check. As part of signing up for an account at such a service, you'd provide their staff with personally identifying information so they can do an initial screening. I like this approach better as the screening services are isolated by distance and legal jurisdiction from the personal conflicts that can occur in a local hobby scene between providers & clients.

You may be nervous.. but she is, too. Recognizing that, empathizing with that state of mind and working to help put her at ease in your company will go a long way in establishing a good reputation for yourself as a client.

[PetiteLover9000]

I haven't actually had any sessions yet. However, in my hastiness and worrisome about some of the providers I did contact before I started to look more into the hobby I did say some things I probably shouldn't have on my regular phone. They didn't respond back, obviously and then nothing came about it, but it would be on my phone records. Anyway, financially/longterm wise I can't see myself getting a P411 yet until I feel like im going to continue this. I guess I just keep seeing all the stuff about burners and not using my email and instantly freak out just because ive already used both my personal devices. Thanks for the great response though.

[tandyscone]

Originally Posted by PetiteLover9000

I can't see myself getting a P411 yet until I feel like im going to continue this.

P411 has a free 6 month trial for new clients, but you have to have references from two providers who are on P411. That won't help you on your first couple of sessions, but it can make it easier for you to get up to speed after that.

[TravelingGentleman]

Originally Posted by PetiteLover9000

I haven't actually had any sessions yet. However, in my hastiness and worrisome about some of the providers I did contact before I started to look more into the hobby I did say some things I probably shouldn't have on my regular phone. They didn't respond back, obviously and then nothing came about it, but it would be on my phone records. Anyway, financially/longterm wise I can't see myself getting a P411 yet until I feel like im going to continue this. I guess I just keep seeing all the stuff about burners and not using my email and instantly freak out just because ive already used both my personal devices. Thanks for the great response though.

Welcome to the hobby. You're talking to the paranoid of the paranoid - I'm so paranoid that I won't even tell you what I do to cover my tracks.

However, some things that may help you wet your wick in the hobby: Plausible Deniability

1. Make a new e-mail at google/hotmail/yahoo/pick one. Make it completely unrelated to anything about you, make a new password unlike any you use now.

2. Google Voice. A burner phone can cause "two phone" syndrome; google voice lets you register a phone number, and you can take calls to google voice, text to and from it via the internet without using your phone SMS, and have all the features of a phone. If you choose, or if a provider requires, you can forward that google voice number to YOUR phone number - thus never giving out your phone number. And at any time, you can stop forwarding. IE, you can head to a hobby appointment, turn on the forwarding, and receive a call for a background check.

3. P411. P411 is a "pass" to get around in the hobby. All you need to use it is two "Oks" from two providers. We'll get to that.

4. First experiences: Your first experiences (1-2) are going to have to be with newbie friendly providers. Providers advertise whether they are newbie friendly or not. You may not get to see the provider of your dreams on your first date - and trust me - I fought this one HARD - but you need to start with the newbie friendly providers. Once you have at least one newbie friendly provider who will vouch for you (safe, not a cop), you can potentially see non-newbie friendly providers - but you have to start somewhere.

5. Alibi: Book ahead of time; a week or two if you can. Clear a spot in your schedule, have an alibi; if you have to GPS to where you are going, have a plausible reason for being in that town, or that area of town.

Things beyond those 5 are touches of personal security and peace of mind. You will get frustrated; bear with it. I see very few providers - on top of being extremely selective, I require my companions to be intelligent and discreet to support the things I just discussed, and my inquiries are often met with responses that don't provide a comfort level that I'm talking to an intelligent woman on the other end, so I stop after the initial inquiry.

Stay safe. Start with a newbie friendly provider. Don't use backpage, your real name, or ANYTHING about you.

[Guest010619]

Take pepper spray in case you should be accosted by someone, that way your not beaten or robbed in an area you need to explain why you were there in the first place.

[normalguy21]

Look if your reading this a penis and vagina met at some point it happens more than you think.

If your afraid of the land of smiles stay out of the shopping isle,s

[Fancylady]

Originally Posted by PetiteLover9000

So I've kind of been lurking around the hobby now for about 3 years never really having the balls to want to go and do it as getting caught would not only disappoint lots of family it would also ruin my future career. I know about sites such as TER, and BP... I never really got farther than that until I stumbled across this website. Well I lurked around here for a few days and finally found someone I would love to have the companionship of.
http://eccie.net/member.php?u=43782
She is well reviewed on here and very well reviewed on TER. But then I read posts about using a burner phone which I haven't and not using your personal email which I did use my personal email. I'm just in general freaked out and for some reason think this is a crazy elaborate plot to get me haha. Any advice for people who felt the same way or did the same dumb things when you started as a noobie.

Escorts is well reviewed and TER well reviews..Escorts and client use burner phones. Why are you freaking out so bad.Everybody at risk in Illegal biz not just you.