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Old 02-15-2023, 05:49 PM   #1
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Default 12 good things trump did and 2 bad things.

In the eyes of his supporters....

Good1 - Nationalism - supporters loved that they didn't have to be ashamed of the flag or bald eagle.
Good2 - Promoted traditional family roles.
Good3 - National Security paramount
Good4 - Didn't wobble when it came time to call a bad guy a bad guy
Good5 - Didn't care about conventions/rights of enemies.
Good6 - Made military supreme.
Bad1 - Cronyism, unqualified family as staff for example...
Good7 - Didn't let the media run him, he ran the media. He told supporters what outlets to trust and who not to.
Good8 - Protected our business interests overseas.
Good9 - Didn't let the "lefty" Labor Unions gain anything.
Good10 - Didn't waste time on Arts, intellectual or "unmarketable" skills.
Good11 - Law and Order
Good12 - Brought Religion back.
Bad2 - Undermined the election, arguable to what extent...

Discuss and there is more to this story.
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Old 02-15-2023, 05:55 PM   #2
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Youre giving the orange bastard too much credit
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Old 02-16-2023, 09:04 AM   #3
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Ok, so no one took the bait. Here is the rest of the story. Those 14 points are in no particular order, but are the 14 characteristics of fascism.

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt recently wrote an article about fascism ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20). Studying the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14 elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism.

The 14 characteristics are:

Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

Corporate Power is Protected
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .

Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
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Old 02-16-2023, 10:00 AM   #4
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In the eyes of his supporters....

Good1 - Nationalism - supporters loved that they didn't have to be ashamed of the flag or bald eagle.

Nationalism by force never good but because we want America dream

Good2 - Promoted traditional family roles.

Bull crap look at child support and single mother hood where you proof.

Good3 - National Security paramount

He was coward we got bomb daily by Iran. North Korea sent nukes.


Good4 - Didn't wobble when it came time to call a bad guy a bad guy

What you talking about

Good5 - Didn't care about conventions/rights of enemies.

What enemies ??

Good6 - Made military supreme.

Did not establish any permanent basis in Afghanistan this whole home again this is bullcrap in fact the best one you could say would be FDR


Bad1 - Cronyism, unqualified family as staff for example...

Term confusing but it refused as indrect bail out he bail out city's and states not businesses like cronyism


Good7 - Didn't let the media run him, he ran the media. He told supporters what outlets to trust and who not to.

How do you explain his lost??


Good8 - Protected our business interests overseas.


Good9 - Didn't let the "lefty" Labor Unions gain anything.

Would it call the subsidize of shipping from China when he raise postage on Americans.


Good10 - Didn't waste time on Arts, intellectual or "unmarketable" skills.

What you talking about??? His personal college


Good11 - Law and Order

Crazy cops is not law or order tyranny


Good12 - Brought Religion back.

How by force?? He not a pastor I don't see this.
Bad2 - Undermined the election, arguable to what extent...

Honestly I want more integrity that the votes are counted accurately.

Sorry you 100% wrong..
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Old 02-16-2023, 01:34 PM   #5
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We don't need to count up the pros and cons of the Trump administration;

Are you better off today than you were under President Trump?
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Old 02-16-2023, 01:37 PM   #6
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"A Fascist will come to you drapped in the Flag"
a quote that is often wrongly credited.
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"If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan, 1975

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a prophet touched by divine inspiration
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Old 02-16-2023, 11:47 PM   #9
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"If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan, 1975

Trump was liberal all his life until he figured out he could profit from the least educated and religious zealots in the country.
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"If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan, 1975

Trump was control especially of small business, hard working Americans.
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Old 02-17-2023, 09:45 AM   #11
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Good: Beat Hillary
Bad: politicized COVID. Didn’t have the communication skills to do otherwise.
Bad: Didn’t surround himself with people he would listen to.
Bad: Most divisive president in my lifetime, to the point of not being electable and losing to a mentally unstable old man.
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Old 02-17-2023, 03:16 PM   #12
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Sorta agree with Charly about beating Hillary, but in hindsight, she might have been the lesser of two evils. Trump not only politicized Covid, he politicized EVERYTHING. That's how he got elected...the Wall, China Tech, etc. and retards got triggered and bought in. Wouldn't listen to, or read anything that didn't reinforce his media presence and screwed those who tried to do their sworn duty to our country.
He lost to a mentally unstable opponent simply because most of the mentally stable constituents of our country recognized that his opponent was the lesser of the two evils.
Again, it's time for both parties to clean house and provide better slates at multiple levels. I still have hopes that Mitch will do the right thing and come clean at least on his death bed.
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