James Webb defends the historical aspect of the Confederate battle flag

[JD Barleycorn]

Hey Timmie, Webb is a democratic presidential contender who Tampon loves (did I get that right Tampon?). I think he would make an excellent candidate but he is way too moderate for the democratic/socialist party. Shame...

http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/24/ji...#disqus_thread

Having pointed this out, I would hazard people against jumping on every flag that looks like a Confederate flag. Some are not. St. Andrew's Cross is the centerpiece of the Confederate flag:


The Army of Northern Virginia added stars (13 total) and changed the color but the flag has represented Scotland since the 15th century.
While I'm at it, there is a huge difference between the Nazi party flag (swastika) and the flag of Germany. The Confederate flag, which ever iteration you want to hate, represented a legitimate country whereas the Nazi flag represented a political party that was forces on a country.

All in all, since the Confederacy ended some 150 years ago, much ado about very little.

[gnadfly]

That's BigKotex's hand pick candidate for the 2017 Presidential race! Where is he in the polls? Oh...

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Hey Timmie, Webb is a democratic presidential contender who Tampon loves (did I get that right Tampon?). I think he would make an excellent candidate but he is way too moderate for the democratic/socialist party. Shame...

http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/24/ji...#disqus_thread

Having pointed this out, I would hazard people against jumping on every flag that looks like a Confederate flag. Some are not. St. Andrew's Cross is the centerpiece of the Confederate flag:


The Army of Northern Virginia added stars (13 total) and changed the color but the flag has represented Scotland since the 15th century.
While I'm at it, there is a huge difference between the Nazi party flag (swastika) and the flag of Germany. The Confederate flag, which ever iteration you want to hate, represented a legitimate country whereas the Nazi flag represented a political party that was forces on a country.

All in all, since the Confederacy ended some 150 years ago, much ado about very little.

The confederacy was never a country, you fucking moron. No foreign government ever recognized it. The government of the United States considered it illegitimate.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

The confederacy was never a country, you fucking moron. No foreign government ever recognized it. The government of the United States considered it illegitimate.

Except when it engaged in talks to exchange POWs, at which time the U.S. did treat with the C.S.A. as a legitimate foreign power. That fact proved to one of the primary obstacles to trying any of the Confederate leaders as "traitors" since the U.S. had, de facto, recognized them as leaders and officers of a foreign government.

[timpage]

This flag thing has you so discombobulated that you are posting up one stupid shit thing after another admiral. How long have you been up? Maybe you can claim the 30 hours with no sleep excuse again?

I don't disagree with a single thing Jim Webb has to say about this issue. How on earth do you read this story to support your side of the fence? And, what the fuck does St. Andrews have to do with it? And thanks for the comments about the Nazi's and everything else. As usual, you look like a complete fucking idiot. Keep 'em coming.

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Hey Timmie, Webb is a democratic presidential contender who Tampon loves (did I get that right Tampon?). I think he would make an excellent candidate but he is way too moderate for the democratic/socialist party. Shame...

http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/24/ji...#disqus_thread

Having pointed this out, I would hazard people against jumping on every flag that looks like a Confederate flag. Some are not. St. Andrew's Cross is the centerpiece of the Confederate flag:


The Army of Northern Virginia added stars (13 total) and changed the color but the flag has represented Scotland since the 15th century.
While I'm at it, there is a huge difference between the Nazi party flag (swastika) and the flag of Germany. The Confederate flag, which ever iteration you want to hate, represented a legitimate country whereas the Nazi flag represented a political party that was forces on a country.

All in all, since the Confederacy ended some 150 years ago, much ado about very little.

[shanm]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Except when it engaged in talks to exchange POWs, at which time the U.S. did treat with the C.S.A. as a legitimate foreign power. That fact proved to one of the primary obstacles to trying any of the Confederate leaders as "traitors" since the U.S. had, de facto, recognized them as leaders and officers of a foreign government.

What the hell is this?

No "Grubered Freelance faggot odumbo minion from Arkansas"??

Did Lustytard confuse his handles again?

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

The confederacy was never a country, you fucking moron. No foreign government ever recognized it. The government of the United States considered it illegitimate.

Ahem....it was just as much a country as the United States was in 1776. More so actually. The Confederacy had a Constitution, a government, elected officials, and everything else a country needed. I know you've swallowed the thing that helps people sleep at night but there you go. When did it require a foreign government to recognize a government as legitimate? Serious question, when did that happen? Can you cite a source?

As for the flag of the Nazi party....just trying to clear up some confused thinking in some people here who can't see the difference between a country and a political movement.

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Except when it engaged in talks to exchange POWs, at which time the U.S. did treat with the C.S.A. as a legitimate foreign power. That fact proved to one of the primary obstacles to trying any of the Confederate leaders as "traitors" since the U.S. had, de facto, recognized them as leaders and officers of a foreign government.

This is poorly worded, not to mention, incorrect. At no time did the Federal government ever recognize the Confederacy as legitimate. POW exchanges do not constitute the recognition of jack shit.

As for why no leaders were tried, you also couldn't be more wrong. Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee were indicted, but nothing became of it.

"Northerners took a pragmatic approach to the war’s end. They realized the impracticality of trying thousands of Southerners for disloyalty in states where juries were unlikely to deliver guilty verdicts, and that continued cries of treason would interfere with the more important task of nation-building."

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by shanm

What the hell is this?

No "Grubered Freelance faggot odumbo minion from Arkansas"??

Did Lustytard confuse his handles again?

I think he did. This is the first time I've ever seen him post without a gruber grubber. He must be running out of red bull.

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Ahem....it was just as much a country as the United States was in 1776. More so actually. The Confederacy had a Constitution, a government, elected officials, and everything else a country needed. I know you've swallowed the thing that helps people sleep at night but there you go. When did it require a foreign government to recognize a government as legitimate? Serious question, when did that happen? Can you cite a source?

As for the flag of the Nazi party....just trying to clear up some confused thinking in some people here who can't see the difference between a country and a political movement.

Clearing the jizz out of your throat? You make it too easy, dipshit. They were not a legally constituted government. Listen, I know you think the south will 'rise again', but it's just like you're dick; it ain't happening.

"the term "legitimacy" is often positively interpreted as the normative status conferred by a governed people upon their governors' institutions, offices, and actions, based upon the belief that their government's actions are appropriate uses of power by a legally constituted government."

[LexusLover]

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by shanm

What the hell is this?

No "Grubered Freelance faggot odumbo minion from Arkansas"??

Did Lustytard confuse his handles again?

Go screw yourself, shamman.

Originally Posted by WombRaider

This is poorly worded, not to mention, incorrect. At no time did the Federal government ever recognize the Confederacy as legitimate. POW exchanges do not constitute the recognition of jack shit.

As for why no leaders were tried, you also couldn't be more wrong. Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee were indicted, but nothing became of it.

"Northerners took a pragmatic approach to the war’s end. They realized the impracticality of trying thousands of Southerners for disloyalty in states where juries were unlikely to deliver guilty verdicts, and that continued cries of treason would interfere with the more important task of nation-building."

There's nothing "poorly worded" or "incorrect" in that post, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas; hence. It's obvious your problem lies with your limited intellect that causes you to have a poor understanding of the English language, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.

TREAT intransitive verb 1 : to discuss terms of accommodation or settlement : negotiate

"If you bring these leaders to trial, it will condemn the North, for by the Constitution, secession is not rebellion... Lincoln wanted Jefferson Davis to escape, and he was right. His [Jefferson Davis'] capture was a mistake. His trial will be a greater one. We cannot convict him of treason. Secession is settled. Let it stay settled." ― Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase, comments to former Cabinet colleagues in July, 1867.

Originally Posted by WombRaider

I think he did. This is the first time I've ever seen him post without a gruber grubber. He must be running out of red bull.

You're a very stupid jackass, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas, and Mr. Lincoln's Secretary of Treasury, Hugh McCulloch, clearly stated that the North had de facto recognized Mr. Davis' government when it engaged in the exchange of POWs, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.

[Yssup Rider]

IBMassa is walking the parapet again!

Don't you wish every day was CSA day, IBOverseer.

Then you could regale us with your tales of the grand Confederacy every day, not just four days a week, IBCorpy!

Thanks for the thread JDALky. I wonder why you haven't somehow blamed this on Obama and not the Scottish.

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

Clearing the jizz out of your throat? You make it too easy, dipshit. They were not a legally constituted government. Listen, I know you think the south will 'rise again', but it's just like you're dick; it ain't happening.

"the term "legitimacy" is often positively interpreted as the normative status conferred by a governed people upon their governors' institutions, offices, and actions, based upon the belief that their government's actions are appropriate uses of power by a legally constituted government."

Then why was the south invaded and, after the war, garrisoned like an enemy country instead of fellow states? Reconstruction is what we did to Germany and Japan following World War II....and the South after the Civil war.

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Shield my eyes! The Mexican flag is a flag of oppression for my people and I cannot bear to view it.