Your opinion please

[TH64083]

I am seeking opinions on two points from a recent dream/nightmare I had.

1) I arrived at the hotel in my dream, and my dream girl is waiting in her car. She hasn't gotten a room yet because she needs my cash to get it. Because she is my dream girl, I fork out for the room and deposit. QUESTION..... Should I have terminated the dream and ran at this point?

2) After more hitches with the room . . . the dream can continue. About 10 minutes (maybe less) into the good part, I notice blood on the cover during a position change. Both of us are surprised, and dream girl apologizes repeatedly. We stop there because there is only one cover (she brought only one), no bbbj is offered in this dream, and there is no lube for a hj. There is also no soap or lotion in the shit hole hotel room. Figuring out what to do next, she offers a half off repeat in three days. "Sure" I say, being the nice guy that I am. Now we settle up the donation, and I suggest the half off now, and full ride in the repeat. She complains that she is out the room cost and is flat broke and wants the full amount now. I can see she is in a bad place so I help her out, and agree to her terms. Well kids, the repeat never happened and she wont answer the phone. Emailed and she said she didn't have the money to pay the phone ... she will call when the phone is back on.

Has this shit ever happened to anyone else? I knew I was a dumb ass and doubted the repeat would ever happen, but I did it anyway. I wanted to trust her I guess. Do I write a bad review and ruin any chance of ever completing the dream (although I am pretty sure it is dead anyway)?

Have any of the ladies known their period was due and said F**k it, I need the money?

Thanks .... be nice please.

[ez2plz]

Q1. I'm certain there will be quite a few that say never give the money up front, but I am somewhat of a nice guy as well, and probably would have done it if I had a good vibe from the provider. I have done it in the past, but not often, and had it work out ok.

Q2. If she is in as bad a situation as you describe, and she views you as someone willing to help her out rather than a threat, my guess is that she will eventually contact you with the hope you become a regular source of income. You may have to stretch the payback into a smaller discount on multiple visits so she is making enough each time she sees you to make it worthwhile for her. If you are still interested in getting together with her, I would keep the lines of communication open and be friendly about it. If not, there would be nothing wrong with writing a negative review after what you have been through.

[vitokc]

#1) Huh-uh, see ya sweetie, having a room is part of doing business. If you wanted outcall, you would have asked for outcall.
$2) Pass on #1, #2 never happens. Since it did, a review should be ok. Blood, inexcusable in my opinion. Everyone is entitled to some benefit of the doubt, but she should have had some idea. Advance payment is never a good idea unless you are friends, but then that may kill any friendship if it doesn't work out.

[perpetualdesign]

She just started and in three days she's gonna be 100% and ready to roll? Let's be real. Still, there is no hurry to write the review. I'd give her a few days to see if she makes it right. Being in a hurry now will only make certain it ends badly.

[topnotchmassage]

As most already know, I don't provide escort services...so I hope that no one is offended by my opinion...and Please understand it's coming mostly from a woman professional's point of view.
I'll start with #2...It would seem, based on previous posts in other threads I've read, that providers are expected to be held to higher standards, when it comes to being aware of their bodies. However, I can say honestly(and with no intention of putting anyone off)...I have been in a situation when I was hired to do spread leg modeling...and only became aware that I was 'starting' toward the end of the shoot...
It was highly embarrasing for me...and I can imagine only a woman who is VERY hard up(or BAD at business) pulling something like that on purpose. Accidents DO happen...and IMO, a girl shouldn't be completely written off for that alone.

That being said...#1, From your description of the current situation, this particular girl seems questionable/unreliable at best. If I have an appointment set, but am unable to complete it due to issues that are my responsibility...I take responsibility. I don't expect the entire payment for a half assed job done. and Actually, I usually discount the next appointment(should there be one) for the trouble(wasting the guy's time, even if unintentionally). We all love nice guys...and it is great for you to want to help a lady out...Unfortunately, though, there are SOME who would take advantage of any nice guy, given the chance...
I might suggest giving her a 'considerable' amount of time to compensate you for the premature donation.(in this case, say, perhaps a week from the meeting) and Then, BY ALL MEANS, if she hasn't made it right in some way...write that review. Girls(as well as guys) should be held to their word, and should follow through with their promises(when at all possible)...and should expect the consequences if they don't.
Sorry for the bad experience.

[vitokc]

Ok, accidents do happen. I don't know about higher standards, maybe just professional standards. Shouldn't women who make a living with their body be more aware of what is going on with their body? These aren't grade school girls adjusting to having a period. Why delay the review? The session already took place. Whatever happens in the future doesn't change what has already happened.

[topnotchmassage]

Originally Posted by vitokc

Ok, accidents do happen. I don't know about higher standards, maybe just professional standards. Shouldn't women who make a living with their body be more aware of what is going on with their body? These aren't grade school girls adjusting to having a period. Why delay the review? The session already took place. Whatever happens in the future doesn't change what has already happened.

If by even the smallest chance the girl decides to make up for the undesirable(yes, that may be putting it mildly)experience...and he decides he enjoys keeping her on his list of go tos, immediately posting a negative review could cause a negative vibe for possible future appointments.
and Being that you aren't exactly a grade school boy, one might think you may have figured out by now that the menstrual cycle is not always consistent...

[MsElena]

I'm sorry, but every woman knows when her period is due and yes, there's a thing called PMS that also gives you a heads up. In this business, as a provider it is your responsibility to keep track of your cycle and know when to work and not to work.

With that being said, of course not all women have consistent cycle's, but if you're on the pill....its pretty on the mark. If you're not on the pill, then you should know at least when your cycle should start and take it easy for the surrounding days.

Some ladies NEED to work during their cycle, but that's usually because they don't plan money wise for next week or next month, they live day to day.

As for the hotel question......well, unless you both had discussed it beforehand, then no you shouldn't have paid for the room. It is a provider's responsibility to have the hotel room unless she is offering outcall only.

For her to have one condom and no lube, no excuse for that. That's just being poorly prepared or she just doesn't care.

[Cheaper2buyit]

Since Elana spoke my words better i'll just say write a reveiw & lot us be the decider of what we want to do. Maybe you might get shirt.

[vitokc]

Originally Posted by topnotchmassage

If by even the smallest chance the girl decides to make up for the undesirable(yes, that may be putting it mildly)experience...and he decides he enjoys keeping her on his list of go tos, immediately posting a negative review could cause a negative vibe for possible future appointments.
and Being that you aren't exactly a grade school boy, one might think you may have figured out by now that the menstrual cycle is not always consistent...

Well, there are consequences for our decisions. If a review is negative, so be it. It will prevent others from having the same experience. She will have opportunities to improve an build a solid reputation if she wants to earn it as others have.
No, not a school boy, nor woman or obgyn who is qualified to offer anything other than a laymans opinion on a womans period. Ms Elena makes a good point about the pill and pms, I had similar thoughts but they don't sound credible when a guy says the same thing.

[Allie_Kat]

Oh man.
On Q1...
She should of had the room already if she was offering incall. That's a no brainer.

On Q2...
we all know when our periods are due. But, as a woman, we all know that sometimes certain activities can cause them to come early as well. It sucks but it happens. Also some have inconsistent cycles and some even spot the entire time between their periods. THAT would be quite inconvenient I would think. LOL.

I would wait to see what happens in the next week and if she hasn't kept her word by then, by all means write an honest review of what happened.

[BigMikeinKC]

My 2 cents -

Stay away from girls who are desperate for cash, or "in a bad place." A shithole hotel room is a red flag right there. Quality room = quality provider.

[topnotchmassage]

Originally Posted by vitokc

Well, there are consequences for our decisions. If a review is negative, so be it. It will prevent others from having the same experience. She will have opportunities to improve an build a solid reputation if she wants to earn it as others have.
No, not a school boy, nor woman or obgyn who is qualified to offer anything other than a laymans opinion on a womans period. Ms Elena makes a good point about the pill and pms, I had similar thoughts but they don't sound credible when a guy says the same thing.

Please don't get me wrong...I'm not an obgyn, either. Nor do I expect you to(or expect you to want to) know everything about womens' reproductive organs and cycles. but I can tell you there is a whole list of reasons that women can have 'irregular' cycles(in my case, being a strict vegetarian).
Oh, and being the woman I am...I can vouch for the fact that not ALL women take the pill...AND not ALL women get PMS. I do neither

[Modda]

Originally Posted by TH64083

Both of us are surprised

hm...I doubt on 'both' (I don't think the other party was)

Originally Posted by TH64083

Has this shit ever happened to anyone else?

Yes it happened to me once with non-local gal. I did not submit a review on her, glad I went with a quickie. Her ad said she was running specials. From that day on I decided not to see any provider who are "running specials" (unless a well known) in their ads

Originally Posted by TH64083

Have any of the ladies known their period was due and said F**k it, I need the money?

Thanks .... be nice please.

Yes...I can understand your frustration and I'm with you on this.

[CuteOldGuy]

I have no idea what this thread is about. My mind quit functioning when TopNotch said she was doing spread leg modeling.



Can I get a couple 8x10s of those?