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Old 09-16-2020, 01:12 AM   #1
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Default Waco Kid's college football 2020 week 3

Each week upcoming games can be discussed and predictions made, name-calling after victories and general all-around college football discussion! Each week will be closed out by the next Monday and a new thread opened for the current college football schedule for each week.

Rules -

"Rules?? We don't need no stinkin’ rules!”

Actually we do.

WKWCFR rule 1

"Lies, damn lies and statistics!"

British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli

If you quote a stat, record, 3rd down conversion rate, an all-time mark or the number of jock straps an 85-man team needs ...

Post it! If you can't post a link to it, it's bogus!
What's valid in the Internet age? Just about anything! Any of the major sports publications, local newspapers, any of the big networks and official school and NCAA sites just to cover the big ones.

WKWCFR rule 2

Predictions must be posted 1 day in advance! If you haven't read the sports page and figgured out who's going to win by the day before ya never will!

Must be time stamped before Midnight the day before game-day, for any weekly games Thur-Sun on the current weekly schedule.

So there you have it, pretty basic! You can post on general topics of your favorite teams regardless of that week's opponent. Just remember WKWCFR rule 1

https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/rankings/

Week 2

Poll Date : September 13, 2020

AP Top 25

Team
PtsTrendW/LLastNext
1.Clemson
1524-1-0 CLEM 37 - WAKE 13


vs CIT
Sat, Sep 19, 3:00 PM CDT

2.Alabama
1456-0-0vs GA ST
Sat, Sep 12, 12:00 PM CDT

@ MIZZ(40)
Sat, Sep 26, 6:00 PM CDT

3.Oklahoma
1361-1-0 OU 48 - @MOST 0


vs KSU
Sat, Sep 26, 11:00 AM CDT

4.Georgia
1324-0-0vs ETSU
Sat, Sep 12, 11:00 AM CDT

@ ARK
Sat, Sep 26, 3:00 PM CDT

5.Florida
1237-0-0vs EWU
Sat, Sep 5, 11:00 AM CDT

vs S ALA
Sat, Sep 19, 11:00 AM CDT

6.LSU
1236-0-0vs UTSA
Sat, Sep 5, 12:00 PM CDT

@ RICE
Sat, Sep 19, 2:30 PM CDT

7.Notre Dame
1155-1-0 ND 27 - @DUKE 13


vs S FLA(35)
Sat, Sep 19, 1:30 PM CDT

8.Auburn
1055-0-0vs ALCN
Sat, Sep 5, 12:00 PM CDT

vs UK(23)
Sat, Sep 26, 11:00 AM CDT

9.Texas
1033-1-0 TEX 59 - @UTEP 3


@ TTU(37)
Sat, Sep 26, 2:30 PM CDT

10.Texas A&M
983-0-0vs UNT
Sat, Sep 12, 12:00 PM CDT

vs COLO
Sat, Sep 19, 12:00 PM CDT

11.Oklahoma State
927-0-0vs ORST
Thu, Sep 3, 12:00 PM CDT

vs TLSA
Sat, Sep 19, 11:00 AM CDT

12.North Carolina
892-1-0 UNC 31 - @SYR 6


vs CHAR
Sat, Sep 19, 2:30 PM CDT

13.Cincinnati
647-0-0vs WMU
Fri, Sep 11, 11:00 AM CDT

vs PEAY
Sat, Sep 19, 11:00 AM CDT

14.UCF
632-0-0vs FIU
Sat, Sep 12, 11:00 AM CDT

@ GT(28)
Sat, Sep 19, 2:30 PM CDT

15.Tennessee
528-0-0vs CHAR
Sat, Sep 5, 11:00 AM CDT

vs FUR
Sat, Sep 19, 11:00 AM CDT

16.Memphis
495-1-0 MEM 37 - @ARST 24


vs HOU(44)
Fri, Sep 18, 6:30 PM CDT

17.Miami (FL)
463-1-0 MIA 31 - @UAB 14


@ LOU(18)
Sat, Sep 19, 6:30 PM CDT

18.Louisville
387-1-0 LOU 35 - @WKU 21


vs MIA(17)
Sat, Sep 19, 6:30 PM CDT

19.Louisiana
377-1-0 ULL 31 - ISU 14


@ GA ST
Sat, Sep 19, 11:00 AM CDT

20.Virginia Tech
368-0-0 VT 30 - UK 37


vs UVA(30)
Sat, Sep 19, 6:30 PM CDT

21.BYU
357-1-0 BYU 55 - NAVY 3


@ ARMY(22)
Sat, Sep 19, 2:30 PM CDT

22.Army West Point
243-2-0 ARMY 37 - @ULM 7


vs BYU(21)
Sat, Sep 19, 2:30 PM CDT

23.Kentucky
238-0-0vs EMU
Thu, Sep 3, 11:00 AM CDT

vs KENT
Sat, Sep 19, 11:00 AM CDT

24.Appalachian State
237-1-0 APP 35 - @CHAR 20


@ MRSH(41)
Sat, Sep 19, 2:30 PM CDT

25.Pittsburgh
157-1-0 PITT 55 - @PEAY 0


vs SYR
Sat, Sep 19, 11:00 AM CDT

Others with votes :

Baylor (146)
West Virginia (81)
Georgia Tech (69)
TCU (49)
Virginia (39)
Arkansas State (33)
SMU (32)
Mississippi State (14)
Iowa State (14)
Boise State (6)
South Florida (6)
Texas Tech (5)
Ole Miss (5)
UAB (4)
Missouri (3)
Air Force (2)
Florida State (2)
Marshall (2)
Houston (1)
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9/19, 11:00 AM CDT


  • Syracuse
    Orange

    0-1

  • (25) Pittsburgh
    Panthers

    1-0

Odds: PITT-21.5
O/U50.5
TV: ACCN

WINNER: Pitt
the 'Cuse held UNC till late but fell apart. Going with Pitt at home
============================== ============================== ============

9/19, 11:00 AM CDT


  • Tulsa
    Golden Hurricane

    0-0

  • (11) Oklahoma State
    Cowboys

    0-0

Odds: OKST-22
O/U65.5
TV: ESPN

WINNER: Cowpokes
Gundy finally gets to be a MAN. be a MAN!
============================== ============================== ============

9/19, 11:00 AM CDT


  • Austin Peay
    Governors

    0-2

  • (13) Cincinnati
    Bearcats

    0-0

TV: ESP+

WINNER: Bearcats
Scrimmage
============================== ============================== ============

9/19, 11:00 AM CDT


  • (19) Louisiana
    Ragin' Cajuns

    1-0

  • Georgia State
    Panthers

    0-0

Odds: ULL-16
O/U58.5
TV: ESN2

WINNER: GA State
perfect time for Cajuns to crash and burn after upsetting overrated Iowa St.
============================== ============================== ============

9/19, 1:30 PM CDT


  • South Florida
    Bulls

    1-0

  • (7) Notre Dame
    Fighting Irish

    1-0

Odds: ND-24.5
O/U51.5

WINNER: ND
i hate ND! but not enough to pick USF over ND at their house. Touchdown Jesus!
============================== ============================== ============

9/19, 2:30 PM CDT


  • (14) UCF
    Knights

    0-0

  • Georgia Tech
    Yellow Jackets

    1-0

Odds: UCF-7
O/U60.5
TV: ABC

WINNER: UCF
Talent gives UCF the edge. GA Tech needs a perfect game or UCF to hand it to them
============================== ============================== ============

9/19, 2:30 PM CDT


  • Charlotte
    49ers

    0-1

  • (12) North Carolina
    Tar Heels

    1-0

Odds: UNC-29.5
O/U60.5
TV: CSS

WINNER: UNC
Scrimmage
============================== ============================== ============

9/19, 2:30 PM CDT


  • (24) Appalachian State
    Mountaineers

    1-0

  • Marshall
    Thundering Herd

    1-0

Odds: APP-3
O/U57
TV: CBS

WINNER: Mountaineers
a decent test for the Mountaineers. should be a good game
============================== ============================== ============

9/19, 3:00 PM CDT


  • Citadel
    Bulldogs

    0-1

  • (1) Clemson
    Tigers

    1-0

TV: ACCN

WINNER: Clemson
Scrimmage
============================== ============================== ============

9/19, 6:30 PM CDT


  • (17) Miami (FL)
    Hurricanes

    1-0

  • (18) Louisville
    Cardinals

    1-0

Odds: LOU-2.5
O/U61.5
TV: ABC

WINNER: Louisville
best game of the day. going all in with the alma mater at home. GO CARDS!!
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well! the BIG TEN has buyer's remorse and seeks a refund on the season. what a surprise ...


After Big Ten decision, who's next? Pac-12? Mountain West? MAC?

https://sports.yahoo.com/after-big-t...000009460.html


In the wake of the Big Ten’s decision to play football in the fall of 2020, the reasons behind the switch can be tied to medical advancements, a confluence of outside pressures and the complexities of university hierarchies.

But as the Big Ten’s decision unfolded this week, it revealed that peer pressure is another indelible factor that’s reshaping the way conferences, schools and athletic departments are now approaching football in 2020.

The power of a full slate of college football being played on Saturday, with kickoffs from Austin to Ames and South Bend to Boone, has elicited a new feeling around college athletics — FOMO. That is, of course, Fear Of Missing Out.

And it has taken ahold of the Pac-12, Mountain West and MAC, which are all in various levels of discussion to see if they can follow the Big Ten and revive the hopes of playing at some point in the fall of 2020.


Here’s a granular look at the three leagues and their chances of coming back.

PAC-12

Presidents call: Friday
Earliest possible start date: Oct. 31

HOW DID WE GET HERE? USC officials started pushing behind the scenes soon after commissioner Larry Scott’s daily testing announcement on Sept. 3, sources told Yahoo Sports. There are myriad complications with state and county rules just for the California schools to have full practices.


What aided the process were the public letters from USC players, which were echoed around the Pac-12, about wanting to play. Those served as a catalyst to put pressure on public health officials and garnered the attention of California Gov. Gavin Newsom.


From there, the Big Ten’s decision put a renewed focus on the Pac-12. Newsom’s misguided public statements about the four California schools’ ability to practice ended up actually helping the league, as he got a flurry of bad headlines. That put a focus on the restrictions, which helped them get altered.


On Wednesday night, officials from USC and UCLA got on a Zoom call with Los Angeles County officials. In that call, county officials made it clear that they wouldn’t prevent the schools from practicing or playing and would defer to the state guidelines. That cleared an obstacle to play that had been in place for months.


More obstacles remain, including similar clearance in Northern California. But there’s been real momentum toward playing.

ISSUES: Local rules in Santa Clara County (Stanford) and Berkeley (Cal) are hurdles. Can they be cleared the same way the L.A. ones were cleared on Wednesday?


There’s consternation over the start date, making an Oct. 24 start to match the Big Ten unlikely. Some Pac-12 schools haven’t done any consistent workouts/conditioning/lifting for months. That means the risk of injury could be higher. “If it’s not going to be COVID, our players are going to get injured another way,” one Pac-12 source said. “The best way to get ready to play football is to play football.”


A majority of the coaches on a Pac-12 working group call on Thursday afternoon, however, said they could be ready in six weeks. It will be an interesting debate to find common ground there.


How would starting around Halloween and playing seven games, plus a title game, impact the Pac-12 in the playoff discussion? What’s the latest the Pac-12 could start and be a meaningful part of the playoff discussion?


The FOMO is real, with the Pac-12 presidents the only obstacle in returning. Considering the issues in that footprint with local regulations and the wildfires, the presidents approving this isn’t a certainty. There hasn’t been near the outcry as in the Big Ten — consider how active Ohio State president Kristina Johnson was compared to USC’s Carol Folt, for example. The momentum is there, but this won’t be a case of a group of presidents just rubber stamping an issue.



End zone markers with logos of the Mountain West and of the San Diego State Aztecs used during a game in 2016. (Kent Horner/Getty Images)

MOUNTAIN WEST

Presidents call: Sept. 25
Earliest possible start date: Oct. 24

HOW DID WE GET HERE? Commissioner Craig Thompson told Yahoo Sports the league is “continuing to discuss several options,” which include playing this fall.


For the Mountain West to revive its schedule, that would mean that the presidents would likely have to schedule a new call in the near future.


Momentum toward playing is picking up around the league, where a source said league officials are “cautiously optimistic” about putting together a plan for the fall.


Some of the local ordinances that are inhibiting the Pac-12 are in play in the Mountain West. But there’s real momentum, as the Mountain West ADs were on a call on Thursday afternoon discussing details.

ISSUES: The Mountain West has yet to broker a deal for daily rapid testing. It’s uncertain if one will be necessary for them to play, but considering that’s been the key to the Big Ten and Pac-12 return, it remains an elusive and important piece.



Thompson labels the local ordinance issues in California, similar to those the Pac-12 is facing, as a “wild card” in this. There are also COVID-19 protocols in Hawaii that would need to be loosened, but those appear to be on the way, according to comments from Gov. David Ige this week.


In order to play eight games and a championship, the MWC would have to start on Oct. 24. That’s important to be part of the New Year’s Six bowl game conversation. So that means a decision is needed soon and a president call would need to be put on the books.


Detailed view of the Mid-American Conference logo on a sideline crew member vest during the game between Western Michigan and Michigan State in 2015. (Joe Robbins/Getty Images)

MAC

Presidents call: Saturday
Earliest possible start: Oct. 24

HOW DID WE GET HERE? The MAC was the first FBS conference to pull out of the college football season back on Aug. 8. Could they re-enter the party?


We should find out Saturday, as one MAC source said it’s the “million-dollar question” whether the presidents and chancellors will vote on returning. The urgency for an immediate decision is being felt. “We cannot kick the tin can down the road here,” said a MAC source. “A week from now, we can’t still be talking about this. It’s a go or we play in the spring.”


The MAC pulled out so early that it didn’t establish a testing plan. Coming to some unanimity on that will be a big part of whether the presidents choose to reboot the MAC. (No politicians appear to be clamoring to help the MAC.)


Don’t underestimate the power of the Big Ten returning in the same footprint of the MAC. “I think they could get there,” the source said of the MAC presidents. “We know a little more about the virus. The MAC being the only league to play in the spring would not be a real positive. Let’s face it.”



The coaches are eager to get back on the field, as high school football is also being played throughout the MAC’s footprint and even in some of its stadiums. Kent State coach Sean Lewis came out and challenged the MAC, saying it “must revisit the decision.”

ISSUES: Finances are always an issue with the MAC. Not being able to play the “buy” games against Power Five schools proved devastating to the athletic department budgets and prompted deep cuts of both sports and athletic department employees throughout the league. Can the league find the money to address testing concerns?
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  • Syracuse
    Orange

    0-1

  • (25) Pittsburgh
    Panthers

    1-0

Odds: PITT-21.5
O/U50.5
TV: ACCN

WINNER: Pitt
the 'Cuse held UNC till late but fell apart. Going with Pitt at home

Final


  • Syracuse
    Orange

    10

  • (21) Pittsburgh
    Panthers

    21
Pitt doesn't show much here. but they win. this time.
============================== ============================== ============

9/19, 11:00 AM CDT


  • Tulsa
    Golden Hurricane

    0-0

  • (11) Oklahoma State
    Cowboys

    0-0

Odds: OKST-22
O/U65.5
TV: ESPN

WINNER: Cowpokes
Gundy finally gets to be a MAN. be a MAN!

Final


  • Tulsa
    Golden Hurricane

    7

  • (15) Oklahoma State
    Cowboys

    16
Gundy needs some offense. this won't cut it in the Big 12.
============================== ============================== ============

9/19, 11:00 AM CDT


  • Austin Peay
    Governors

    0-2

  • (13) Cincinnati
    Bearcats

    0-0

TV: ESP+

WINNER: Bearcats
Scrimmage

Final


  • Austin Peay
    Governors

    20

  • (14) Cincinnati
    Bearcats

    55
Scrimmage
============================== ============================== ============

9/19, 11:00 AM CDT


  • (19) Louisiana
    Ragin' Cajuns

    1-0

  • Georgia State
    Panthers

    0-0

Odds: ULL-16
O/U58.5
TV: ESN2

WINNER: GA State
perfect time for Cajuns to crash and burn after upsetting overrated Iowa St.

Final OT


  • (19) Louisiana
    Ragin' Cajuns

    34

  • Georgia State
    Panthers

    31
HA!. Cajuns nearly fall in a classic trap game. they need OT to escape with a W
============================== ============================== ============

9/19, 1:30 PM CDT


  • South Florida
    Bulls

    1-0

  • (7) Notre Dame
    Fighting Irish

    1-0

Odds: ND-24.5
O/U51.5

WINNER: ND
i hate ND! but not enough to pick USF over ND at their house. Touchdown Jesus!

Final


  • South Florida
    Bulls

    0

  • (7) Notre Dame
    Fighting Irish

    52
ND wipes out USF. The Irish can be a spoiler in the ACC.
============================== ============================== ============

9/19, 2:30 PM CDT


  • (14) UCF
    Knights

    0-0

  • Georgia Tech
    Yellow Jackets

    1-0

Odds: UCF-7
O/U60.5
TV: ABC

WINNER: UCF
Talent gives UCF the edge. GA Tech needs a perfect game or UCF to hand it to them

Final


  • (13) UCF
    Knights

    49

  • Georgia Tech
    Yellow Jackets

    21
UCF wins rather easily. this game was over early.
============================== ============================== ============

9/19, 2:30 PM CDT


  • (24) Appalachian State
    Mountaineers

    1-0

  • Marshall
    Thundering Herd

    1-0

Odds: APP-3
O/U57
TV: CBS

WINNER: Mountaineers
a decent test for the Mountaineers. should be a good game

Final


  • Appalachian State
    Mountaineers

    7

  • (25) Marshall
    Thundering Herd

    17
Mountaineers played poorly. turnovers and penalties killed them.
============================== ============================== ============

9/19, 3:00 PM CDT


  • Citadel
    Bulldogs

    0-1

  • (1) Clemson
    Tigers

    1-0

TV: ACCN

WINNER: Clemson
Scrimmage

Final


  • Citadel
    Bulldogs

    0

  • (1) Clemson
    Tigers

    49
Scrimmage
============================== ============================== ============

9/19, 6:30 PM CDT


  • (17) Miami (FL)
    Hurricanes

    1-0

  • (18) Louisville
    Cardinals

    1-0

Odds: LOU-2.5
O/U61.5
TV: ABC

WINNER: Louisville
best game of the day. going all in with the alma mater at home. GO CARDS!!

Final


  • (12) Miami (FL)
    Hurricanes

    47

  • (24) Louisville
    Cardinals

    34
King was the difference for Miami. now we know why he left Houston
============================== ============================== ============
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