The Conduct of Some Trump Supporters

[HDGristle]

https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/d...-b1179785.html

Interesting. Let's discuss

[Devo]

Nothing to discuss.

Freedom of speech.

[HDGristle]

Freedom of speech is always worth discussing. Thank you for sharing

[onawbtngr546]

Originally Posted by Devo

Nothing to discuss.

Freedom of speech.

Tell us you didn't read the article without telling us you didn't read the article rofl


But yeah, to get things back on topic... It is amazing how over the past 8 years all the crazies have boiled up to the surface. They don't even try to hide it now.



Everyone here has that one crazy friend or cousin. They have it in them to end up in jail, on the news, or on a milk carton, if they haven't already. They are kept in line (or not) by their reasonable support group of friends or family.

But what's happened now is, the crazy behavior is getting put online and being reinforced. 15 years ago you didn't have politicians insulting others and lying left and right. One controversy and your career is ruined. But now all the insanity is just being enforced by the people on the TV and it is a vicious cycle that feeds in to itself


Granted, there is only one excuse for someone acting like a moron, regardless of if they support the left or right. They are a moron. That's it. If you send bomb threats to a restaurant, you're an asshole. If you wear pornographic shirts in a family setting, you're a fucking asshole. If you try to intimate people for a political reason, you're a fucking asshole.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

15 years ago you didn't have politicians insulting others and lying left and right.

I'm pretty sure that's not true

[The_Waco_Kid]

classic example of political persecution!

discussion over!

"great source" too .. some leftist UK based rag The Standard

one wonders what they have to say about the UK's own political persecutions?

your source is biased. like this thread.


bahahahaa

[bambino]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Freedom of speech is always worth discussing. Thank you for sharing

Oh, just like Primantis!!!!

[The_Waco_Kid]

Quote:
Originally Posted by onawbtngr546
15 years ago you didn't have politicians insulting others and lying left and right.

Originally Posted by HDGristle

I'm pretty sure that's not true

for once we agree completely. this kind of contentious political rhetoric has gone on for centuries in the US. and goes back thousands of years overall.


in the early 1800's several political contests for US president made accusations so vile they can't even be mentioned here .. an adult ho board. yeah that .. bad.

HDG and me are right on this one.


nothing new about it. and both sides are as guilty as Hell of it.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

classic example of political persecution!

discussion over!

"great source" too .. some leftist UK based rag The Standard

one wonders what they have to say about the UK's own political persecutions?

your source is biased. like this thread.


bahahahaa

Strawman and whattaboutisms. Attack the argument, not the source or the leaning.

It's not focused on all MAGAS, just some

[Devo]

Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

Tell us you didn't read the article without telling us you didn't read the article rofl


But yeah, to get things back on topic... It is amazing how over the past 8 years all the crazies have boiled up to the surface. They don't even try to hide it now.



Everyone here has that one crazy friend or cousin. They have it in them to end up in jail, on the news, or on a milk carton, if they haven't already. They are kept in line (or not) by their reasonable support group of friends or family.

But what's happened now is, the crazy behavior is getting put online and being reinforced. 15 years ago you didn't have politicians insulting others and lying left and right. One controversy and your career is ruined. But now all the insanity is just being enforced by the people on the TV and it is a vicious cycle that feeds in to itself


Granted, there is only one excuse for someone acting like a moron, regardless of if they support the left or right. They are a moron. That's it. If you send bomb threats to a restaurant, you're an asshole. If you wear pornographic shirts in a family setting, you're a fucking asshole. If you try to intimate people for a political reason, you're a fucking asshole.

WRONG!

Again.

The article was typical liberal trash, coming from a country that is jailing people for online posts that they see as criminal.

When I say Freedom of Speech is absolute I mean that, and most importantly is political free Speech.

Once you begin to censor, in this case the actions of one side, but not the other, it turns into a weapon, which is already the case in this country.

For example, you take Mike Tomlin to task for another shitty game, and you are called a racist, that action has gotten me points here, I'm sure because someone here complained, that shows that identity politics exist everywhere.

Or call the last shooter who was trans mentally ill, oh no you don't, verboten.


It's bad enough we are forced to accept completely assanine behavior on one side, but to go down the road of criminalizing the other side for saying what they believe?

Put on sunglasses in North Korea or criticize it's leader, both carry the same penalty, death.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Strawman and whattaboutisms. Attack the argument, not the source or the leaning.

It's not focused on all MAGAS, just some

what part of political persecution wasn't clear to you?

and all it takes is one example to put ALL Trump supporters at risk of this clear bias


and we have our one example .. don't we?


there are many more.

[HDGristle]

Share them instead of just complaining about political persecution

We have a lot of material to mine

https://time.com/6986368/poll-biden-...ent-realities/

https://newlinesmag.com/argument/the...y-of-trumpism/

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/business-...tarian-appeal/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-consequences/

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by Devo

Nothing to discuss.

Freedom of speech.

Dude who got kicked off the plane (from the article you obviously didn't read) was asked to turn his shirt inside out. He did so temporarily, only so he could board the plane, then he stopped complying and turned the shirt back around. At that point, it's no longer a free speech issue. At that point, dude's an asshole who deserves to get kicked off the plane.

Dude got kicked off the plane after failing to follow the rules. Freedom of speech has nothing to do with it. He got what he deserved.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

what part of political persecution wasn't clear to you?

and all it takes is one example to put ALL Trump supporters at risk of this clear bias


and we have our one example .. don't we?


there are many more.

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Share them instead of just complaining about political persecution

We have a lot of material to mine

https://time.com/6986368/poll-biden-...ent-realities/

https://newlinesmag.com/argument/the...y-of-trumpism/

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/business-...tarian-appeal/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-consequences/

thanks for proving my point. you did mean to do that .. right??

[HDGristle]

Show the impact of the bias. Right now, sounds like boo boo hurt feels over words.

And kinda woke