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fubar · 06-13-2009, 01:39 PM

I am relatively new to this board and just posted my first review. I "followed suite" and merely copied and pasted my review from a**d.

Based on my limited knowledge and experience with this site it appears that most of the threads and reviews are carbon copies from the other site. Cast of characters also seems to be the same with the "heavy a**d posters doing the same on here. I see a few guys on this site that I do not get along with but in my old hobby age I have learned to just ignore them and move on.
One exception that I do see is the lack of the CL and BP trolls that have apparently taken over ASPD. That is a very good thing. Also this board appears to be drama free other than one incident from a hobbyist.

ECCIE appears to me to be the future. I am beginning to wonder if I should just post reviews and mission critical info on ECCIE or continue to reproduce the information on both sites. I understand that this is a potential transition period for all of us. I am not trying to stir up shit, just trying to understand where everyone on this site is coming from.

Is there a membership committment to eventually wean from "the moma" and exist primarily on ECCIE? If so then I would probably jump on board the ship!
Give me your thoughts guys and girls.

guest040711-1 · 06-13-2009, 02:08 PM

ASPD has been on Life Support for a while, this site was formed to provide a place of useful information exchange between Escorts and Clients.

I myself have posted more ECCIE reviews than ASPD reviews as I hope the database here expands and becomes an even more valuable site.

As far as "carbon copy" goes it in the end becomes a question as to how you want to fit into this community. The reason why there is not many CL/BP reviews is the membership here was developed by recommendation of the other members.

npita · 06-13-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fubar

ECCIE appears to me to be the future. I am beginning to wonder if I should just post reviews and mission critical info on ECCIE or continue to reproduce the information on both sites. I understand that this is a potential transition period for all of us. I am not trying to stir up shit, just trying to understand where everyone on this site is coming from.

Is there a membership committment to eventually wean from "the moma" and exist primarily on ECCIE? If so then I would probably jump on board the ship!
Give me your thoughts guys and girls.

I think people post ``carbon copies'' here because they can. I'm sure it would be useful to post reviews only on ECCIE as well. I no longer participate on other boards (although at this time, I've reverted to and staying busy in the civillian world). EECIE certainly could use more QUALITY reviews, especially reviews which appear only here, to ``jump start'' things.

Horn^I^Dog · 06-13-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SP Hunter

As far as "carbon copy" goes it in the end becomes a question as to how you want to fit into this community. The reason why there is not many CL/BP reviews is the membership here was developed by recommendation of the other members.

I think part of the carbon copy factor is the dag blasted "one review every 90 days rule over there. I HATE that rule! Gents want to post a review to keep their bcd status. They want to post over here also, but it's not real easy to post two different reviews about the same session.

The lack of drama here is more refreshing than I thought it would be. I really never got into any of the shit storms over there. Mostly because I'm not important enough to the real world, let alone the hobby world, for anyone to give a rat's ass about my opinion.

The lack of CL/BP reviews is one of the best things about ECCIE. Second only to the fact one of the owners, Becky, is gorgeous and has a great butt! But seriously, I have a hard, fast rule; if a gal advertises on CL/BP I will not see her. That goes for ladies I've already seen and know are legit. So for my little section of the hobby, reviews about CL/BP gals are completely worthless.

Oh, and fubar, ManIntheBoat says hello.

HID

ControlFreak · 06-13-2009, 04:55 PM

Fubar, I believe until ECCIE's data base improves like at 6 months to 9 months, the reviews here will then be more valuable for the women and hobbyist than ASPD will be. I have recently adopted a policy to post ECCIE reviews 24 hrs in advance of ASPD. Until then, I personally believe that I will continue to post both places. The reason for reviews is to build a history of providers for hobbyist to understand better who they want to see. The women get more views currently on ASPD, now we all know there is a certain amount of tire kicking in views. Yes we are not getting all of the drama of the BP and CL people, I am not sure we should really want that drama either. Until ASPD goes down for another time for a month or more, we all need to tell people about ECCIE and build up a review history and continue to get more providers here. That will be what puts this over the hump. I believe this website is so technically advanced and easier to use, but it is like any other business, your clients need a reason to change. At this time we are not quite there yet but gaining every day. Please understand that I have no dislike for ASPD or its management and moderators. There are things out of their control thru no fault of their own. I believe another area that ECCIE could increase dramatically is outside of Texas. ASPD is basically nonexistent outside of Texas. I know when I lived in Las Vegas if you did a review it would be on page one for a month. I think that T-Bone and Becky have started something wonderful, but we all have to do our part. Any hobbyist or providers you know throughout the country, introduce them to this site. If we all do our part, we have the beginning of something great.

Nebekenezer · 06-13-2009, 05:04 PM

I am very new to all of this, and I can honestly say that this board is miles better than ASPD in function and form. The only problem this board has, IMO, is lack of traffic. I mean there are forums that only have a couple threads, and no new posts in weeks.

I think one of the ways to increase traffic here is for ladies to post links to reviews on this site instead of ASPD when the review is on both sites. I know I found out about ASPD by seeing the phrase, "Well reviewed on ASPD" on several ads.

St.Mateo · 06-13-2009, 05:55 PM

The information gathering for here will take a good long while. Look how many years it took aspd to get to the point of where it is now.
As for drama, whenever you get hundreds of people especially in a thing like this drama is inevitable. Its how you go about limiting the reprecussions of it that matter.
Some people refuse to listen some take the advice and go forward. Some dont give a shit.
Identity goes a long way to helping. This place has got to be different on some level than any other board. Even if it isn't on a grand scale, just be different.
But you know Fubar said it in a certain thread over there "Why does fucking have to be so difficult" Amen to that for sure!!!

fubar · 06-13-2009, 06:16 PM

I could see this board being primary to all of us sometime in the future and ASPD left with nothing more that BP and CL types. Evolution can be a MoFo sometimes. You either evolve or get left behind. ASPD has not evolved in the seven years that I have been a member.

The key IMHO (worth nothing on this site) is to continue to limit the membership to invite only. I believe ASPD has disintegrated due to the uncontrolled membership and access.

HDog tell MITB that I say hi back. Man we have got a crazy story or two that we could share. LOL

Introuble · 06-13-2009, 07:41 PM

I think in time this site for the true hobbyists will become the new standard. I agree that AS*D still requires the 1 review/90 day and is still a valuable source of info. I will continue doing only one review every 90 simply to keep access there as a source. I rarely post anywhere anymore but I can see in time this will become better. I think in 1-2 years when the data become sufficient it will be the only place. After all, if all I have to do is post 1 review on ASPD to have BCD then I can do that much. Besides, most providers are not around after 2 years and I think that this site will become adequate.

I do agree with the previous statement that AS*D have become a place for malcontents, CL/BP addicts, etc but also realize there is value in some of the CL/BP reviews too. I for the longest suggested a separate forum for CL/BP providers just to weed out the REAL providers from the beginners/wanna be providers.

I like this place

5150 · 06-13-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ControlFreak

I have recently adopted a policy to post ECCIE reviews 24 hrs in advance of ASPD. Until then, I personally believe that I will continue to post both places.

Thank you for sharing this. As of now I will post reviews first on ECCIE then ASPD 24 hours later if I so choose.

ControlFreak · 06-13-2009, 10:44 PM

Fubar, I think we should all rethink our comments about BP & CL and here is why I say that. On ASPD there was a thread about where have all of the CL girls gone? Dogman was really complaining about the extra work the mods are putting in and I can understand their concerns. I just made the following post to that thread:

When ASPD was down for a prolonged period of time, I looked at BP for about two weeks, checking every photo against www.tineye.com about 60% 0f the photos are exposed there. I would imagine that at least another 20% were fake or very old photos of the subject. Now I did hit a winner on BP during that period. First I thought her photos were possibly real, second she had a website that had the same photos. I thought I would take a chance. I called her she said she could be at my house in a half hour. I gave her directions and the address and she was here on time. My visit was less than outstanding, but she was a truly beautiful young lady that I thought had potential. After the festivities we talked about how she had not even asked a question about screening, I asked her if she had any idea about how she could have a nut case beat her up or even kill her. The only sites she knew of were BP and CL, I explained about the review sites and how she would get older men be able to work more normal hours without near the risk she was taking. I explained to her how she would have to change her menu to be successful. When she was leaving she asked if I would call her again, I said I would but she would have to change her menu the next time.

I gave her about 2 or 3 weeks before I called her again, I said I would like to meet her and her friend but the menu had to be as I had requested. She said they would accommodate my requests. We met a head of time for the three of us to have dinner and make sure we were on the same thought process about menus. It was a very enjoyable meeting and we left for the hotel room I had reserved. We had a wonderful time together and really became friends. I did their first reviews. The rest is history. Ashley Stone and her friend Kenzey Marie took the provider scene by storm. I was very happy and still happy for them. Even though Kenzey Marie had to stop to go take care of her ill Mother, Ashley Stone has introduced two other very well respected and reviewed providers to the boards. Ashley was visiting me a few weeks ago and said look what you created!! I said Ashley I would like to take credit but I saw a talent gave you some advice that you followed and the rest honey you did on your own. I am sure we will always be friends. I would also like to add the name of Natasha Fame, I did her first review and I found her on BP. The time I found her she had a different provider name that I will not divulge.

So please guys and ladies don’t turn your nose up in the air, there is some budding young talent that needs some advice on both BP & CL. We all started somewhere to get to where we are. Never try to think you are better than someone else, you probably are not.

McNulty · 06-14-2009, 12:33 AM

I agree with all the comments posted, I like this board much better than the other one, but the lack of traffic is the biggest problem, that can only improve as time goes by. I have tried to contribute when I have something worth adding to the discussion, but I've never really been a frequent poster; I've been on the other board since '03 and have about 160 posts.

I like the idea either only posting reviews here or at least here and then on the other board later. I generally don't do reviews, but have done a few in the past several weeks, so reason I can't just do them here and not on the other board, I pay for BCD, so that isn't a issue for me.

Hopefully with a few more good members, active owners and good mods this board will continue to grow and thrive.

guest123009 · 06-14-2009, 12:54 AM

I just hope I don't fuck up here like I seem to have done everywhere else. I am really trying to adopt a Chevalier-style of prose.

Clouddancer · 06-14-2009, 10:32 AM

I have been very pleased to see the tone this board has taken. I will admit the trolls on a**d have provided a few laughs, but I do get tired of the malicious posts that unfortunately, are all too common.
True, there is less traffic here but in time that is going to improve. There are some good people here, and the positive energy created thusfar should certainly make this site grow.
I, for one, am flattered and pleased to have received an invitation to join this site and hope that it continues to have the friendliness, warmth, and fun astmosphere that Becky, T-bone, SP and all of the members here have created.

Bubba · 06-14-2009, 11:21 AM

I think Fubar hit the nail on the head. Limiting/screening membership will help keep this board from experiencing a lot of the drama that occurs on many other boards.

As many of you will remember, the first couple of years AS*D was around there were very rarely any arguements or drama of any kind. Unfortunately as the internet grew so did the mix of the people using the site. The broader the mix, the higher the potential for problems!

Maintaining some form of membership standards is what can make the difference. Keep this as a membership by referral only site and keep the owners involved and it will have a chance to sets its own course. Open ECCIE up to the general public and have absentee owners and it will, for better or worse wind up like ASPD.