Where have all the flowers gone?

[luv2luv]

Replace "flowers" with "fantastic providers" and you've got a new song.
I think 90% of advertisers are fake these days. They all want to "confirm" the appointment ... just send money.
Of the rest, 9% of the remaining 10% will agree to anything to get you in the door, then either renegotiate or simply do nothing. Had one two days ago that muttered under her breath, as she was yanking down my pants, "Need to get this over with".
I'm so horny right now!! It's more now about the service than the looks. I want a lover. I wanna Deep Kisser. I want someone who gets passionate and loves to fuck as much as I do.
Is there actually anyone that does that anymore?
And then there's ... is there anyone in the mid-cities that does all that?
And then, is there anyone who doesn't want to increase the national debt to do all that?
Sigh!!!!

[mtabsw]

This is not an answer to your question, but a useful exercise to perhaps help your perspective.

1. Go to your local Wal-Mart
2. Take a good look at THE FIRST female you see
3. Close your eyes
4. Imagine fucking her so well, making her cum explosively, that afterwards she thinks you're her dream lover, and that you will be ready anytime, anywhere, to do it again. Each time being as good or better than the last. You must also convince her she is your dream lover.
5. Open your eyes

Now look around and imagine that any woman there, regardless of age, weight, appearance expects you do that for them, and you have to do it 5 or 6 times a day.

[luv2luv]

Oh, that's good. You're right. I never thought of it just that way. Good reflection, dude.

[Chung Tran]

Where have all the Flowers gone?

Yeah, you can replace ''Flowers'' with ''great providers'', but the song remains the same.

''Gone to graveyards, everyone. When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn?''

[Dildo_Daggins]

The fact is, I can jerk off better than a lot of these girls can fuck. So take a lesson from Little Finger in GoT...its an acting job with each client. And you know, if that's your job - then that's the job you chose. Its not like the provider is a sex slave being forced into the trade, its a position that she has chosen. So if giving quality service for a client's hard earned money is beyond what a provider is capable of, then maybe she needs to be one on those people working at Walmart, and lets have her close her eyes and imagine that.

[Anonymous01]

Not all that long ago, I could list 10-15 providers that meet your needs (which also happen to be mine). Today I can list 2, and both of them are a long plane trip from Tejas.

[BLM69]

Originally Posted by Anonymous01

Not all that long ago, I could list 10-15 providers that meet your needs (which also happen to be mine). Today I can list 2, and both of them are a long plane trip from Tejas.

That's some reality on what's available these days, other's are in fantasy looking for good drinks in Dallas LMAO 😅 thinking they're doing something, instead of being recommended by other tricks on these type of threads

[menace2myself]

You can replace “Tet Offensive” with “If 6 was 9”.

[Wile E Coyote]

I have been relegated to the fact that there are very few if any flowers left, especially here in Dallas. Instead, what we have here is mainly providers who have decided that they are not only doing guys a favor by seeing hobbyists and taking their money, but also when a hobbyist brings up a service issue, then he is the asshole and a black sheep in the community.

As far as what mtabsw says, number one, I doubt very seriously that any of these ladies are seeing five or six dudes a day unless they are pimped. Also, they know what they signed up for when taking on the provider role ( which means to provide) and accepting client's money, but a lot of these fairy guys, white knights and simps have decided to make below average service tolerable and deemed appropriate. Couple that with the shit attitudes and less desirable physical attributes of most providers in Dallas these days, many guys have gone other routes to satisfy their wants and desires.

Regardless of what anybody says or thinks, those are total 100% facts!

[ahab11]

There are several sexy providers on the scene at the moment under 30 and under 300hr and not Studio types.

Guys are probably like me and have gone UTR with who we are seeing thanks to a Super Douche who is trolling the boards.

You say something about the girl good, bad, whatever and this Super Douche contacts them talking trash about you and saying you are making negative comments about them.

I am surprised more guys are not going UTR as I know TxBoi has been bit by Super Douche as well.

The last review I left was on Maya and yep she got a text from Super Douche saying I talked crap about her but the review was a Yes and I said I looked forward to seeing her again.

Beware if you find a looker who you want to keep seeing better keep it off the boards. Girls say it's no big deal but yeah it gets inside their head when they start getting messages about a guy they saw.

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by ahab11

There are several sexy providers on the scene at the moment under 30 and under 300hr and not Studio types.

Guys are probably like me and have gone UTR with who we are seeing thanks to a Super Douche who is trolling the boards.

You say something about the girl good, bad, whatever and this Super Douche contacts them talking trash about you and saying you are making negative comments about them.

I am surprised more guys are not going UTR as I know TxBoi has been bit by Super Douche as well.

The last review I left was on Maya and yep she got a text from Super Douche saying I talked crap about her but the review was a Yes and I said I looked forward to seeing her again.

Beware if you find a looker who you want to keep seeing better keep it off the boards. Girls say it's no big deal but yeah it gets inside their head when they start getting messages about a guy they saw.

I agree. However, and the grand scheme of things, those ladies are very rare comparatively speaking, hence the reason for this thread.

I currently have four ladies that I see regularly for sessions. But I am not going to review any except for one who always wants reviews, as she says that she gets a lot of business after I review her.

Many ladies that I have seen for P4P sessions have sent me the anonymous messages that they received after I review them for the first time. The reason why I review the one provider is because she is not phased by the messages. You cannot say that about the gullible ladies, which are the vast majority of the providers, something the haters count on.

If you have haters, and I have many, then that's whenever you know that you have made it and this hobby world.

[Sir Lancehernot]

Over the years, I've wondered, occasionally posting such thoughts here, why more women didn't sell what they were anywhere from occasionally to frequently giving away for free. Most of the risks -- legal, physical, financial, exposure -- can be mitigated, and escorting certainly offers a higher degree of plausible deniability than dancing.


I've decided it's some combination of not wanting to expend the effort to mitigate some or all of these risks (with exposure probably the biggest -- to the extent that promiscuity has become more acceptable over the years, it's still considered more acceptable to give it away than it is to sell it); and in some cases, women just don't want to think of themselves as "whores."


I think the sugar daddy scene, and, especially, the websites that facilitate it, changed that at least a little bit, legitimizing pay for play to some extent. Of course, you have some providers who have migrated to the sugar scene, and have an active presence in both.


But sugaring has enabled women who otherwise wouldn't have entered the pay-for-play arena to do so, because there is, I think, less stigma attached;. there's an opportunity to vet a client/daddy before going BCD to mitigate the risk of him being an axe murder; there's less legal risk; and they can be more selective about the quantity and quality of the buyers. If a guy doesn't call a second time, she moves on to the next one; if he doesn't call, then it;'s the next one, and so on -- but she doesn't think of herself as a whore, she tells herself she's still seeking an arrangement and just hasn't found one yet.


I think that's where some of the woman who would be considered flowers today are.


Just MHO, and worth what you paid for it.

[Ralph Fults]

I agree Lance, a lot of the flowers are becoming sugar babies. It’s becoming more socially acceptable and even popular on Insta and TikTok.

[TinMan]

Lance, aren’t the ones who are giving it away for free doing so with partners they get to meet prior to making that commitment? That’s probably the biggest reason they don’t get into P4P, IMO.

I do agree, though, that the sugar industry has changed the dynamic quite a bit. Concubines have been a part of society throughout history, but the internet has brought it to the masses.

[Sir Lancehernot]

Originally Posted by TinMan

Lance, aren’t the ones who are giving it away for free doing so with partners they get to meet prior to making that commitment? That’s probably the biggest reason they don’t get into P4P, IMO.

I suppose I wasn't clear enough. Lets say Heidi Ho wants a little more cash than she makes at the coffee shop. Among the options she might entertain is escorting. She dispenses with this common perception of P4P because she thinks the idea of spontaneously hooking up with someone she just met and immediately consummating a physical relationship is too risky. But I think the perception if sugaring is different, and she might entertain such a notion if there was a slight delay between meeting and BCD, during which she could make a somewhat informed decision about whether to proceed. That's all I was trying to say.