Accountability.....between hobbyist and providers

[Phrasing]

Does accountability exist on here? It's funny to chat with providers and I promise them something or they promise me something and then it completely falls through. The accountability from the providers seems like they slip through the crack and they actually lose business or drop out all together if they don't keep us and each other accountable. I promised a provider she was my new years resolution and she said awesome...never heard from her again...even though she tours west Texas weekly. Shrug. Just thoughts out loud

[busternutzs]

No Phrase there is not. There is no hobby or ECCIE police to enforce accountability.

You read about it all the time from both hobbyists and VPs. From cancellations of prebooked appointments, and last minute cancellations. NCNS, being stood up by providers or escorts providing a sub par experience and service.

As for my worst case hobby experience. I book an appointment with an "ECCIE Lady" I had previously called on a few times. We had clear understanding and agreement that a certain service would be provided. I asked her least 3 times before booking the appointment if she could provide the service I wanted and she said yes on every occasion.The escort without going into a lot of detail lets just say she was not prepared for my visit and the service agreed to was not provided. She offered no explanation or apology.

I think since there is no accountability the only recourse is to spread the word, write a bad review with a NO recomemendation and stop seeing her all together.

[john_deere]

i'm continually amazed at how dumb some of these girls seem to be and i wonder how they make any money at all. take a recent ad for example…the title is "here I am!!" and there is a lengthy dissertation on how this girl accepts only exclusive and discerning gentleman as clientele, which makes her seem intelligent and discerning herself. yet, she never says what town she's in. lol!

another girl i know was recently telling me about driving from midland to el paso and then back to amarillo. I was like…wtf?? she said she had made her plans before she looked at a map…

on the other hand, there are plenty of assholes who believe that just because they are laying the money down that they can act however the fuck they want to. they treat girls as nothing more than a place to deposit a load, and then wonder why they get shit service. frankly, it's hard to understand how these girls can put up with us at all.

it's pure free-market capitalism and the 80/20 rule hard at work.

[busternutzs]

Originally Posted by john_deere

on the other hand, there are plenty of assholes who believe that just because they are laying the money down that they can act however the fuck they want to. they treat girls as nothing more than a place to deposit a load, and then wonder why they get shit service. frankly, it's hard to understand how these girls can put up with us at all..

I thought that was the purpose of asking for references. To weed out assholes, guys that behave badly, guys that treat the ladies poorly, guys with bad hygiene, guys that are rude in general.

[john_deere]

it's a great theory, but that system rarely if ever works as intended. the reasons have been discussed on here ad nausea, but essentially… if a hooker won't answer your phone calls– which actually mean potential revenue – what makes you think she's going to take the time to answer the phone just to help another hooker make revenue?

[Phrasing]

good stuff here

[westtexasbrowser]

I don't like to generalize or stereotype, but here I go...... The vast majority of providers that I have met do not exhibit great skills when it comes to organization, advance planning, effective communication, follow-through, extra effort, etc. The skills necessary for running and growing one's own business are lacking by most. Perhaps this is why they hobby for money instead of climbing the corporate ladder somewhere.
Now, as always there are a few VERY NOTABLE exceptions to this generalization. And those ladies that do posess these skills do very well at their business. And quite honestly, it is also evident in their "performance" as well. A few names that come to mind are: CandiStaxx, SoSweetMJ, and NewKitten (Charlie). Those ladies could teach a class to the other 95% of girls that just don't get it.

[WW1flyingAce]

Browser, I'd like to add a name to your list for those who hobby in Abilene: Cason25. Great business sense and yes, incredible provider.

[john_deere]

it's not generalizing when it's mostly true.

[Kawalski]

How many business owners on here still conduct business on a gentleman’s agreement? Hobbyist - Provider encounters operate solely on this type of agreement. A lot can be promised but as soon as donations change hands, the rest is at the discretion of the provider. From my experiences, after a couple of NCNS from some VP providers or no response after sending references or phone silence after I arrive at the location or agreeing to activities and then switch up during session, I have learned to start out every session requests with low expectations. When I contact a provider, I don’t expect her to respond. If she does, great; if not, onto the next. When agreed upon services are switched up and not delivered, I cut my loss and walk out the door. I avoid the trouble of further requesting of services that she is not willing to perform even though we had agreed to it. No matter how good she might be reviewed, it is an unknown and a clean slate experience for me from initiating contact to session complete.


JD, I really don’t see a lot of complaints about these “assholes” you mention on the Eccie West Tex forum, not to say there are none. Some of the providers that I have had the chance to talk with always, 99.9%, complain about BP clients. If a VP decides to treat her Eccie clients like she would a BP client, then that goes to tell about her business model, if any. Remember, we can present all the dude logic all we want but it all comes down to her perception

[john_deere]

i agree, man. 80% of eccie guys are probably just fine. it's the other 20% that cause 80% of the problems.

[Cash69]

Accountability goes both ways. You should not expect anymore than Is offered.

[Xur]

That's why i stick to the Girls of the Nine, The nine never cease to amaze me.

[Phrasing]

Originally Posted by Xur

That's why i stick to the Girls of the Nine, The nine never cease to amaze me.

?? Ok, I'll bite...girls of the nine?

[CryptKicker]

Originally Posted by Phrasing

?? Ok, I'll bite...girls of the nine?

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