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07-27-2011, 12:41 PM
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consulting for delites
Join Date: Apr 2, 2009
Location: Dallas TX
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massachusetts facial recognition system
if instituted on the DNT and area streets, this might cause problems for some folks.
http://spectrum.ieee.org/riskfactor/...d-you-and-you-
just as long as they dont do it near any of my gvha locations, i think i'll be OK.
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07-27-2011, 02:23 PM
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Join Date: Apr 1, 2009
Location: Coventry
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"The RMV Registrar Rachel Kaprielian apparently has little sympathy for Mr. Gass, saying that protecting the public far outweighs any inconvenience Gass or anyone else might experience. "A driver’s license is not a matter of civil rights. It’s not a right. It’s a privilege,"
Registrar Kaprielian told the Globe, and that it is the individual's "burden" to clear his or her name of any mistakes made by the RMV.
So much for the US Constitution and the "innocence till proven guilty"!
When something is "granted" by the government, the government can take it away.
Be afraid. be VERY afraid.
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07-27-2011, 06:40 PM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Dec 30, 2009
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Originally Posted by LazurusLong
"The RMV Registrar Rachel Kaprielian apparently has little sympathy for Mr. Gass, saying that protecting the public far outweighs any inconvenience Gass or anyone else might experience. "A driver’s license is not a matter of civil rights. It’s not a right. It’s a privilege,"
Registrar Kaprielian told the Globe, and that it is the individual's "burden" to clear his or her name of any mistakes made by the RMV.
So much for the US Constitution and the "innocence till proven guilty"!
When something is "granted" by the government, the government can take it away.
Be afraid. be VERY afraid.
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Here's something else to make you lose sleep at night if you've been misbehaving. Facial recognition software is improving at a rapid rate and the processing power to apply it to large volumes of images is available. So it's not just pictures that will be taken in future that you need to worry about, you can bet that there will be lots of analysis of existing archived images to create 'profiles' of people. Like tineye on steroids.
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07-27-2011, 07:12 PM
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Location: Coventry
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This reminds me of the news in Tampa the last time they hosted a Super Bowl. The government ran a test of some facial recognition software and identified a large number of wanted fugitives and others who owed money to the local government and the Feds.
Time to start wearing sunglasses 24/7 when you are out and about as they mess up the software's ability to measure between the eyes which is a critical number for the software.
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07-27-2011, 11:51 PM
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Join Date: Nov 22, 2009
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LE and automotive repo agents started using that stuff a few years back to ID license plates. The camera seeks out rectangular images on the highway and on back streets and then snaps a pic of the plate. When they get a hit, the computer beeps, takes a full pic and of course records the GPS location.
It also stores the info in the event the plate is wanted at a later date.
I figured it was only a matter of time until they did this. The technology they have and are perfecting is disturbing.
Good tip Laz on the sunglasses.
Different hats might be a good idea too.
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07-28-2011, 11:48 AM
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What about contacts? Eye patch? Facial scar (fake)?
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07-28-2011, 12:02 PM
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Guess I'm gonna have to break out my hillbilly ninja disguise. They won't fuck with a hillbilly ninja.
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07-28-2011, 12:45 PM
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Lol.
I almost DON'T want to know what that looks like.
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07-28-2011, 01:23 PM
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El Mariachi
Join Date: Mar 27, 2009
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Originally Posted by Rambro Creed
I almost DON'T want to know what that looks like.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR8wH4k1zGc
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07-28-2011, 03:04 PM
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What about contacts? Eye patch? Facial scar (fake)?
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Works every time.
c.a.
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07-28-2011, 03:53 PM
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Registered Member
Join Date: Mar 9, 2011
Location: Dallas
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mrbishop
Well i guess u guys really owe mrbishop an apolgy.
We could probably really use his expertise in disguises.
That thread was some funny shit.
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07-28-2011, 04:25 PM
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Join Date: Dec 22, 2009
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I was thinking a little more subtle, as in things that would offset sensitive equipment.
You know, it doesn't take much to look like 'someone else', particularly against equipment that doesn't the have human advantage of seeing and knowing better that a cunning person used the slight of hand to alter his/her appearance. Even a different skin tone could possibly fool the scanners. Do you think, for example, that the equipment would think that a young Michael Jackson and older one was two different people?
Lol @ hillbilly ninja.
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07-28-2011, 05:12 PM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Dec 11, 2010
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The simplest solution is to take out the facial recognition cameras with your Ninji Death Stars.
Thanks for posting the link JPdM.
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07-29-2011, 04:38 PM
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Join Date: Apr 4, 2009
Location: North Texas
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LMAO!
Thanks, JPdM!
It won't be long until they will be able to reconstruct what your pretty face looks like without that ugly fake scar, Rambro.
Think about this picture taken from a little closer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJqeXkC7ypY
Easy to see how they could detect just about anything they wanted. These things were impossible 10 years ago. In maybe 2 more years, there could be consumer versions.
I wear a full Rambro Creed mask when I drive the Braillemobile. I would wear a Juan Pablo de Marco but then I'd have to wear gloves or hand make-up. I used to wear a Reagan mask but a funeral home hearse tried to pull me over.
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07-29-2011, 10:18 PM
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Join Date: Apr 1, 2009
Location: Coventry
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The main thing about data is that at a certain point, it becomes clutter.
Even intelligent software can't discern between "good" data and "bad" or "faked" or just plain "junk"..
On one of the larger IT system I worked on for a bank, I figured out that the more fucked up data an individual can toss into the mix, the less likely one will be able to find the truth.
I won't say that I have ever done this but spelling your name differently on as many application forms for ANYTHING you can find and providing enough variations of street names and combinations of numbers, including adding digits before and in the middle and at the end, the better you can muck up data.
Never forget, Garbage In, Garbage Out so the goal is to keep throwing garbage into as many computer systems as you can.
Change banks once about every 12-14 months using various spellings of your name.
With debit cards, you don't need to order checks and the vast majority of people have the same bank for years so by creating multiple threads of data, it helps if you want to avoid being tracked by those black helicopters.
Every year, when you renew your plates, pay for a new metal plate. Keep the old ones for fun. Plenty of uses for them.
Get a passport and present that instead of your driver's license. Very few clerks know what to do with a passport and unlike how they write down your license number, there isn't some magic system like publicdata.com that anyone can use to look up the number.
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